(08-21-2014, 06:40 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I feel that we are here for no real purpose. You could say we share our love and light with the world. But I don't believe that's a purpose. I think we are without purpose, and here to simply experience. There is no right or wrong.

We are here because we want the limitation. Things come so easily for us in other dimensions of being, that we wanted a challenge. And Earth provides the most difficult challenge, with the most limitation. My freedom is only illusory.

We are here to experience an illusion. There is no purpose that guides me. I'm not here to make my good deeds outnumber my bad deeds. I used to think I had a mission. Life was hard then. It takes a burden off, not having to amount to anything in particular.

We are here to learn through our limitation. Experience what cannot be experienced on the other side (that being Infinity). Inside this world we have illusion. Outside this world we have infinity. Infinity is where we see God. I am no longer worried about harvest. I am no longer worried about living a worthy life. And I do not worry about the future. Now how long this lasts will be up to me. I may soon forget what I have written.

Look forward to hearing your comments.

(08-21-2014, 06:40 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I think we are without purpose, and here to simply experience.

Quote:65.12 ↥ Questioner: Then each of the Wanderers here acts as a function of the biases he has developed in any way he sees fit to communicate or simply be in his polarity to aid the total consciousness of the planet. Is there any, shall I say, more physical way that he aids in— what I mean is, do the vibrations somehow add, just as electrical polarity or charging a battery or something? Does that also aid the planet, just the physical presence of the Wanderers?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct and the mechanism is precisely as you state. We intended this meaning in the second portion of our previous answer.

You may, at this time, note that as with any entities, each Wanderer has its unique abilities, biases, and specialties so that from each portion of each density represented among the Wanderers comes an array of pre-incarnative talents which then may be expressed upon this plane which you now experience so that each Wanderer, in offering itself before incarnation, has some special service to offer in addition to the doubling effect of planetary love and light and the basic function of serving as beacon or shepherd.

Thus there are those of fifth density whose abilities to express wisdom are great. There are fourth- and sixth-density Wanderers whose ability to serve as, shall we say, passive radiators or broadcasters of love and love/light are immense. There are many others whose talents brought into this density are quite varied.

Thus Wanderers have three basic functions once the forgetting is penetrated, the first two being basic, the tertiary one being unique to that particular mind/body/spirit complex.

We may note at this point while you ponder the possibility/probability vortices that although you have many, many items which cause distress and thus offer seeking and service opportunities, there is always one container in that store of peace, love, light, and joy. This vortex may be very small, but to turn one’s back upon it is to forget the infinite possibilities of the present moment. Could your planet polarize towards harmony in one fine, strong moment of inspiration? Yes, my friends. It is not probable; but it is ever possible.

(08-21-2014, 06:40 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I feel that we are here for no real purpose. You could say we share our love and light with the world. But I don't believe that's a purpose. I think we are without purpose, and here to simply experience. There is no right or wrong.

We are here because we want the limitation. Things come so easily for us in other dimensions of being, that we wanted a challenge. And Earth provides the most difficult challenge, with the most limitation. My freedom is only illusory.

We are here to experience an illusion. There is no purpose that guides me. I'm not here to make my good deeds outnumber my bad deeds. I used to think I had a mission. Life was hard then. It takes a burden off, not having to amount to anything in particular.

We are here to learn through our limitation. Experience what cannot be experienced on the other side (that being Infinity). Inside this world we have illusion. Outside this world we have infinity. Infinity is where we see God. I am no longer worried about harvest. I am no longer worried about living a worthy life. And I do not worry about the future. Now how long this lasts will be up to me. I may soon forget what I have written.

Look forward to hearing your comments.

Quote:83.10 Questioner: Was there any uniformity or like functions of societies or social organizations prior to the veil?

Ra: I am Ra. The third density is, by its very fiber, a societal one. There are societies wherever there are entities conscious of the self and conscious of other-selves and possessed with intelligence adequate to process information indicating the benefits of communal blending of energies. The structures of society before as after veiling were various. However, the societies before veiling did not depend in any case upon the intentional enslavement of some for the benefit of others, this not being seen to be a possibility when all are seen as one. There was, however, the requisite amount of disharmony to produce various experiments in what you may call governmental or societal structures.

Quote:83.20 Questioner: Would you give me an example of a complex activity of the body that we have now and how it was not complex prior to the veil?

Ra: I am Ra. Prior to the great experiment a mind/body/spirit was capable of controlling the pressure of blood in the vein, the beating of the organ you call the heart, the intensity of the sensation known to you as pain, and all the functions now understood to be involuntary or unconscious.

