01-11-2013, 07:45 PM
(01-11-2013, 10:56 AM)ShinAr Wrote:(01-11-2013, 10:07 AM)Cyan Wrote: Shin refers to the left as the absolute 100% polarized left and the absolute 100% polarized right. Kind of in a way looking at the outcome of polarizations instead of the step of polarization.
Not at all Cyan.
Yes to all Shin.
What? Okay sorry.
Getting to the point now. Thank you also for politely referring to me
Quote:The left path teaching is that balance is a matter of being exactly what you just said about the middle path.
Exactly, the balance between the extremes is the one extreme, the other extreme is lacking balance between the extremes focus/lackfocus You refer to the one extreme (middle path) purely as the whole thing, which it is, but only because it is a beam looked at as spot. If you can construct the logic around the core i'm referring to here you may be able to track my reference without being, well, over the top direct about it
Short of it is, believing in any form of requirement to move (salvation, divine this divine that etc etc etc is one extreme) the other is knowing that all is in perfect balance no matter what you do. In the end. One tries to retain balance and sees balance as something worth working for (one extreme) other sees everything always in balance so nothing is worth working for (if inbalance is neccesary for what is required at that time then inbalance is sought).
Hope that makes kind of sense. I feel a bit groggy
Quote: The left hand path is often referred to, probably even more accurately, by the modern forms of paganism as the Middle Path for that very reason.
I think its referred to as that because of what I just said.
The whole I SHALL BRING BALANCE TO THE UNIVERSE! kind of pah pah power rangers style religious mindset compared to say, meh, i'll go over there and enjoy some debauchery, it will produce the best outcome just as much as you "bringing stuff to balance". Both being examples of how people perceive the paths in popular dialogue that I observe but rarely the truth or near to it but pointing to it still.
Hopefully useful.
Quote:We see the extremes of either path to be the problems with society, and we also realize that finding a place close to center and tending toward the left is what one would seek as balance.
That would fit with what I think is the left hand path view of the world.
Quote:Experiencing this world, it would be impossible to experience both paths, or STS and STO, and the quickest path to higher light being is tending toward the left hand teachings simply because one is freed from the deceiving and manipulating teachings of the right hand, becoming enabled to learn and grasp truth more quickly.
Why do you feel the system around you is manipulating you in a deceiving way?
I think its manipulations are simple and fundementally working for the system itself that is to say, logical for them. The fact that I may have, at times, trouble understanding the complexity of why it is logical for them, doesnt mean that they are trying to deceive or manipulate, only that I dont get why in their view it is better to work without being my ally. Then I can convince them that being my ally is better than being my enemy and thus gain a new ally. Thats why To me, the logical question is, why do you feel the system is manipulating you, instead of seeing it as a opportunity to ask, why do some operators within the system not consider you their ally and let you in on why they do what they do.
(01-11-2013, 10:07 AM)Cyan Wrote: Most admit that STS (left hand) is the end result,
Quote:I do not agree with the Ra Material if it correlates the Left hand Path with STS.
I think the proper thing is that left hand path is 3 thirds overlapping with sts one third with sto, like in kind of a skill tree style from where you pick the "options of what my life is to hold active now" and right hand path is 3 thirds STO. So that sticking to right hand path exclusivly, will land you in STO harvest. But sticking to lef thand path exclusively, will not land you in STS harvest, for that you need STO as well or you remain socially alone which means insufficient for green ray.
So, I think STO harvest is right hand path easier
STS harvest is harder because it requires somewhat using both polarities for the end result of purely STS outcome polarity.
Does that make sense, because i feel it does.
Quote:I think both are found on both paths. As you noted, it is simply the extremes of either that create the problems of imbalance. Tendencies toward one or the other if not extreme should probably not be defined or designated as their extremes.
I noted that it creates imbalance, i never note that it is a problem, people read that it is a problem into it, i not taht MY imbalance is a problem TO ME but imbalance in itself is NOT a problem.
To the second part, no it shouldnt, it should be designated as the one extreme (The tendencies towards extremes / tendencies towards centrals)
Quote:When we are balanced near center those extremes should not be what define us.
Agreed
Quote:(01-11-2013, 10:07 AM)Cyan Wrote: but a great majority want to progress along the right hand path to the very very end of the road, and then have a quick jump to the left right as they end the game.
But I think if everyone was left hand, there would be just as little choice as there is if everyone was right hand.
I think that the progression on either path is not made in a sudden leap.
Agreed, but progression (accumulated wisdom) need not become active (applicated wisdom) until required (at the end). Isnt that the logic that these people would undertake?
Quote:And its not a matter of everyone as a whole body of followers being one or the other. This would not happen because of the Divine Design of evolving consciousness. There will always be fields evolving from lower states of being progressing through the various stages and experiences.
Interesting. Also not really related, i think.
Quote:What you are proposing is the mistaken thinking that there is an already concluded future. Only in that premise could all reach an end level of evolution process.
I seem to see you doing the same like 4 lines up.
Quote:The Left hand Path teaches that Infinity has no end and continues as Mystery. So your proposal would never come to be anyway.
Eeeeeexactly. Douglas Adams anyone? If the reference is too thick, then hitchikers guide to the galaxy, douglas adams, what happens when someone finds out the answer to the universe.
Quote:I am sensing that you are aware of much of this already, where you are in a Luciferian cult. Whether satanic or not, most Luciferian teachings would teach Left Hand doctrine. So I think that maybe you are more testing to see how accurate I am in my profession, or comparing it to what your cult teaches.
Roughly speaking, I'm nto really sure how accurate it is to say i'm "in a cult" anymore than saying that B4 is a cult (Which it is btw, and a good one at that). But if must use the cult word, i'll use it, I'd prefer to use social memory complex, but you know, to each their own wording and what not.
Moving on.
Luciferians don't teach, they reflect what you want are in that situation, thats their point, non shining being the point, remember. Minimum required effort to move, as opposed to the self flagellating maximum teaching (input into the system of false selves) of Christians.
Thats why us folks hang around in net forums instead of walking around streets whipping our backs and nailing ourselves to 2 by 4s.
I'm actually comparing you to you. And seeing how much you change as I change and using that to calculate my interior change, if you must know, as to what I'm studying on the interior its trying to figure out how to guide people into and out of "schizophrenia" and I've come to the conclusion that its essentially a state that only becomes possible if you lie. Its that simple .
Beyond that, the reason I'm in that soc mem complex right now is that I know that when I polarize towards being selfish (gluttonous) its easier to be around people that revel in gluttony (easiest in either junkie/alcoholic/super into sports/games/religious) I've been through alcoholic soc mem complexes (They called it college, seemed to go on forever), sports never appealed to me because of all the adrenaline, Games are fun but Its kind of difficult to have a functional soc mem complex around sitting still at home without it turning into a religious thing, so, logically, religion.
Once that became the obvious next choice in my study of the various mental illnesses and their steps, I would need to do various super gluttonous things (love the self), and I must admit, its easier in places where you can do what you want to yourself as long as you keep your word, than in places where you cant do anything youw ant to yourself, as long as you lie in a group.
Dunno, it felt like a logical step.
Were christians more prone to letting others do what they want and helping them in times of need, I'd probably be in a christian cult. Probably something reformed or protestant. Probably just one of those really big ones with dozens of millions of cultists.
Getting through to the cultists stuff yet? So far I've yet to see anything being taught except others showing me when I lie.
Quote:So, how am I doing so far? lolBetter than you think I think you are doing. Worse than you hope.