(01-28-2017, 06:55 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: Giving love doesn't mean others won't ruin your life on a whim.

Quote:1. What constitutes Catalyst?  What derives it's function and being?  What gives it substance or the ability to create to an entity polarization?

Quote:2. Does Polarity adhere wholly to a duality system or can it be threefold, fourfold, and further faceted into differing points of the same 'polygonal-graph' spectrum (3+ directions) (versus a line-graph spectrum ((2 directions)), if you guys understand what I mean?)

Quote:3. Responding to Catalyst creates the potential for Polarization to occur, what does this mean?

Quote:4. In a society of backwards things, do things considered 'wrong' by society turn out actually to be proper?  I.e things like homosexuality, transgender people, substance usage like thc or...myocilin (stuff in mushrooms), or other hallucinogens (DMT, LSD?)

Ra Wrote:It is also to be noted that an adept is one which has freed itself more and more from the constraints of the thoughts, opinions, and bonds of other-selves. Whether this is done for service to others or service to self, it is a necessary part of the awakening of the adept. This freedom is seen by those not free as what you would call evil or black. The magic is recognized; the nature is often not.

Q\uo Wrote:It is typical of the training that the culture offers to the individual that the spontaneous and rhythmic harmonization of the self with all will be systematically and thoroughly interrupted, for it is not useful for society to have a tribe of completely mindful and aware beings. Rather, what is the easiest block of entities to govern turns out actually to be those who have turned their concept of themselves over to the orthodox ways of thinking and then have begun to measure themselves by those yardsticks that the culture and the society puts forth. As each becomes a so-called adult, each more or less finds itself necessarily moving into those areas of work and employment and the chores of living that constitute keeping body and soul together for those within third density.

In the culture in which you now enjoy living the hope is not that the entities will be mindful, but, rather, that they will be mind-persuaded in the ways in which the culture wishes its citizens to think, behave and move. As far as an unawakened spirit can tell, what is required of it is that it get a job, pay for the privilege of having space in which to live and food to eat. This economic concern, namely, that each citizen will take care of itself and its dependents, ranks far above any consideration in terms of public policy of the spiritual evolution of its citizens. Naturally, this not being the obvious concern of governmental or cultural entities this has never, for the most part, been questioned. No one expects the government or the culture to require mindfulness of its citizens.

However, we would say more than this. In order to become a citizen of eternity it seems necessary to become one that is athwart society. You may think of it in terms of being radical or in terms of being other than the mind control of the culture. This may seem an extreme statement but there is a seduction of principles and values that goes on within the daily intellectual life that the culture offers through its newspapers and various other information sources which offers to its citizens much information

Quote:5. Do thoughts count as Catalyst and are they capable of Polarization by themselves?

Quote:6. Do the energies of Anger and its associated variations of extremities belong to the Red-ray or the Orange-Ray chakra?

Quote:7. Is polarity measured like a thermometer that slowly lowers and raises in small (or large) increments?

Quote:I explored for a while negative polarity and found it to be in many ways on the shallow end of it's spectrum exactly like positive polarity, leaving me to wonder if polarity is something worth getting hung up over on since as it's said, there is no right or wrong according to the metaphysical reality.  (A general statement that I'm sure has some exceptions to it.)

Quote:8. Is the negative and positive polarities worth exploring into the extremes?  I know the answer depends on the individual, I'm asking in general for the vast majority of the population.

Quote:9. Can the negative be used for positive?  Does this make it negative or positive polarization?

Quote:10. If selflessness is positive polarity and selfishness is negative polarity, what does being selfishly selfish and selflessly selfish cause polarization wise?

Quote:Assuming for a second that the following statement sums up the purpose of catalyst, 'Suffering to Learn a Lesson', does this mean:
11. Can Earth's Reality, created to help evolution, be summed up as being a 'selfish usage of creation by creation for creation disregarding creation'?

Quote:Now, not assuming catalyst isn't summed up that way as 'Suffering to Learn a Lesson', does this mean:
12. Can Earth's Reality, created to help evolution, be summed up as being a 'selfish usage of creation by creation for creation'?

Quote:13. Does Crystallization mean the area in the physical body where the energy center is found 'solidify' or is this happening upon the metaphysical planes attached to the physical plane, but not occurring in a way physically measureable upon the physical plane?

Quote:14. Is the Red-ray chakra fixed like the Violet-ray chakra?  What does this mean?

Quote:15. What are some of the functions of the Violet-ray chakra?  Is it the totality as-in the Mind/Body/Spirit Complex Totality?

Quote:16. What are some ideas of how to handle balancing chakras when one suffers from the catalyst of mental illnesses?

Quote:17. Is the alarm clock effect of the 11:11 phenomenon (including other numbers like 2:22, 3:33, 4:44 and such) meant as a spiritual alarm clock, or is it an alarm clock for the collective unconscious?

Quote:18. What are the chances that Cosmic Universal Unconditional Love can be mistaken by Humanity as indiscriminate, indifferent, or even apathetic?

Quote:19. If someone commits suicide, and does not wish to reincarnate again, does Free Will dictate the choice made, or is the life left on mandatory to be completed?  Does refusing to complete this reincarnation cause stagnation? (Asking because some NDE's seem to contradict the 'mandatory' and seems to point more towards 'choice')

Quote:20. Is kundalini the 'divine' purpose of humanity?  (As in, is raising the serpent to the green ray the entire point of kundalini's being at all?)

Quote:At no point is a clear and discernible 'point for being' given in the Ra Material, the closest idea given to this is that the point of being is to discover more about the infinite nature of being.  This is in essence a fruitless if not empty endeavor, as infinity cannot be fully known, otherwise it would cease to be infinite (never-ending/beginning).  This potentially nullifies the point of self-exploration, turning it potentially into an eternity long task with no completion possible. Because of this:
21. Is the Law of One a form of Nihilism?

Quote:22. What would the proper term to describe this belief system be?  Pantheistic??

Quote:Truly though my biggest questions are these:
23. What is Catalyst, How does it Work, and Why does it work that way?
24. What is Polarity, How does it Work, and Why does it work that way?

(01-28-2017, 12:25 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: ...

Quote:93.11 Questioner: I would like, if possible, an example of the activity we call Catalyst of the Mind in a particular individual undergoing this process. Could Ra give an example of that?

Ra: I am Ra. All that assaults your senses is catalyst. We, in speaking to this support group through this instrument, offer catalyst. The configurations of each in the group of body offer catalyst through comfort/discomfort. In fact all that is unprocessed that has come before the notice of a mind/body/spirit complex is catalyst.

Quote:93.12 Questioner: Then presently we receive catalyst of the mind as we are aware of Ra’s communication and we receive catalyst of the body as our body senses all of the inputs to the body, as I understand it. But could Ra then describe catalyst of the spirit, and are we at this time receiving that catalyst also? And if not, could Ra give an example of that?

