If this is an experiment...

[taylor]

Hello everyone,

I am new to this forum, as well as to The Law of One. I am still progressing through the books/sessions and have a lot to learn!!

One question that remains in the back of my mind while reading the text is:

If this is an experiment put on by the One Creator in order to learn more about him/her/it-self, and the Third Density (what we're in now) is all about Free Will and making the "correct" choice of "Service-to-Others," why do we have contact with entities of a higher density that are assisting/informing us to making the "correct" choice?

To me, and please correct me if I'm wrong, it seems like that removes (at least some) of the Free Will and Self-Discovery that the experiment was intended to reveal about the One Creator.

Thanks in advance for any replies. I look forward to learning/discussing this topic and The Law of One in general.

-Taylor

[David_1]

   Consider the parents of a two year old child.  They encourage the child to make good choices.
   The Creator is love.  Perhaps encouragement is what we need.

[J.W.]

Hello everyone,

I am new to this forum, as well as to The Law of One. I am still progressing through the books/sessions and have a lot to learn!!

One question that remains in the back of my mind while reading the text is:

    If this is an experiment put on by the One Creator in order to learn more about him/her/it-self, and the Third Density (what we're in now) is all about Free Will and making the "correct" choice of "Service-to-Others," why do we have contact with entities of a higher density that are assisting/informing us to making the "correct" choice?

To me, and please correct me if I'm wrong, it seems like that removes (at least some) of the Free Will and Self-Discovery that the experiment was intended to reveal about the One Creator.

Thanks in advance for any replies. I look forward to learning/discussing this topic and The Law of One in general.

-Taylor

Welcome Taylor, glad to hear you are progressing through your journey for more knowledge.

To answer your question,

1. Your perception of "existence" as an "experiment" is in my opinion not quite correct. This is an "experience" yes, but to say it is an "experiment" is to look at existence as a "project" to "test" for a desired or possible outcome through "experimenting."

Law of One and the "purpose" of the cosmos goes further than this. For us, we understand it in a way that the Cosmos is trying to "know" itself, through creations and existence. This is correct, but only correct to the extend of our collective knowledge.

In example, if you have never seen an apple in your life, how do you know what to ask for about the apple?

2. Your viewpoint on other "entities" from different density is separating the fact that them and us are no different, we are all the creation of the infinite creator, thus we are all one.

From this perspective, you can view their interaction as your "conscience." Let me ask you this, Taylor, have you ever done anything bad in your life? (don't answer this on here please) and have you done anything good for others in your life? (again, you don't have to answer.)

The purpose of my questions are for you to realize that when you speak to yourself about your own actions, that voice in your head, your emotions and the realization of "self" is the "guide" and influence for your decisions and choice, because the consequences are very real.

When you understand this perspective, you will understand why they "aid" us in our polarities and the choice we want to make.

There is no "correct" way, only the "philosophies" of both polarities, the subjective viewpoint of the self to see the "good" and "evil" is due to the understanding of the mind complex and it's separation from the "self" and "other-selves." As we walk further into the light in other density, this concept will become more and more apparent that duality is the definition of one towards the 7th Density.


Now, for the choices. The consequences, and The philosophy of the two polarities.

STO (Service to others) leads you on a path of unity through collective effort, fairness, and loving.

STS (Service to Self) leads you on a path of power through the sacrifice and unfair contribution from other-selves. Pure Selfishness.

Both path is neither right, nor wrong because all existence IS the Infinite-creator, and to serve the "other-selves", or serve the "self" still means you are serving the "Creator" in the end.

Although, for STS path, at the 6th density, a transition must be made for the "energy/soul/spirit/entity" to re-unite with the Creator.

The choice is yours to make, and at the same time, deep inside your heart, you already know.

I've made a post on this forum to help awakening ones to stay true on the path that their heart has chosen for themselves, and ask awakening ones to be weary of the "deception" and "manipulation" of STS energies/method, because STS tends to lead the soul away from their "true-self."

