07-25-2013, 07:06 PM
(07-25-2013, 01:03 AM)Karl Wrote:(07-24-2013, 03:45 PM)Tanner Wrote: What does it mean, then, for something to matter? Does that mean that is all that is important? Only the fulfillment of one's desires is important, then?
Nothing inherantly matters/is-important. For something to matter/be-important a choice has to be made.
Since we are individual beings, experiencing individuality, our desires are all we have. Sure further up the chain we are unity, but that's not what we're right here, right now experiencing.
How do you know? Aha we are unity now, you just have the choice whether or not to acknowledge it.
We are not ONLY individual beings though, that is a self-identification made up in one's own mind, an ingrained conceptualization of identity.
Of course, the whole nature of reality cannot be divided from our interaction with it through mind, but that doesn't make it "not real" because the mind is a real experience. You say all we have are desires, but is that really true? You experience nothing but unending desire?
I, personally, think that the view that nothing matters or is important is an escapism from a reality of causes and effects. It is an attempt to negate responsibility, imo. This has nothing to do with karma, but the raw fact that we are all parts interacting with other parts and absolutely everything we do has a significant effect on the whole in some way or other.
There is no nothing, there is always something being moved, being touched and influenced by every and any activity that occurs in existence, so how could anything be meaningless? We choose to devoid life of meaning to have to avoid dealing with the responsibility of the ripples of our actions, or to support the view of our own worthlessness or our absolute worth.
In one way, this can be used to achieve peace, but if one dwells forever in "emptiness" like remaining indefinitely in any other state results in stagnation of consciousness.
Maybe you will find this interesting to read: http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/arc...mm_01.html