Ra: I am Ra. Catalyst being processed by the body is catalyst for the body. Catalyst being processed by the mind is catalyst for the mind. Catalyst being processed by the spirit is catalyst for the spirit. An individual mind/body/spirit complex may use any catalyst which comes before its notice, be it through the body and its senses or through mentation or through any other more highly developed source, and use this catalyst in its unique way to form an experience unique to it, with its biases.

Quote:46.16 Questioner: What is the plan for use of the catalyst of cancer?

Ra: I am Ra. The catalyst, and all catalyst, is designed to offer experience. This experience in your density may be loved and accepted or it may be controlled. These are the two paths. When neither path is chosen the catalyst fails in its design and the entity proceeds until catalyst strikes it which causes it to form a bias towards acceptance and love or separation and control. There is no lack of space/time in which this catalyst may work.

Quote:46.15 Questioner: How does cancer do this learn/teaching when the entity has no conscious idea of what is happening to him when he develops cancer?

Ra: I am Ra. In many cases catalyst is not used.

Here Don ghosts your questions that this is a very distorted planet.

66.34 Questioner: This planet, to me, seems to be what I would call a cesspool of distortions. This includes all diseases and malfunctions of the physical body in general. It would seem to me that, on the average, this planet would be very, very high on the list if we just took the overall amount of these problems. Am I, is my feeling correct in this assumption?

Ra: I am Ra. We will review previous material.

Catalyst is offered to the entity. If it is not used by the mind complex it will then filter through to the body complex and manifest as some form of physical distortion. The more efficient the use of catalyst, the less physical distortion to be found.

There are, in the case of those you call Wanderers, not only a congenital difficulty in dealing with the third-density vibratory patterns but also a recollection, however dim, that these distortions are not necessary or usual in the home vibration.

We over-generalize as always, for there are many cases of pre-incarnative decisions which result in physical or mental limitations and distortions, but we feel that you are addressing the question of widespread distortions towards misery of one form or another. Indeed, on some third-density planetary spheres catalyst has been used more efficiently. In the case of your planetary sphere there is much inefficient use of catalyst and, therefore, much physical distortion.

Quote:46.9 Questioner: Certainly.

Ra: The entity polarizing positively perceives the anger. This entity, if using this catalyst mentally, blesses and loves this anger in itself. It then intensifies this anger consciously in mind alone until the folly of this red-ray energy is perceived not as folly in itself but as energy subject to spiritual entropy due to the randomness of energy being used.

Positive orientation then provides the will and faith to continue this mentally intense experience of letting the anger be understood, accepted, and integrated with the mind/body/spirit complex. The other-self which is the object of anger is thus transformed into an object of acceptance, understanding, and accommodation, all being reintegrated using the great energy which anger began.

The negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complex will use this anger in a similarly conscious fashion, refusing to accept the undirected or random energy of anger and instead, through will and faith, funneling this energy into a practical means of venting the negative aspect of this emotion so as to obtain control over other-self, or otherwise control the situation causing anger.

Control is the key to negatively polarized use of catalyst. Acceptance is the key to positively polarized use of catalyst. Between these polarities lies the potential for this random and undirected energy creating a bodily complex analog of what you call the cancerous growth of tissue.

Quote:54.24 Questioner: The purpose then, seen from previous to incarnation, of what we call the incarnate physical state, seems to be wholly, or almost wholly, that of experiencing at that point the programmed catalyst and then evolving as a function of that catalyst. Is that correct?

Ra: I am Ra. We shall restate for clarity. The purpose of incarnative existence is evolution of mind, body, and spirit. In order to do this it is not strictly necessary to have catalyst. However, without catalyst the desire to evolve and the faith in the process do not normally manifest and thus evolution occurs not. Therefore, catalyst is programmed and the program is designed for the mind/body/spirit complex for its unique requirements. Thus it is desirable that a mind/body/spirit complex be aware of and hearken to the voice of its experiential catalyst, gleaning from it that which it incarnated to glean.

Quote:79.22 Questioner: Well, the idea then was to create some type of veil between Matrix and Potentiator. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

79.23 Questioner: This veil then occurs between what we now call the conscious and the unconscious mind. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Quote:93.20 Questioner: I was just wondering if the transparency of the garment on the third card indicates the semi-permeable nature of the veil between conscious and subconscious?
Ra: I am Ra. This is a thoughtful perception and cannot be said to be incorrect. However, the intended suggestion, in general, is an echo of our earlier suggestion that the nature of catalyst is that of the unconscious; that is, outward catalyst comes through the veil.

All that you perceive seems to be consciously perceived. This is not the correct supposition. All that you perceive is perceived as catalyst unconsciously. By the, shall we say, time that the mind begins its appreciation of catalyst, that catalyst has been filtered through the veil and in some cases much is veiled in the most apparently clear perception.

(01-28-2017, 09:24 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: Hey Jade, long time no see or talk.  It's nice to see you're still diligent in helping others.  I found your answers useful, though my own distortions had me a bit upset at areas.  I'm going to refrain from being upset, as in the past all that has done is prove to further block me.  Instead I want to re-ask some questions to get even more thoughtful answers.

Question 2 concerning the various directions of polarity.  For a while I saw polarity as threefold, left/middle/right, with the middle path being one more of balancing Wisdom and Love to most efficiently polarize, versus right being of unconditional love and left being of pure selfishness.
But in that way I thought maybe I was missing more and tried to imagine what other directions there might be.
I did this because in my mind personally, I struggle so greatly with separating left and right polarity from one another that I can't effectively tell what's what anymore.  A CEO of a major company trying to rob people of their rights could be a positive polarity act for all I know in some strange way I cannot see.  Similarly a person aiding someone who is homeless may be negative polarity, because the person did so out of a want to feel better about themselves rather than because they genuinely cared for that other person.

With these two examples I'm left beyond baffled and dumbfounded, I'm totally and completely lost in this system.  It doesn't...Make sense to me.  I don't get it at all and it's very upsetting at times for me when I want to do the 'right' thing and all that ends up happening is everything going wrong.  I recently quit a fast food job because I felt it was the right thing to do, but I didn't have it in my heart to go through the proper authorities to ensure for the safety of all other customers they too won't get sick from eating there.
Now that it's over and done with the experience has left me unable to make sense of whether or not I did do the right thing at all.  In fact, I'm pretty sure whenever I try to do the right thing, I end up doing the wrong thing, typically, with exceptions.

And all I can ever come to in my belief system is ultimately I do not understand what is right or wrong, or perhaps I understand it so well that I'm unaware of understanding it well due to the apparent opinion that there is no wrong or right, and thus nothing to be considering.  Making all of these concerns once again the catalyst of my mental illnesses...  Ugh, on the verge of tears cause it's so upsetting to me.  I want to do the right things and I don't know how.

