08-28-2014, 03:42 PM
(08-24-2014, 01:17 PM)manniz Wrote: [...] You would have understood the darkness, instead of ignoring it. True love needs understanding.
By providing honest feedbalc from the ground here in this heavily veiled third density, we are providing understanding to the whole of creation.
It may all be an illusion here, but creation takes it very seriously. [...]
manniz, as I alluded to earlier, I wanted to pick on another important aspect of your post, as I see it from my limited perspective.
Before that, I would just like to say that like many on this forum, I consider the LOO as a very important tool in my personal spiritual evolution, in terms of understanding the cosmos (however imperfect that subjective understanding may be) and my role in it. The teachings and spiritual illuminations of Ra expanded my thinking and perspectives in ways that I never imagined possible. However, it also, I believe, led me to consider some very vexing existential dilemmas or paradoxes, which was made all the more acute due to the extremely traumatic events in my life. The following write-up is purely based upon the spiritual view that I have picked up from the picture of creation and the One Infinite Creator that the LOO has supplied. Of course, it will be riddled with personal biases and subjective misunderstandings, as I am very much a human being with a limited perspective, making my way as I am, under a thickly veiled third density environment.
Coming back to the aspect of your post that I have picked, manniz, what I think we are trying to address there, in the name of 'darkness', is the question of 'evil'. Though evil can denote a wide array of actions, thoughts and events, when distilled, it usually means pain that one visits upon another without any consideration or regard for the latter's state of distress, but purely absorbed with the gratification that the stronger one in the situation is getting out of the ability to derive some benefit from the other's induced condition. In a simplistic way, evil can be defined as the utter disregard for the dismal condition that one person may face due to the actions of another. Utter disregard of another for one's own benefit can be characterized as service to self (STS). Thus, it can be said that the principle of evil has some deep connection with the idea of STS.
Now let us consider the following, tucked away deep within the LOO --
Quote:30.1 ↥ Questioner: I am going to make a statement and then let you correct it if I have made any errors. This is the statement: Creation is a single entity or unity. If only a single entity exists, then the only concept of service is service to self. If this single entity subdivides, then the concept of service of one of its parts to the other part is born. From this concept springs the equality of service to self or to others. It would seem that as the Logos subdivided, parts would select each orientation. As individualized entities emerge in space/time then I would assume that they have polarity. Is this statement correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This statement is quite perceptive and correct until the final phrase in which we note that the polarities begin to be explored only at the point when a third-density entity becomes aware of the possibility of choice between the concept or distortion of service to self or service to others. This marks the end of what you may call the unselfconscious or innocent phase of conscious awareness.
Thus, it can probably be surmised, from the LOO, that at the very heart of the act of creation by love, lies the grievous contradiction of the presence of evil, as well, i.e., the tendency to employ someone or something else for the gratification of the stronger one in a given contextual situation. With already that unsettling paradox in place, the act of creation proceeded and then finally came the time of the 'great experiment' or the veiling (in the parlance of Ra). From the LOO, we can sort of pick that the veiling was in many ways directly responsible for the birth or sensed influence of STS tendencies.
Quote:82.29 ▶ Questioner: You stated in a much earlier session that it is necessary to polarize anything more than 50% service to self to be harvestable fourth-density positive. Was this condition the same at the time before the veil? The same percentage polarization?
Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working.
The query is not answered easily, for the concept of service to self did not hold sway previous to what we have been calling the veiling process. The necessity for graduation to fourth density is an ability to use, welcome, and enjoy a certain intensity of the white light of the One Infinite Creator. In your own terms at your space/time nexus this ability may be measured by your previously stated percentages of service.
Prior to the veiling process the measurement would be that of an entity walking up a set of your stairs, each of which was imbued with a certain quality of light. The stair upon which an entity stopped would be either third-density light or fourth-density light. Between the two stairs lies the threshold. To cross that threshold is difficult. There is resistance at the edge, shall we say, of each density. The faculty of faith or will needs to be understood, nourished, and developed in order to have an entity which seeks past the boundary of third density. Those entities which do not do their homework, be they ever so amiable, shall not cross. It was this situation which faced the Logoi prior to the veiling process being introduced into the experiential continuum of third density.
May we ask if there are any brief queries at this working?
Thus, manniz, it looks like the apparent paradoxical tinge of evil mixed with love at the heart of creation, which down the road led to situations "where loving people have been caught in the whirlwind of torture and humiliation" (using a phrase that you used), will probably remain with us through the run of the present set of infinite creations. May be the LOO would illustrate the tragic situation or justify it in the following terms --
Quote:Free will does not mean that there will be no circumstances when calculations will be awry. This is so in all aspects of the life experience. Although there are no mistakes, there are surprises.
(Words of Ra extracted from 69.17)
For those who feel aggrieved with the apparent injustice, I think a very constructive thing to do would be to champion the cause against profligate pain by relaying our learning back to the core of creation, so that when the One Infinite Creator launches a 'new infinity', it would reflect the lessons that have been bought with a great price.
Quote:52.12 ↥ Questioner: Thank you. In mentioning, in the previous session, the harvest, you mentioned the light-bringers from the octave. Am I to understand that those who provide the light for the gradation of graduation are of an octave above the one we experience? Could you tell me more about these light-bringers, who they are, etc.?
Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full query of this working.
This octave density of which we have spoken is both omega and alpha, the spiritual mass of the infinite universes becoming one central sun or Creator once again. Then is born a new universe, a new infinity, a new Logos which incorporates all that the Creator has experienced of Itself. In this new octave there are also those who wander. We know very little across the boundary of octave except that these beings come to aid our octave in its Logos completion.
Is there any brief query which you have at this time?
Till a new infinity comes around, probably there will be no direct satisfactory answer to the following haunting appeal that you have raised --
(08-24-2014, 01:17 PM)manniz Wrote: Give free will to darkness, but also protect the free will of its victims. No point to life without freedom. Even unconditional love needs freedom to experience, freedom to exist.