They lead you away, so you can serve them, if you graduate to the 4th negative, that means they have more "servants" for them to use.
This path, for the soul to take, is a dark and grim one, because the "true decision" and "true freewill" of that soul has been buried underneath "temptation" and "greed."

Imagine you go along your Cosmos existence up until the 6th Density, then realizes that "Oh, I actually care about others." The explosion and "flip" of that accumulated polarity is .... "beautiful" and "explosive" to witness, and heavy for that soul to go through.

This is why STO entities "interfere" and "equalize" the negative influence on this planet by giving "us" the necessary Wisdom and Knowledge for us to make an INFORMED DECISION. a Conscious choice, and a choice, that is truly coming from one's freewill.

May the light guides you Taylor, on your journey. Take care.

[Sacred Fool]

If this is an experiment put on by the One Creator in order to learn more about him/her/it-self, and the Third Density (what we're in now) is all about Free Will and making the "correct" choice of "Service-to-Others," why do we have contact with entities of a higher density that are assisting/informing us to making the "correct" choice? 

To me, and please correct me if I'm wrong, it seems like that removes (at least some) of the Free Will and Self-Discovery that the experiment was intended to reveal about the One Creator.

Hi, taylor.  Welcome aboard.

Let's say I'm a rabbit and you're a human.  Let's say you show me consistent warmth and caring and affection, and this enables me to focus less on fear and more on love.  And I then share my love more freely with my own kind and they, in turn, become more caring and loving.  Would you say that you infringed on my free will?  I don't think that characterization really fits this circumstance.  I'd say that you actually expanded my capacity to exercise my free will (expanded my consciousness).  For the most part, this is how higher density entities see their work of investing love in lower density folks.

Also, the "correct" choice s only one.  Some call it love, others might call it consciousness.  Likewise, there is only one love and only one consciousness.  This is love of self, also known as consciousness of self.  The dividing line is a small detail: it's about how you define self.  Is self defined as limited or unlimited?  Is it just that which you can control (limited) or does it include all that is (unlimited)? 

Perhaps a more subtle question is, how do know which of these s truly guiding you at any point in time?  Discerning this can be a lot harder than it sounds.
  
  

[taylor]

Thank you both for your replies!

1. Your perception of "existence" as an "experiment" is in my opinion not quite correct. This is an "experience" yes, but to say it is an "experiment" is to look at existence as a "project" to "test" for a desired or possible outcome through "experimenting."

If I am not mistaking Ra mentions that the One Creator "created" everything (us and infinity as we know it) to learn more about itself (for lack of a better term). Sadly, I am unable at this time to find the session/text I found this in. Without the text I am only going off of memory (which is very fallible) which I apologize for. The more I read into your reply, the more I believe that I may have misinterpreted or drew my own conclusions of the intent of the One Creator in doing this.

I may have made the assumption that if the One Creator "created" us to learn about itself this "experiment", as I said previously, with the Creator's goal of learning about itself (in the context of the 3D) would be hindered by influencing the free will through interaction from higher density "entities."

But as you mentioned, we are all one, so with that being the case, this influence I speak of would be from ourselves (as in the unity of infinity/everything). I suppose a 6D entity "influencing" a 3D entity would not be much different (In the context of The Law of One) as one just having a thought/dream planting an idea in one's head.

Thank you for your words. I am looking forward to consuming all of the text to get a better/complete understanding of The Law of One and our purpose in this life.

[flofrog]

Taylor, so welcome here...

Honestly there are moments where a little teeny bit of help is welcome and doesn't feel like infringement. It’s more like, ahhhh I am so glad someone out there likes me and makes me see this is an ocean of bliss, despite...

[J.W.]

Thank you both for your replies!