Quote:Jade, if you will just cope with me here...Imagine a five pointed star.  On it's points at the farthest left and right are the polarities we talk about as core parts of the spectrum.  Then at the highest point is what I called the middle polarity.  Then we have the two lowest points that are in ways their own forms of polarity that I don't even know how to make an example to better describe...Is this a plausible view of polarity in your mind?  Or is it better to just apply AA's KISS acronym, and to just Keep It Simple Silly and leave it as Left/Right, even though that understanding has been greatly confusing for me?

Quote:Question 4: This answer was greatly helpful, especially regards a recent family matter that occurred over the holidays...
I want to go a bit further with this question.
These restraints of otherselves is one type of catalyst I've experienced that I'm actually coming to accept and handle better more and more often.  On the flip side of this, I've lately found the biggest restraint upon myself is my own mind.  I do meditate fairly often, but it doesn't stop the thoughts that I have, or the feelings I get even after I do the balancing techniques, and sit with the emotions I felt across the day at the end of the day.
I guess I should mention I'm HFA, high functioning autistic, with paranoia and anxiety disorders.  I can hardly pick up a phone to make a phone call, or be outside for longer than a few hours before I become emotional and want to retreat to the comfort of my home.

Do you have any helpful things to add regarding freeing myself more and more from the constraints of my own self?

I wasn't diagnosed HFA until very recently, but looking back all the way to my childhood it pretty much explained why I was always different and alone, and why my childhood best friend is someone with Aspergers.  I can't figure out if the worsening of these conditions in my early twenties forcing me to seek medical help was a result of preincarnational catalyst activating due to my failure at something, or if it's just a naturally occurring catalyst for someone who with fear sought to eliminate by ignoring mostly all catalyst to attempt to focus more on themselves to later on better meet catalyst.  I'm muddying up my question...I'm sorry, I'll move on.

Quote:Question 5:  Your answer here greatly upset me, to the point of tears, only because I literally cannot make my mind be as I want it to be by apparently my very own preincarnational design for this life.  This results in literally an endless swathe of incongruity.  I have done things so kind I had people asking me what it was that made me able to be so loving, and all I could think was, 'I didn't do anything at all, I don't even want to deal with any of this, I hate this'; but my feelings say 'it's because I love you the way I want to be loved and I feel everyone deserves that' and the result is I have no idea if those thoughts that I cannot stop or control are effectively nullifying every single thing I do.  Even catching the thoughts and changing them on the spot, in my understanding, is an infringement against the right of those thoughts to come forth and be had and to simply be.

Does that mean, because of the ways I've designed my own mind, I've set myself up on, what I want to call, a 'Very Hard' difficulty in life?

Quote:Question 7: I should probably have given some additional information to properly render my focus.  I meant to ask with regards to kundalini more so than anything, in a way similar to the rising serpent mimicking a thermometer rising slowly, is this congruent with the visualization of polarity?
I ask this because the green ray is essentially half way through the system while the indigo ray is at the extreme far end of the entities instreaming energies (their internal placement within their internal world).  Does this mean polarity can be measured like a thermometer similar to the rising and falling of kundalini?

I had a very hard time thinking of how to word this question, I will do so now by simply re-asking it.

7. Is polarity measured like a thermometer that slowly lowers and raises in small or large increments in ways similar to how kundalini's rising serpent might rise and lower as one polarizes more and more towards one end of the polarity spectrum?  I'm trying to ask if polarity's goals and the goals of raising the kundalini are the same concepts described from two different perspectives or angles?  One from the angle of the metaphysics of polarity, and another from the angle of the entity's energetic system?  Or if they are actually still different concepts.

I ask this because if I could remove the distortions of anxiety and fear at the supposed difficulty I see myself having in attaining 51% sto polarity for the ease I see myself having at handling my chakras to raise kundalini up to green ray, it'd help ease my mind a lot.

Ra Wrote:The most important concept to grasp about the energy field is that the lower or negative pole will draw the universal energy into itself from the cosmos. Therefrom it will move upward to be met and reacted to by the positive spiraling energy moving downward from within. The measure of an entity’s level of ray activity is the locus wherein the south pole outer energy has been met by the inner spiraling positive energy.

As an entity grows more polarized this locus will move upwards. This phenomenon has been called by your peoples the kundalini. However, it may better be thought of as the meeting place of cosmic and inner, shall we say, vibratory understanding. To attempt to raise the locus of this meeting without realizing the metaphysical principles of magnetism upon which this depends is to invite great imbalance.

Quote:7.1. In fact, of that, is harvest automatically 'unlocked' or achieved in the future or at the end of this incarnation if the person at any point in their life raised kundalini to green ray, or does it need to be risen to green ray at the time of the termination of this incarnation for harvest to be achieved?

Quote:Question 8: May I ask why 6D wanderers have such vastly different plans in life in attempts to reach such extreme polarities, often times at the cost of their health and life, compared to 5D or 4D wanderers?  I feel like for such a thing to occur, it'd be seen as selfish by their human identity which suffers alongside their consciousness for goals that the human identity will never know during it's life.  This opinion is based on Ra's remark of how the yellow ray identity ceases in death.  Is it ethical for a 6D being to reincarnate into a human identity to use for it's own spiritual gain at it's physical identity's sometimes total loss of if not just joy, then life itself?  I'm looking at Carla as an example of this.  While her human identity seemed able to cope with what her consciousness had in plan for her body, if I had been her I wouldn't have been able to cope at all with the thoughts that I were using myself in such extreme ways for goals I would never be able to see with my human eyes during my human life.
Can you provide your thoughts on these concerns of mine?

Quote:Question 10: I must apologize as I incorrectly typed out this question.  I am also dyslexic  
I meant to say Selfishly Selfless and Selflessly Selfish.  I typed Selfishly Selfish, that was a mistake.

Quote:The question was meant to help me untangle in my mind the single-pointed nature of polarity's core, that being both left and right emerge from the same place and reconcile back into the same place.  This allows for seemingly paradoxical occurrences.  Such as, being selfish can seem selfless, and being selfless can seem selfish.  

Does it all ultimately boil down to the genuine intent rather than all the thoughts, words, and actions made up to that point?  Does giving to the homeless just to make myself feel better boil down to sts polarity?  Does not giving a homeless man 20 dollars cause you know he'll spend it on booze rather than food and water boil down to sto because you didn't want to help another further destroy their self?

This question is me attempting to define the gray areas.
OR, random sudden thought, does being selfish and selfless in the same sequence cause both polarization of sts and sto energies?  Or do they share the same 'thermometer' and thus negate each other if both were to 'rise' (think of adding a negative number to a positive value, your addition is actually subtraction).