Quote:94.22 ↥ Questioner: Then prior to the veiling process that which we call catalyst after the veiling was not catalyst simply because it was not efficiently creating polarity, because this loading process, you might say, that I have diagrammed, of catalyst passing through the veil and becoming polarized experience, was not in effect because the viewing of what we call catalyst by the entity was seen much more clearly as simply an experience of the One Creator and not something that was a function of other mind/body/spirit complexes. Would Ra comment on that statement?

Ra: I am Ra. The concepts discussed seem without significant distortion.

Quote:78.20 ↥ Questioner: Then our particular Logos, when it created Its own particular creation, was at some point far down the evolutionary spiral of the experiment with the significator becoming what it was not or in effect, creating the polarity that we strive for in third density, and, therefore was, I am assuming, primarily concerned in the design of the archetypes, in designing them in such a way so as they would create the acceleration of this polarization. Is this in any way correct?

Ra: I am Ra. We would only comment briefly. It is generally correct. You may fruitfully view each Logos and its design as the Creator experiencing Itself. The seed concept of the significator being a complex introduces two things: firstly, the Creator against Creator in one sub-Logos in what you may call dynamic tension; secondly, the concept of free will, once having been made fuller by its extension into the sub-Logoi known as mind/body/spirit complexes, creates and re-creates and continues to create as a function of its very nature.

(08-22-2014, 02:44 PM)Unbound Wrote: Is it not that we are the One watching ourselves? Instead of asking, "Why did they do this?" isn't the question, "Why did I do this?"

(08-22-2014, 02:41 PM)Confused Wrote: In other words, the entire game may seem meaningless and purposeless for us. However, it looks like, to me, that we are like the gladiators in the ring, who will fight and gore each other, for the amusement of the high lords who are seated on the platform and for the audience. I am sort of appalled by the thought that we are like ants in the vivarium for the ONE, to observe and learn as to how infinite entities react to an infinite array of possibilities and scenarios. Indeed my life seems to have purpose--to serve or offer the ONE with experiences, whether I like it or not; or am consciously aware of it or not.

(08-22-2014, 09:22 PM)Stranger Wrote: Confused, there is lots of bitterness in your post which is understandable if one looks at the world from within the illusion, and sees all the suffering you mention.

The main point that I would like to make to you is that you are not you. You are God (the Logos). You were never you because you have always been God. You are never separate from God and never have been, because that is impossible. Your consciousness is God's consciousness.

Everything that you consider to be "you" is actually just an agglomeration of concepts about yourself, which are all false because they ignore the fact that your identity has no existence at all without God's consciousness being present to believe in those concepts, in the same way that a book is a thing that has no life until someone picks it up and reads it and thereby experiences it.

The truth as I understand it is that God can do whatever he well pleases with himself. This includes imagining and acting out the role of a limited being who believes he or she is alone, isolated and left to fend for him- or her-self in a difficult world. In the same exact way that you have the right to launch a video game on your computer and take on a character experiencing all sort of difficulties. Now make that video game fully immersive, so that you begin to think that you are that character, and begin to feel everything that character would be feeling if the game were real. Which it's not - neither for you, nor for your video game self. But you would have an exact analog to what it means to be God playing a character calling itself Confused on this message board.

Ultimately, no one is ever harmed, everyone wins the game, and the entire existence including all of Creation dwells in an ultimate reality of absolute bliss, momentarily forgotten by us but ever within our reach, because it is our ever-present nature.

Thank you for your post!

Quote:65.17 ↥ Questioner: Then we deal with an entity that has not yet formed a social memory but is yet an entity just as one of us can be called a single entity. Can we continue this observation of the, shall I say, conglomerate entity through the galactic entity, or shall I say, small planetary system type of— Let me try to phrase it this way. Could I look at a single sun in its planetary system as an entity and then look at a major galaxy with its billions of stars as an entity? Can I continue this extrapolation in this way?

Ra: I am Ra. You can but not within the framework of third-density space/time.

Let us attempt to speak upon this interesting subject. In your space/time you and your peoples are the parents of that which is in the womb. The Earth, as you call it, is ready to be born and the delivery is not going smoothly. When this entity has become born it will be instinct with the social memory complex of its parents which have become fourth-density positive. In this density there is a broader view.

