03-17-2013, 07:08 PM
(03-17-2013, 03:37 PM)Parsons Wrote: I can see how this would confuse you if taken out of context of the quote. The 'road' of which they speak is referred to the negative path. Viewing the country, the tribe, the biological family as the same as self is an extension of 2nd density thinking. The 2nd density entity views the 'pack' or group of 2nd density beings a LITERALLY themselves, i.e. a predator attacking a packmate is attacking the entity itself, not an 'other' entity. The quote expresses the departure point at which someone is simply 'protecting the pack' by protecting the country-mate in 2nd density thinking and switches over to actual 3rd density STS / the Choice of the negative path/polarity of seeing other entities as 'other' and choosing to control them for the benefit of self.
Thank you for the clarification, though this is the part that I already understand. I understand that the quote was referring to the beings, especially the more primitive ones of this density, which operate within the illusion in such a way. I was trying to extrapolate from this and I think this was my error.
(03-17-2013, 09:34 AM)Aureus Wrote: It's not only about realizing oneness on a conceptual basis. One could accept being part of one great being, but still not "live" it. Even the darkest of STS-entities can have this knowledge/belief.
Only when the one begins to cultivate an acceptance free of any conditions, will polarity be gained. It's about seeing the self in everything, not limited to realizing one's place in a system and therefore contribute.
That is the beginning of the road to full realization, the heart is the springboard..
I had a very interesting experience in late 2010. I was in a very deep trance state, the ego was completely dissolved, and I then came into contact with a higher dimensional being. This entity was positive in nature and it was a very blissful experience. While I'm not entirely sure the identity of this being, in hindsight it appears as though it was what you would call the higher self. I learned very much, whoever it was. The understanding of oneness, from this point onward, was not conceptual - it is visceral, it is real. I have understood this to be the truth and the apparent reality of separation to be illusory; though since I am still operating within the framework of the illusion, the understanding is at times diminished to a conceptual level. As I've said in an earlier post, I enjoy all aspects of reality - both the illusion and what lies behind the curtain, so to speak - there is value in both.
Acceptance free of any conditions is a very good point you make - total acceptance is how I reached such a deep trance state to begin with. It was through the methodology of what is called tantra, which, to oversimplify, is completely about acceptance and 'letting go'.
There is one more thing I'd like to add about that specific experience. I was asked whether or not I would like to return. I chose to to help awaken others. I chose the path of Bodhisattva. My polarity, at that time, was almost purely positive; it has since diminished though I still seem to be innately oriented towards service to others, even if sometimes I falter.
(03-17-2013, 03:14 PM)Ankh Wrote:(03-17-2013, 09:07 AM)We are God Wrote:(03-17-2013, 12:09 AM)Ankh Wrote:Ra, 19.15 Wrote:The new or initial third-density entity has this innocent, shall we say, bias or distortion towards viewing those in the family, the society, as you would call, perhaps, country, as self. Thus though a distortion not helpful for progress in third density, it is without polarity.
The break becomes apparent when the entity perceives other-selves as other-selves and consciously determines to manipulate other-selves for the benefit of the self. This is the beginning of the road of which you speak.
On one level, I understand completely. On another level, this confuses me greatly. I don't just view family as self - I view all as self. I am you. I am Ra. I am all things. This doesn't seem like the beginning of the road; in fact, there doesn't seem to be any road at all. Everything is a vibration, a movement; there is only movement - but since there is only movement and no other possibility, there is actually never any movement at all - does this make sense?
No.
Haha. I see - it is something which is very difficult to describe in words. I will attempt to explain.
In each moment, we are either ascending or descending, so to speak; we are either becoming more human or more machine-like, more mindful or more mindless. We are never still - stillness is an illusion. This is simple enough to understand, isn't it?
The only possibility is that we move in one direction or another, the only possibility is that we change. Change is the only constant, but this is where it gets interesting - since there is only change and that fact never changes, change can be said to not exist at all - change is actually the illusion.
So, on one level, there is only change and stillness is illusory; on another level, there is only stillness and change is illusory. It seems paradoxical because both are simultaneously true, but it is more akin to polarity. The reality is change, which is often related to the feminine - it is a dancing. Within this feminine reality is the masculine, which is the unchanging and steady. The 'seen' is the feminine and the 'seer' is the masculine; the 'world' is the feminine and the 'witness' is the masculine.
I hope this makes more sense.

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