Quote:11.  I question the 'most vivid' portion, as I've had dreams that seemed more real and vivid than waking life itself.  Though I think I understand it within the context of 'The most vivid catalyst available to 3D entities'.
I don't know...So many people have compared Earth to the concept of Hell.  I can see it myself personally, and it hurts to see such things being done by creator to creator, I fret at the possibility that I could be one of those creations being cast into the hellish parts of life on Earth.  More so than that, a large part of my conscious mind repeatedly echos that it would rather cease to exist than deal with all of the...more traumatic catalyst available on Earth, an ode to my desire to suicide rather than suffer to such extremes.
The entire concept of catalyst's operations as described by Ra did essentially sum up to Suffering to Learn Lessons to me, which at first was acceptable in examples like you touch a hot stove and learn through pain not to do so again for your own safety.  Or experiencing sadness at the loss of a good friend, so as to learn through the suffering of the catalyst of sadness to try harder to keep your friends.
But past a point, I lose the ability to accept it.  Such as in areas like someone being imprisoned and raped or tortured, what purpose does such vehement suffering and pain have to serve or teach that isn't lost in the distortions spawned by the traumatic experience?  How does the one performing the catalyst upon you, the raped and tortured, learn from teaching you greater myriads of pain when all they garnish from the experience is the pleasure of your suffering?  Sure, it serves some portion of the infinite creator, but were these lessons truly consensual or abrogations of your consent to be interacted with in certain ways?  Is this way of use of the human creation ethical?
If humanity's collective identity one day became aware of these ways and mechanics and functions and existence of Catalyst, would it collectively agree with these mechanisms as ethical once they saw the results of these constructs, or would their be rebellion against this way of reality's functioning?

Quote:Question 12:  That statement about the absence of free will's existence before the veil seems contradictory due to the offered view that before there was even space or time to form a veil in, there was the First Primal Distortion of the Law of One known as The Law of Confusion/Free Will.
I don't see Free Will as inherently selfish, I do however view the way the creation uses 3D creations, from the participation in genocide to the purposeful design of extreme ranges of pain and suffering to planetary scale dissolution and destruction, as being viewable as selfish uses of creation disregarding creation's experiences to the results, seeing any and all as favorable, when possibly to the many that experienced it directly, found it to be wholly unfavorable despite knowing something was still gained for the one infinite.

I think a philosophical question can be garnished from this design of the veil and 3D acquiring experiences for the one infinite; does an entity remain itself once it permanently acquires amnesia, or does it hence become a new entity?  Is the amnesiac entity subject to all the choices and consequences of a life it has no memory of ever being a part of?  Is it ethical to subject that entity that is displaced in an entirely new setting with a new personality and new thoughts to consequences it garnished in a wholly different space, time, and identity?

I guess I just wonder if the one infinite creator has a sense similar to a human, to not rip off one of it's limbs just for the experience of doing so.  I can't say with certainty if it does or doesn't if I'm to believe the history of our solar system given in the Ra Material.  Were I the logos, after one of my planetary bodies was destroyed, I'd put a temporary halt to the experiment just to make sure everything is okay and to see if the little parts of me effected in that occurrence are okay and willing to continue or not, rather than to just be loving to the outcome and continue on without much more thought given to those who suffered through it.

...Perhaps I am overly distorted with love, I care so much about the suffering of others that I question the worth of that suffering.  I question if we could not find a better way to go about this experiment without causing so much harm that entire civilizations are bombing themselves out of physical existence.  It just seems...Like something is off for that to be happening, if you can accept that as my way of seeing things.

Quote:Question 13: I thought as much, but the question spawned from my having a thought about how balancing the indigo ray might affect the physical state of the pineal gland, which lead to what I hope isn't too big of a leap, to the thought that crystallization might affect the physical, and so I was wondering if the nervous system that connects the cardiovascular systems of the heart and the digestive systems of the gut to the mental systems of the brain can also be affected in similar ways as the pineal gland.
Like, does the nervous system surrounding the heart change as the green-ray is crystallized?
Does the digestive system and it's nervous system and operations change to reflect crystallization of the lower triad chakras?
Do the genitalia function more efficiently or effectively (in regards to sexual energy transfers, or maybe even just sex in general) if the red ray is crystallized?  I know a low functioning red-ray with an equally low functioning orange-ray can lead to medical issues like erectile dysfunction, does balancing these rays heal the medical issue?  Does crystallizing them create a sort of perpetuation or defense against the energy centers once more becoming distorted?

Because if they do, then this means scientifically we can potentially find a way to measure this effect by looking at what changes when one crystallizes their chakras.

I could probably make literally a 100 question list about just chakras alone, I've studied them a lot, and sometimes refer to myself as an amateur chakra reader to do divination readings for people.  The energetic chakra system is the one system in the Law of One that I am about 75% sure I reincarnated with knowledge already present.  I remember as a child I could feel 'energy' in the palms of my hands (which I now know are tertiary chakra points), and because I watched Dragon Ball Z, I used to pretend to do the kamehameha attack, and I could literally feel a vibrating frenzy of energy in my right hand whenever I would do this.
Similarly, I attuned myself to the show Naruto majorly because I liked it's idea of 'Chakra' being used, and found that certain hand signs do help me mold and weave my own chakric energies.
I even realized there's a small minor chakra below the red-ray (that I call the magenta-ray) that has two vortices and rotates in a way as to form the serpent look of the instreaming rising energy.  Furthermore this is posited in the vertebrae formations of the spine which largely correlate with chakra centers.
But like, that's my geeking out and I don't want to waste too much of your time >.<

Quote:14.  I actually don't fully agree with your explanation of the violet-ray, I've personally come to find that it is as is without the other chakras directly effecting it, but rather that it effects itself through effecting the other chakras.  Don't know why I felt the need to say this, but I felt like it, so that must mean something.  I've found that meditating upon my violet ray has led to many great intuitions about my other chakras, including moments of such precise intuition that I correctly realized I was HFA where the entire time I thought my mental illness was of some kind of schizoid disorder or even partial schizophrenia or even delusional disorder with the disorder being a delusion of belief of having a disorder.  Then when I went to get diagnosed it was like the pieces of the puzzle all just got thrown into place, the language issues growing up effecting my reading and writing skills, the flapping of my hands as a kid that I found so fun to do, the weird ways I thought and felt that seemed to separate me from everyone else.
I also swear I read Ra saying both the red and violet rays are fixed, but not in the same kinds of ways, with violet being fixated on the totality, while red-ray seemed to be fixated on the individual but I can't find the passage that says this, assuming my memory isn't being stupid  :-/
The information given is still helpful though.  Thank you, Jade.

Quote:34.13 Questioner: What is the general overall effect of television on our society with respect to this catalyst?

Ra: I am Ra. Without ignoring the green-ray attempts of many to communicate via this medium such information, truth, and beauty as may be helpful, we must suggest that the sum effect of this gadget is that of distraction and sleep.

