05-09-2016, 11:04 AM
Hey, fair enough, that's why I said they are -typically- of one transformation and not the other. I don't think most real shamans go into the forest to learn about the plants for money - they do it to heal people. Mostly. Traditionally. Of course now that it's more popular it's becoming more monetized, hence the subsequent laboratory extraction. The biggest cost to the ayahuasca retreat is actually just getting to Peru, where the plants are indigenous, but yeah I think that's a hurdle - why are these plants only in Peru?? Anyway, I've heard more and more of "local" shamans obtaining the plants and creating situations for ceremonies - my friend is attending a "genuine" ayahuasca ceremony in Seattle soon. All I'm saying is that I think this is the more traditionally useful route, in a group setting with an experienced teacher, vs. smoking crystallized DMT on your couch. One high lasts for 15 minutes, the other lasts for 6+ hours. All I'm saying is that there is a difference and I'm attempting to explore archetypically why. Of course there will always be outliers to traditional rituals. I'm only even talking to encourage your guys' safety if you do attempt to obtain crystallized DMT, because I only know one other person who has.