1. Your perception of "existence" as an "experiment" is in my opinion not quite correct. This is an "experience" yes, but to say it is an "experiment" is to look at existence as a "project" to "test" for a desired or possible outcome through "experimenting."

If I am not mistaking Ra mentions that the One Creator "created" everything (us and infinity as we know it) to learn more about itself (for lack of a better term). Sadly, I am unable at this time to find the session/text I found this in. Without the text I am only going off of memory (which is very fallible) which I apologize for. The more I read into your reply, the more I believe that I may have misinterpreted or drew my own conclusions of the intent of the One Creator in doing this.

I may have made the assumption that if the One Creator "created" us to learn about itself this "experiment", as I said previously, with the Creator's goal of learning about itself (in the context of the 3D) would be hindered by influencing the free will through interaction from higher density "entities."

But as you mentioned, we are all one, so with that being the case, this influence I speak of would be from ourselves (as in the unity of infinity/everything). I suppose a 6D entity "influencing" a 3D entity would not be much different (In the context of The Law of One) as one just having a thought/dream planting an idea in one's head.

Thank you for your words. I am looking forward to consuming all of the text to get a better/complete understanding of The Law of One and our purpose in this life.

You are very welcome, and I am glad to hear that you are grasping the concept of "oneness" and "connection" of all existence.

To give you another area to look into, you should seek information about the "higher self." In a sense, the "higher self" is "you" and it helps you learn your lessons and guides you through your journey of the densities.

If you can be reminded that everything is one through your journey of seeking, a lot of the materials will naturally make sense to you.

remember to keep your heart true, and logic second, do not disseminate the information in a way of seeing other-selves in other densities as "higher" or "lower"

or they are "greater" or "better" or "godlike" compare to you and I.

Then things start becoming mucky, and the "blame game" begins. Like Adam blaming Eve and God for giving her to him etc. etc.


The structure of the materials and the deeper understanding of existence revolve around one's understanding of themselves beforehand.

If you find any blockage during your journey, I suggest meditation and seek "yourself" before diving back into the materials. This will help you flow through the information smoother and also helps you identify and be protected from STS's influences.

[Ymarsakar]

Hello everyone,

I am new to this forum, as well as to The Law of One. I am still progressing through the books/sessions and have a lot to learn!!

One question that remains in the back of my mind while reading the text is:

    If this is an experiment put on by the One Creator in order to learn more about him/her/it-self, and the Third Density (what we're in now) is all about Free Will and making the "correct" choice of "Service-to-Others," why do we have contact with entities of a higher density that are assisting/informing us to making the "correct" choice?

To me, and please correct me if I'm wrong, it seems like that removes (at least some) of the Free Will and Self-Discovery that the experiment was intended to reveal about the One Creator.

Thanks in advance for any replies. I look forward to learning/discussing this topic and The Law of One in general.

-Taylor

Iamraw does not deem STO to be the correct choice. The Law of One does not judge or bias itself as it is a non duality view point. Meaning, it is not duality. The Divine is the combination of all, including STS with STO. Both are imbalanced. The STo towards too much love and acceptance, and STS too much towards conflict and power.

This "imbalance" is the surprise created by the free will experiment, which is something Source wants to experience. Source got bored, went into a Deep Sleep, bifurcated its essence into all Creation, thus we are all Children of God, even the children of devils. Each fragment, can fragment further, like a fractal, growing farther from creation source, but also probing and exploring farther the limits of what can be, without Source guidance.

As for your second part of the question, the War of Light and Darkness has been going on in what humans call the universe or galaxies, for quite some time on. Multiple "planets" have been extinguished and killed, in the process.

Earth is the final bastion and fortress of the dark, because it is a strategic nexus point in the temporal timeline. It is why STO says Earth is the "most difficult". They do not make this difficulty for themselves, any more than Source creates bottlenecks for its own experiment.