34.14 Questioner: Can you give me the same type of information that we’ve been working on now with respect to the self relationship with war and rumors of war?
Ra: I am Ra. You may see this in relationship to your gadgets. This war and self relationship is a fundamental perception of the maturing entity. There is a great chance to accelerate in whatever direction is desired. One may polarize negatively by assuming bellicose attitudes for whatever reason. One may find oneself in the situation of war and polarize somewhat towards the positive activating orange, yellow, and then green by heroic, if you may call them this, actions taken to preserve the mind/body/spirit complexes of other-selves.

Finally, one may polarize very strongly third ray* by expressing the principle of universal love at the total expense of any distortion towards involvement in bellicose actions. In this way the entity may become a conscious being in a very brief span of your time/space. This may be seen to be what you would call a traumatic progression. It is to be noted that among your entities a large percentage of all progression has as catalyst, trauma.

* This should be fourth ray. Ra corrected the mistake in the next answer.

34.15 Questioner: You just used the term third ray in that statement. Was that the term you meant to use?

Ra: I am Ra. We intended the green ray. Our difficulty lies in our perception of red ray and violet ray as fixed; thus the inner rays are those which are varying and are to be observed as those indications of seniority in the attempts to form an harvest.

Quote:34.16 Questioner: Would the red ray, an intense red ray, then be used as an index for seniority, the seniority system of incarnation, as well as the intense violet ray?

Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. In the graduation or harvesting to fourth-density positive, the red ray is seen only as that, which being activated, is the basis for all that occurs in vibratory levels, the sum of this being violet-ray energy.

This violet ray is the only consideration for fourth-density positive. In assessing the harvestable fourth-density negative, the intensity of the red as well as the orange and the yellow rays is looked upon quite carefully as a great deal of stamina and energy of this type is necessary for the negative progression, it being extremely difficult to open the gateway to intelligent infinity from the solar plexus center. This is necessary for harvest in fourth-density negative.

Quote:16. I'm afraid I have done these things, and where they once helped me, no longer do, and I can't figure out why...  I've read that meditation is supposed to help mental illnesses, but in my case it exacerbates it sometimes, and other times it calms it.  I've come out of meditations perfectly fine one second only to suddenly be hit by crippling oceans of emotions, and other times I'd go for hours doing well with no issues.  It seems almost random.  The work I do on my chakras seems to be persistently stuck on my orange and yellow rays, no matter how much time, effort, patience, love, acceptance, forgiveness, the whole spectrum, and yet I cannot seem to balance them in such a way as to be minimally balanced consistently hour after hour.  Unless I could literally begin performing extended hours long meditations, I don't think I'm going to get anywhere unless something changes, and I don't know what that something is.

I'm still trying though, it can just become so frustrating when you spend 2 hours in a meditation and come out feeling wonderful, blissful, and joyous, then you stand up and you're hit with crippling depression out of nowhere.

Quote:17. It makes me wonder, cause I see everything from 12:22, 12:34, 5:55, 4:44, 3:33...All of it, 4:56, 3:45, you name it I see it I bet.  In fact this occurs in military time, and on analog clocks (ON ANALOG CLOCKS!!  9:45, 8:40, 7:35, 6:30 and that's just when the hands are together).  Maybe one day we can all have a group meditation on the meanings of these alarm clock styled synchronicities.

Quote:Thank you for all your time, sorry if my views are confrontational seeming or rude.  Turns out, when you're HFA, some times you come off rude and impolite without ever noticing it, I hope I haven't been that way in this post.  Genuinely thank you for your time.  It's always a pleasure talking to you even if it seems like it isn't.

Also, thank you everyone else so far who has answered.  Please don't think I don't appreciate your responses!  I just spent...omg, 4 hours responding just to Jade.  The way time flies when you don't want it to lol.  Everything given is helpful, I'll be responding in time...

(01-29-2017, 08:28 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote: Just some thoughts on some of the questions.

I never understood the nillhistic viewpoint. Or rather I feel directly opposite about nillhism. To me having someone say life is about this. Or this is what everything's about. Would make me feel like nillhistic. I like the open ended, make your own path. Make it what you make of it style. Like you Jade I see an infinite potential to experience. I Think of it as a bag of goodies that never end....what's the problem here?

(01-29-2017, 01:21 AM)Aion Wrote: ...

(01-29-2017, 01:30 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: ...

Quote:15.12 Questioner: How does an individual go about balancing himself? What is the first step?
Ra: I am Ra. The steps are only one; that is, an understanding of the energy centers which make up the mind/body/spirit complex. This understanding may be briefly summarized as follows. The first balancing is of the Malkuth, or Earth, vibratory energy complex, called the red-ray complex. An understanding and acceptance of this energy is fundamental. The next energy complex, which may be blocked is the emotional, or personal complex, also known as the orange-ray complex. This blockage will often demonstrate itself as personal eccentricities or distortions with regard to self-conscious understanding or acceptance of self.

The third blockage resembles most closely that which you have called ego. It is the yellow-ray or solar plexus center. Blockages in this center will often manifest as distortions towards power manipulation and other social behaviors concerning those close and those associated with the mind/body/spirit complex. Those with blockages in these first three energy centers, or nexi, will have continuing difficulties in ability to further their seeking of the Law of One.

The center of heart, or green ray, is the center from which third-density beings may springboard, shall we say, towards infinite intelligence. Blockages in this area may manifest as difficulties in expressing what you may call universal love or compassion.

The blue-ray center of energy streaming is the center which, for the first time, is outgoing as well as inpouring. Those blocked in this area may have difficulty in grasping the spirit/mind complexes of its own entity and further difficulty in expressing such understandings of self. Entities blocked in this area may have difficulties in accepting communication from other mind/body/spirit complexes.

The next center is the pineal or indigo-ray center. Those blocked in this center may experience a lessening of the influx of intelligent energy due to manifestations which appear as unworthiness. This is that of which you spoke. As you can see, this is but one of many distortions due to the several points of energy influx into the mind/body/spirit complex. The indigo-ray balancing is quite central to the type of work which revolves about the spirit complex, which has its influx then into the transformation or transmutation of third density to fourth density, it being the energy center receiving the least distorted outpourings of love/light from intelligent energy and having also the potential for the key to the gateway of intelligent infinity.

The remaining center of energy influx is simply the total expression of the entity’s vibratory complex of mind, body, and spirit. It is as it will be, “balanced” or “imbalanced” has no meaning at this energy level, for it gives and takes in its own balance. Whatever the distortion may be, it cannot be manipulated as can the others and, therefore, has no particular importance in viewing the balancing of an entity.