You may begin to see your relationship to the Logos or sun with which you are most intimately associated. This is not the relationship of parent to child but of Creator, that is Logos, to Creator that is the mind/body/spirit complex, as Logos. When this realization occurs you may then widen the field of “eyeshot,” if you will, infinitely recognizing parts of the Logos throughout the one infinite creation and feeling, with the roots of Mind informing the intuition, the parents aiding their planets in evolution in reaches vast and unknown in the creation, for this process occurs many, many times in the evolution of the creation as an whole.

Quo on January 18, 1993 Wrote:You are each asked to live with one foot in the illusion and one foot in ultimate reality. You straddle a threshold like actors in a play. You play a role here. And, like actors, you must play that role as if it matters. You must involve yourself in the illusion if there is to be learning, otherwise you might as well not have chosen incarnation; and yet, there still must be awareness. Just as the actor must have awareness that he plays to an audience so as not to turn his back on that audience, not to muffle his speech, so you must maintain awareness of your true Self while performing the myriad functions of the human personality.

(08-22-2014, 05:35 PM)vervex Wrote: Beautiful post Gemini Wolf, I couldn't agree more

(08-22-2014, 10:43 PM)Confused Wrote: My only contention is that if indeed the sole purpose of the infinite creation is for the ONE to learn from itself, then it is my solemn duty to relay the deepest and most authentic thoughts (or subjective lessons) of mine, distilled from my experiences, back to the ONE.
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Indeed, there is deep bitterness in my post. That is my authentic inner emotion, currently. However, behind that bitterness, lies a strange and placid kind of acceptance. I do what I do with the most sincere humility and behind my deep frustration, lies profound compassion for all and for my own self.

Much love to you.

(08-23-2014, 09:57 AM)Stranger Wrote: Confused,

The bitterness you feel is an expression of your compassionate and caring nature. I know it's authentic because I've been exactly where you are, and for a very long time. [...]

[...] The entire premise of that approach is founded on a giant misunderstanding of the nature of reality.

Quote:62.20 ↥ Questioner: What is the objective; what does the, shall we say, the leader, the one at the very top of the pecking order in fifth-density Orion, have as an objective? I would like to understand his philosophy with respect to his objectives and plans for what we might call the future or his future?

Ra: I am Ra. This thinking will not be so strange to you. Therefore, we may speak through the densities as your planet has some negatively oriented action in sway at this space/time nexus.

The early fifth-density negative entity, if oriented towards maintaining cohesion as a social memory complex, may in its free will determine that the path to wisdom lies in the manipulation in exquisite propriety of all other-selves. It then, by virtue of its abilities in wisdom, is able to be the leader of fourth-density beings which are upon the road to wisdom by exploring the dimensions of love of self and understanding of self. These fifth-density entities see the creation as that which shall be put in order.

Dealing with a plane such as this third density at this harvesting, it will see the mechanism of the call more clearly and have much less distortion towards plunder or manipulation by thoughts which are given to negatively oriented entities although in allowing this to occur and sending less wise entities to do this work, any successes redound to the leaders.

The fifth density sees the difficulties posed by the light and in this way directs entities of this vibration to the seeking of targets of opportunity such as this one. If fourth-density temptations, shall we say, towards distortion of ego, etc., are not successful the fifth-density entity then thinks in terms of the removal of light.

(08-23-2014, 11:27 PM)manniz Wrote: Confused, that was brutally honest, as it should be.

(08-24-2014, 11:18 AM)Confused Wrote: In my personal dictionary, there is a word for making someone else suffer, unwittingly, for your profit or pleasure, and that Stranger, is the simple word called 'abuse'. I know it is a very tall allegation, and may be preposterous. However, that is my most honest feedback to the ONE, in terms of the landscape of creation as laid out by the LOO. My feedback to the ONE is to stop a system of abuse for the generation of experiences for the ONE to digest and learn from. If it is not possible to do so with the current set of infinite creations, at least, please, O ONE, profit from the lessons gained from this set in terms of not spawning a system that develops a systematically codified structure of abuse.

(08-24-2014, 01:17 PM)manniz Wrote: If honest, lovign souls are jaded so be it. if honest, lovign souls see no purpose to life, so be it. If free, loving souls see no worth, no respect in life, so be it.

(08-24-2014, 01:17 PM)manniz Wrote: True love needs understanding.
By providing honest feedbalc from the ground here in this heavily veiled third density, we are providing understanding to the whole of creation.

It may all be an illusion here, but creation takes it very seriously.

(08-21-2014, 06:40 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I feel that we are here for no real purpose. You could say we share our love and light with the world. But I don't believe that's a purpose. I think we are without purpose, and here to simply experience. There is no right or wrong.