When a wanderer fails to remember and has to repeat third density

[Zach]

Anyone know if Ra or subsequent channeled entities have mention what happens once the wanderer repeats third density? If they go through the 75,000 year cycle or even 25,000 year mid cycle harvest and become harvestable,  do they then graduate back to their original home density or do they have to repeat all the densities again?

my feeling is that if one does develop that mysterious condition called "karma" by being deliberately and knowingly unloving, then that becomes a 'tie' or a bond to some aspect of this density.

I honestly don't know how much karma it would take to rope one back here, and prevent one from moving on, once the mission had been executed.

'Consciously unloving' would be doing knowing harm.  That is, you know that what you are going to say or do is going to hurt/injure the other person, and you do it anyway.  Poisoning a relative to gain their fortune would be consciously unloving.  Tripping a person with your foot when you know they are going to fall would be consciously unloving.  Beating someone to get them to comply to your wishes would be consciously unloving.

12.29 Questioner: What could one of these entities do to become karmically involved? Could you give us an example?

Ra: I am Ra. An entity which acts in a consciously unloving manner in action with other beings can become karmically involved.

But karma can be alleviated at any time.  It just takes a conscious recognition of what was done, and the swallowing of pride and ego to admit that one was wrong.

34.5 Questioner: If an entity develops what is called a karma in an incarnation, is there then programming that sometimes occurs so that he will experience catalyst that will enable him to get to a point of forgiveness thereby alleviating the karma?

Ra: I am Ra. This is, in general, correct. However, both self and any involved other-self may, at any time through the process of understanding, acceptance, and forgiveness, ameliorate these patterns. This is true at any point in an incarnative pattern. Thus one who has set in motion an action may forgive itself and never again make that error. This also brakes or stops what you call karma.

The point about commiting to 'never again make that error' is a deep one.  It shows a true understanding, and not just a temporary apology to just smooth things over temporarily.  It is a soul-level understanding that what was harmful was truly hurtful to oneself, let alone the other-self.  The deepest level of forgiveness and karmic alleviation involves the understanding that what you did to the other person, you effectively did to yourself, and you hurt yourself to an equal degree to the other self.  Physically, and outwardly, that might seem like a nonsensical position to argue.  Hey, mentally and emotionally, you may hurt, but if you physically damaged another person, how can you honestly say you felt it as much as the other-self?  But believe me, the remorse that comes with true forgiveness hits you like a cement block when you fully comprehend the nature of the karmic action/words.

To answer your queston Jeremy, I thnk all that needs to be done if one accumulates 3d karma as a Wanderer that is enough to tie you here, is to untie that karmic knot.  Then you are free to return back home.  You don't need to repeat the other stuff, because that has already been experienced and learnt.

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the other point possibly relevant to this discussion is that Ra mentioned that some Wanderers would choose an 'armor of light' over their spirit complex, so that they would be less subject to negative/Orion influence.  

" There is just as much chance of such influence to a Wanderer entity as to a mind/body/spirit complex of this planetary sphere. The only difference occurs in the spirit complex which, if it wishes, has an armor of light, if you will, which enables it to recognize more clearly that which is not as it would appropriately be desired by the mind/body/spirit complex. This is not more than a bias and cannot be called an understanding."

I don't know if this would prevent the action of karma.  I think everyone is prone to negative thoughts/actions that have the potential to be karmic.

This 'armoring' would be more about preventing/blocking external tampering by neggies.

If I can make a personal confession, I think I might have this kind of armoring.  I have been subject to a vast amount of negative influence/attitudes from our physical 3d society, but I can't for the life of me recall negative entities messing with me.  Not in the way that others have reported.  There may have been the one incident - but that was very fleeting, and there was some aspect of invitation in the way my mind was turned at the time.  But apart from that; no manipulated dreams, no sense that there are external thoughts being 'injected' or stimulated by a malevolent source.  I consider myself quite blessed to have travelled so far, and yet not be messed with by neggies.  

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the above quote could also be interpreted as meaning that such an individual with an armor of light would somehow recognise things that are counter to it's deepest desires of polarity, and not act on those things.  Sort of like a warning light when possible karmic action was in play.

I love how you call them neggies

I see the armor of light more relating to the individuals 'discernment faculty'; a kind of armor that aids one in discerning their Higher intent from less desirable configurations rather than a full on shielding from negative sources. Basically what you said except I don't believe any force would automatically prevent the entity from acting on less than desirable configurations...only, like you said, give a kind of warning through feeling.

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I think there is a need to balance what Ra says with personal insight specifically on this topic.

Its silly to think you are going to repeat a full 3rd density cycle for getting in a fist fight for example...or something along those lines. We all sign up for different contracts. Some choose to work in 3d for more than one life, some just one life. I think as long as you don't get seriously deterred from your higher intent things will go along the lines of what you signed up for. I recall Ra mentioning the intent of the seeker is what matters most. That can be a tricky subject. All in all, I don't believe being harvestable is always required for a wanderer to return to its "home density" after an incarnation.

Heres one way I see it:

You are already, as a wanderer, 4th, 5th or 6th density. You already did the work to get to that point, you wander because you want to serve those planets experiencing sorrow and you see opportunity for self growth. So falling out of balance to the point of repeating a cycle- consider the internal reality that would have to exist for that to happen.