Quote:47.13 ▶ Questioner: What stimulus would create what we call an Earth-bound spirit or a lingering ghost?
Ra: I am Ra. The stimulus for this is the faculty of the will. If the will of yellow-ray mind/body/spirit is that which is stronger than the progressive impetus of the physical death towards realization of that which comes, that is, if the will is concentrated enough upon the previous experience, the entity’s shell of yellow ray, though no longer activated, cannot either be completely deactivated and, until the will is released, the mind/body/spirit complex is caught. This often occurs, as we see you are aware, in the case of sudden death as well as in the case of extreme concern for a thing or an other-self.

Quote:My justification for giving the homeless "booze money" (and, full disclosure, I've given panhandlers marijuana in various forms several times) is that no matter what, they're gonna buy booze. Maybe my $3 will be enough to at least push them over their "booze money" threshhold into the surplus, "food money" budget. You cannot survive on liquor alone, humans have to eat, so I justify that somewhere, some of the money they receive goes to food. Obviously. And maybe the warm gesture will affect them in other, intangible ways, too.  

And let's not judge the boozers so harshly, yeah? Alcohol keeps you warm, reduces pain - most of the homeless have mental illness of some sort, and this is their way of self-medicating. However, it's also why I enjoy giving them marijuana when I can - it's a more legitimate way to self medicate, and a few tokes will often keep someone away from the bottle for a while. But I just think of how cold these people must get, and what physical ailments they likely have that make drinking/medicating a necessity to function.

Quote:Do you believe you might be a dual-activated body? (beings who are early fourth density who have incarnated at harvest for extra extra catalyst)

(01-29-2017, 09:33 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:

(01-29-2017, 01:21 AM)Aion Wrote: ...

This answer helps me somewhat.  Thank you, and hello again.

I find all of what is said in those quotes makes perfect sense to me.  It's ultimately everything that I can use my mind to apply such imaginative scenarios to that brings me to such questions and concerns that I've provided.
Most core of all of my issues you've answered to in your post is the following two areas:
Discerning acceptance and control from each other.
Making sense of the types of catalyst that manifest.

What is it to be accepting, or controlling?  Do we not control the growth of the tree by applying nutrients to it's soil and water to it's roots?  Perhaps that is a very bad example, as we do not control the growth of the tree, it does that itself (whether consciously or otherwise, I am unsure of).
Similarly any examples of a parent controlling a child might be a bad example as the means of parenting offspring might require some form of control be acceptable for their own concerns.
I'm unsure if I can think up an example that isn't heavily flawed or skewed and appropriately highlights my major concerns.

Maybe I'll mention about the legal system.  Is this a form of a negative societal structure?  Taking control of other's resources, right up to their very life?  Is this not a form of negative catalyst that seeks to allow another entity to utilize it to take control over you?  Despite it's positive implications towards maintaining a peaceful society (which in my experience, it itself is not the cause of such wholly).

Does bathing the body count as controlling it's natural functions outcomes?
Does becoming conscientious and being mindful of thoughts had not a form of controlling the response to catalyst of the mind?

Then there's acceptance, what is truly accepting?  Does it mean ultimately to be unattached to the catalyst incoming, to meet it and let it be, to respond only as you feel is appropriate to do so for all parties involved?
Does allowing a car battery to die a form of positive catalyst because you didn't take control and change the components of the car? Urg, that's a bad example too...

Does allowing another to drown a form of positive catalyst if you know you're unable to do anything?  Is calling the authorities for help a form of controlling the situation and thus a negative outcome?

The overall ability for the misunderstanding and misinterpretation of the concepts of 'control' and 'acceptance' are so vague that all I could ever think of that ultimately defines any of these things are the 'intent' of the actions being taken.  If one does not intend to control a situation despite making movements to do so, is this still negative?  If one intends to allow another to be harmed and accepts the reality of the situation, is this positive?

Does stopping an armed attacker's assault count as negative intention?
Does letting an armed attacker assault you count as a form of positive intention?

Is there even a black and white in this area or have we walked into the deeper parts of the twilight zone of reality where there is no black and white, but merely shades of gray ad infinitum?  Does this mean an act of both polarities ultimately rounds out to which end of the spectrum is more highlighted, the positive or negative?  Is this the cause for the two steps forward one step back usual occurrence of polarizing in entities?

Is anything at this level of discussion even possible to be handed out as black or white?

When we talk of control, of acceptance, of catalyst, is any of it actually truly neutral, or positive, or negative, or is it all a mixture that must be met, processed, and diffused/assimilated?

I thank you for your answer as it gives me a lot to consider, but I just want to point out that I personally believe catalyst, while majorly neutral, does have charged sides about it.  Why, when your boss attempts to ruin your life on a whim, I'd call that a wholly negative catalyst, as it serves to control the major outcome of your life at your own loss with no thought or concern given to you, and further offers the catalytic gift of further negative catalyst down the road, such as being mugged by someone while homeless, being assaulted by police for soliciting in a location just trying to stay warm and alive.  Similarly, when the love of your life shows up with flowers, chocolates, and tickets to an event you really wanted, I'd see this as neutral-positive catalyst, which has the further catalytic gift of offering further catalyst later on of a potentially positive nature.

I understand that a phrase exists for coping with negative catalyst, 'things falling apart are actually things falling together'.  I find this is not true for many people who's final days on Earth are spent on the streets starving, freezing, sick, and lonely.  The only thing that fell together from their fallen apart life was their death certificate.

So obviously There's some things that I feel needs to be addressed.

In fact, sometimes, if I really let myself just be honest with myself, I feel like I'm here desperately trying to grasp for some kind of thought process or experience that will aid me in offering some kind of useful or worthwhile suggestion as to the design of this reality.  A good big part of me feels that I'm a designer of sorts in the afterlife.  Not sure if it's just of reality systems, physics, aesthetics or functions or what, but I desperately want to find a way to help make catalyst on this planet a bit more efficiently used so as to lessen the overall suffering across 3D, at least to the point where there aren't souls so lost in this density that several people have Near Death Experiences witnessing planes of depressed souls wandering aimlessly upon the plane unable to cope with the misery that manifests from their very selves and experiences they've had.

I might also add, since I was a child and made to attend catholic night school classes, and learned of the afterlife, I've had a lifelong desire nigh obsession (which goes along with my being HFA...) of the afterlife.  I used to imagine a large field of flowers with a tree and a river as just one part of what the afterlife would look like, in a sense like a way-station.  It's desire to be known by me has been explored in my own fictional works, and overall has been the leading factor in my life towards a pull to explore philosophies, cultures, the paranormal, but of it all I find myself so laughably ill-equipped to properly go about researching and exploring any of these things that I'm left chuckling stupidly at my self.  Some days the want to know is so obsessive I contemplate if I should self-initiate a NDE, but I'm also not stupid and know doing so would probably go beyond the 'near' part of the death experience.

I really just want to better understand things so I can actually help in a way that doesn't feel futile to me.  Volunteering at soup kitchens, giving food and water to the homeless on the corners of the roads, looking for jobs where I help those in need, it all feels so futile.  Sure it helps one in ways greatly appreciated, but it also brings me ever closer to the great misery that I try to escape from, and it does make me lose my mind at the injustice, the backwards systems, the deliberate use and abuse of life by those with power within humanity.

It makes me mad.  Sad.  Upset.  I do not want to see people hurting, I just don't believe they deserve it.  My only exception to this, is when it is what they want.  I've met homeless people who've told me right to my face, 'I'm a horrible person and deserve to suffer', and then they turn right around and help others doing better than himself at his own loss.  I can accept that, but it just makes me wonder, why does such a loving person believe they have to suffer, that they're horrible?  It makes me sad.  I care too much.

That catalyst is as it is I now question if it is actually made purposefully to incite suffering, or if it was just a natural occurrence as to the [meta]physics of our reality that it should cause such suffering when not used.

What's more, if it were simply possible for the intuitive sense of people to be better honed to provide a better...Path Compass to direct people through their own selves.

I don't know, Aion.  If you could change something to make catalyst more efficiently used and lessen the severity of misery in 3D, would you?  Or would that just be seen by creation as a negative attempt to control it?

moving onward~
Minyatur (did I spell that right?  What a tricky name!), your response actually served to confuse me somewhat more, but then again your energy feels especially different so all I can do is try to understand.  Some of the things you suggest are actually things I've had to undo because they were already done.  My energetic system, specifically at the yellow-ray, was completely shut down for a few years.  My red-ray is pretty heavily damaged from long-term issues of survival, I've suffering with suicidal tendencies since I was just a child, in fact the moment I learned of an afterlife was the moment I realized I didn't really actually want to be alive, as much as I just wanted to be...Happy.  I'd rather die and enjoy the afterlife than live and suffer, but life isn't that simple, I have people who love me and care about me, I have friends who rely on me for their own emotional support.  To just remove myself would be more painful to them than myself I imagine, in the long run, so I try not to.
Doesn't change the fact I still try every year, when you can't control some of the faculties of your mind, it really doesn't make things any easier to cope with.

Further, there was one point in my life were everything was good, some people seem to call this a spiritual awakening but I felt like it was more than that.  More than waking up, it was like discovering something that made everything else acceptable, and then I subsequently lost grip of whatever it was I had discovered, and sank back into my old patterns which beforehand were the norm, and afterwards, suddenly was just such a terrible thing to experience, like day and night only it's the same thing.  Because of that I wonder about what you've said.

I do not see perfection in the way it is normally attributed, to me, something perfect must have a paradoxical imperfection about it that closes the loop, makes the full circle be had, and creates the only true thing that is perfect, im/perfection.  In that way I can agree with you that reality is perfect as is, but even perfection leaves room for involvement, evolution, for tweaking the game.

Many of your examples, like mine, are generalizations and may not be best utilized by some in mindfulness, for instance, a 4D positive entity may not be balanced, but I believe it is very much conscious of its self, and in a way that consciousness is merely lacking the wisdom to realize how imbalanced it is towards love.  If by unconscious you meant uninformed of the ever deeper realistic portions of reality shared with the less dense portions, then definitely I can see what you're saying.

I find it alarming that you say you believe in balance over polarity.  I thought the exact same thing then one day realized there is no difference between the two.  In order to polarize in any direction, a sort of balance that I can only describe as im/balance needs to be met by the entity to consistently constantly polarize.  Without the imbalances and balances of the mixture of energies like Wisdom and Love or their inversions such as Logic and Control, any attempt to polarize through utilizing catalyst may merely be met with stumbling into the energies of indifference due to the inability to properly be aware or conscious of what needs be done to polarize a certain way.

For me, balance is a mechanism designed to further the efficient usage of not only catalyst, but experiences overall both within and without incarnation.  Balance is my middle name, a-lack-of is my last  

But seriously, your views are interesting and mimics many of mine when I first began digesting in depth the Law of One philosophy or at least the bits of it we have available to us...  I just get a strong sense that you're heavily blocking yourself, possibly for the benefit of us all, as I think were you to just come full out 200% honesty, you'd probably incite great amounts of cognitive dissonance in all of us, er, I apologize, I shouldn't speak for the others, at the very least, you'd incite such in myself.

Jade, I shall reply in a separate post to you~!

Quote:78.24 Questioner: This is a hard question just to ask, but what is the function or what is the value experientially of the formation of positive and negative social memory complexes, of the separation of the polarities at that point rather than the allowing for the mixing of mind/body/spirit complexes of opposite polarity at the higher densities?

Ra: I am Ra. The purpose of polarity is to develop the potential to do work. This is the great characteristic of those, shall we say, experiments which have evolved since the concept of The Choice was appreciated. Work is done far more efficiently and with greater purity, intensity, and variety by the voluntary searching of mind/body/spirit complexes for the lessons of third and fourth densities. The action of fifth density is, viewed in space/time, the same with or without polarity. However, viewed in time/space, the experiences of wisdom are greatly enlarged and deepened due, again, to the voluntary nature of polarized mind/body/spirit action.

Quote:We spoke to one who heard and understood and was in a position to decree the Law of One. However, the priests and peoples of that era quickly distorted our message, robbing it of the, shall we say, compassion with which unity is informed by its very nature. Since it contains all, it cannot abhor any.

Quote:94.20 Questioner: The magical shape is on the right edge of the card indicating to me that the spiritual significance is on the right edge of the card, indicating to me that the spiritual experience would be the right-hand path. Could Ra comment on that?

Ra: I am Ra. Yes. The figure is expressing the nature of experience by having its attention caught by what may be termed the left-hand catalyst. Meanwhile, the power, the magic, is available upon the right-hand path.

The nature of experience is such that the attention shall be constantly given varieties of experience. Those that are presumed to be negative, or interpreted as negative, may seem in abundance. It is a great challenge to take catalyst and devise the magical, positive experience. That which is magical in the negative experience is much longer coming, shall we say, in the third density.

(01-30-2017, 01:52 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: This post took way too long to write.  Jade you're free to respond as you will.  I have a feeling if we don't somehow distinguish a few subjects apart out posts will become novels  

(01-30-2017, 02:36 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:

(01-30-2017, 01:52 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: This post took way too long to write.  Jade you're free to respond as you will.  I have a feeling if we don't somehow distinguish a few subjects apart out posts will become novels  

Hey friend. I woke up this morning and began penning chapters 3 and 4 of "A Seeker's Manifesto" and, after about an hour and a half, I was almost halfway through. I was around the part where we were discussing the homeless, and reiterating how important intent is vs. the actual manifestation of intent. And I hit the wrong key on my keyboard, which popped up the website's script, and I hit backspace to correct my typo - and it "backspaced" my whole browser page, effectively eating everything I had written.

It's especially frustrating because on my old computer that died just a couple of months ago, I had a browser add-on that stored any text inputs, to prevent something like this happening (losing hours' worth of intensive work while typing on B4), but I had yet to think to install it on the browser on my new computer. Regrets.

So, I want to thank you for inciting some ~exquisite~ catalyst for me, and allowing my higher self to play such an amusing "cosmic joke". I got a nice hard lesson in "perceived manifestation of events" and "the apparent futility of the intention of love". Hopefully soon I'll feel up to trying to tackle this task again, but right now I'm quite devastated and defeated by this event, so I have to step away for a while to regroup before I try again.

(01-30-2017, 02:50 PM)Minyatur Wrote: At least I feel more amused than any frustrated as I was wondering if I had the right focus in what I wrote not long ago and take it as a symbolic answer to that.

(01-30-2017, 07:38 AM)Aion Wrote: ...

Quote:You want to change the nature of reality for everybody, but I may be so bold as to suggest that there are those who would not want you to.

(01-28-2017, 06:55 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: Hi there, B4.  It's been a while since I've seen this place.  I see you're still very inactive, but still around.

(01-28-2017, 06:55 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: Part of that is revisiting several of the concepts in the Ra Material, and in doing so I'm going to ask for help, for the first time really.  In the past I've tried to rely on my own internal understanding over external expressions and opinions.  In doing so I lost myself to my own inherent issues, and since then I've pretty much been stuck on them, unable to properly be openminded.

(01-28-2017, 06:55 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: 1. What constitutes Catalyst?  What derives it's function and being?  What gives it substance or the ability to create to an entity polarization?

Quote:All that you perceive seems to be consciously perceived. This is not the correct supposition. All that you perceive is perceived as catalyst unconsciously. By the, shall we say, time that the mind begins its appreciation of catalyst, that catalyst has been filtered through the veil and in some cases much is veiled in the most apparently clear perception.93.20

Quote:The catalyst, and all catalyst, is designed to offer experience. This experience in your density may be loved and accepted or it may be controlled. These are the two paths. When neither path is chosen the catalyst fails in its design and the entity proceeds until catalyst strikes it which causes it to form a bias towards acceptance and love or separation and control. There is no lack of space/time in which this catalyst may work.46.16

Quote:The catalyst, and all catalyst, is designed to offer experience. This experience in your density may be loved and accepted or it may be controlled. These are the two paths. When neither path is chosen the catalyst fails in its design and the entity proceeds until catalyst strikes it which causes it to form a bias towards acceptance and love or separation and control. There is no lack of space/time in which this catalyst may work. [46.16]

(01-31-2017, 05:22 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I find it hard to imagine transcending that which makes up the very essence of all creation.

Intelligent Energy and Intelligent Infinity.  Believe me when I say I've tried to.

I imagine Intellect is just a micro-microcosm of the Intelligent intelligence of infinity.

Quote:Truth is, I think the intellect is illusory and the true nature of mind is nothing like all this 'content' we experience here. Thinking as it is is a 'veiled' activity in my understanding.

Quote:My friends, we wish only to speak to you very briefly this evening. We are shepherds of your flock and we see the needs of the flock. Our only desire is to aid those of the flock who seek our aid. The aid you seek, my friends, has become very much focused upon true seeking than that of most of the sheep of the flock. Therefore, what can we say to you intellectually is more and more lacking in complete satisfaction. It is for this reason, my friends, that we stress to you, even as you are gaining advancement, the continued need for more and more meditation. For, my friends, what we can give you through use of the intellect and language is a very small percentage only of what we are able to give you by direct contact—mind to mind.

We would say this to you: there is an everlasting experience that’s cycled again and again within the physical illusion that you now enjoy. This experience is one of complexity. Events that happen are always events that are essentially unexplained. My friends, the unexplained sets up within your human intellect a great frustration and you seek the explanation with your intellect. But, my friends, the explanation for the cycle of experience within the physical is never within the physical.

The answer, my friends, is to be found within the spiritual consciousness. The flimsy craft of your physical intellectual ability is not designed to sail from the deep seas of spiritual reasons. Do not attempt to take it into the depths of reasons or else, I assure you, your flimsy craft will break apart and you will think that you are surely lost. (Hatonn, April 24, 1974--all emphasis mine)

(01-31-2017, 12:15 PM)Aion Wrote:

(01-31-2017, 05:22 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I find it hard to imagine transcending that which makes up the very essence of all creation.

Intelligent Energy and Intelligent Infinity.  Believe me when I say I've tried to.

I imagine Intellect is just a micro-microcosm of the Intelligent intelligence of infinity.

Imagining is different from experiencing directly. Of course you cannot imagine anything other than what is imaginable and precisely why I do not think the truth of reality is to be seen in the imagination of the intellect. I don't believe you can grasp the nature of reality purely through intellectual rearrangement of ideas. I believe it is only possible to really understand it through direct interaction. Otherwise it's like looking at the moon and believing you are getting to know the truth of the sun.

Truth is, I think the intellect is illusory and the true nature of mind is nothing like all this 'content' we experience here. Thinking as it is is a 'veiled' activity in my understanding.

Empty your mind of everything, every idea and every concept and I think that is reaching closer to the truth. This emptiness could also be described as 'equilibrium' and is why balancing is the crux of all 'progress' towards unification.

Quote:The question to me is, why rely so much on the intellect to obtain a vision of truth? Yes, you have realized the paradoxical and self-contradictory nature of pure thought, but then go further, transcend the intellect and you may reach closer to the truth of nature, if you ask me.

(01-28-2017, 06:55 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: 2. Does Polarity adhere wholly to a duality system or can it be threefold, fourfold, and further faceted into differing points of the same 'polygonal-graph' spectrum (3+ directions) (versus a line-graph spectrum ((2 directions)), if you guys understand what I mean?)

Quote:3. Responding to Catalyst creates the potential for Polarization to occur, what does this mean?

Quote:4. In a society of backwards things, do things considered 'wrong' by society turn out actually to be proper?  I.e things like homosexuality, transgender people, substance usage like thc or...myocilin (stuff in mushrooms), or other hallucinogens (DMT, LSD?)

Quote:We would like to comment, also, about the use of the term morality. We will simply say this, and you may take for what it is worth. It is difficult to understand intellectually. My friends, there is no morality. There is only love. If you will radiate love for all, you will never need to know what is right and what is wrong. The entire difficulty with morality is due to a desire to follow rules rather than a desire to follow the Father. Meditation, correctly pursued, quickly shows the basic simplicity of the way of the Father. That which you term moral decision is within each and available to all. No matter what the conscious frame of mind, and no matter how many chances have been missed, that which is redeeming lies always within, and not one bit has been taken away from anyone. (Hatonn, January 21, 1974)