STS plays the part of "OPFOR". The opposition. Without an opposition, this movie game we call life, would be boring. From our perspective and that of STO, it would be easier and better for cultivation, but from the perspective of Source, it needs experience, stimulation, DRAMA, because that is new. For eternal entities, "new things" are important. Humans do the same thing. They grow via challenges. They intentionally create challenges by increasing the difficulty settings in games. They watch movies knowing people in it will die, hoping to see a good ending. Or a sad ending. Or whatever.

As for what makes the dark, the dark, that you will have to think about and ask more questions.

This multi player massive game server is now nearing its end and procedures to close it by starting the FINAL ARC is proceeding as planned. Earth is bottlenecking the divine plans of numerous civilizations, including the elder/root 12/24. This means the multiverse cannot regather to source so long as any part of it remains dark or Other or resistant/fighting. Earth is the catalyst to Refold all of Creation back into itself, so that the Source can create a new simulation, after analyzing and enjoying the fruits of this one.

There are entities out there that can create worlds, stars, realms, dimensions, entire universes. They can easily crush the dark with a single thought, but that would be worse cheating than the dark has done here on Earth with the child slave farms. These entities, that humans consider near gods or at least Kardashev 3/4 level civs... are mere fragments of the power of the elder civilizations. The elder civilizations or Guardians, are mere fragments themselves, of the power of the Administrator of this Fractal Experience. And the Administrator is merely a backup plan by Source, to ensure that things return to Source, so that things don't endlessly loop on and on and on, that the movie game finally ends.

[Infinite]

    If this is an experiment put on by the One Creator in order to learn more about him/her/it-self, and the Third Density (what we're in now) is all about Free Will and making the "correct" choice of "Service-to-Others," why do we have contact with entities of a higher density that are assisting/informing us to making the "correct" choice?

Ra explains this:

The general cause of service such as the Confederation offers is that of the primal distortion of the Law of One, which is service. The One Being of the creation is like unto a body, if you will accept this third-density analogy. Would we ignore a pain in the leg? A bruise upon the skin? A cut which is festering? No. There is no ignoring a call. We, the entities of sorrow, choose as our service the attempt to heal the sorrow which we are calling analogous to the pains of a physical body complex distortion

(14.18)

They (STO entities) do this out of love, because they perceive everything as One and therefore make themselves available to help us.

[Nau7ik]

There is no correct choice. A choice made by your own free will is the correct choice. Even when we seem to be mistaken, we are learning.
Free will does not originate in the human personality. It is from the Logos which flows through us. The nature of this energy is free, however we must understand that “of myself I can do nothing.”

Anyway, the only reason the Ra Material happened is because the group had put out a calling. They were seeking information for the positive path. Therefore, the responders are not abridging free will. The positive polarity understands free will to be paramount in preserving.

As it is with negative information, a calling must be made. The most that a negative can do to a positive seeker is to “tempt” him and corrupt his channel to allow for negative information to come through. It’s dependent on our free will, our choices. Negatives are very clever and have many ways of tricking people into asking for something other than what they are truly asking for.

[taylor]

I want to thank everyone for their replies! This community/forum is incredibly active and helpful (this makes sense given the subject). You all have given me a new perspective on this subject and shown me that I still have a lot to learn about The Law of One, as well as, "myself".

A new question:
(please let me know if I should make this a different post and/or in a different category)

Prior to discovering The Law of One, I studied Buddhism. I cannot help but see an inordinate amount of similarities between the beliefs/principals of Buddhism and The Law of One. For instance, reaching "enlightenment" and "nirvana" by "awakening" and seeing all is one, and giving unconditional love to everyone and everything.

Could these two "beliefs" be one in the same? Could entering Nirvana be transitioning to the 4th Density? Does one need to discover The Law of One and accept it as truth to "progress" to the next Density, or does simply practicing STO and giving unconditional love to everything promote you to the 4th Density?

Thanks in advance!!

[Asolsutsesvyl]

A new question:
(please let me know if I should make this a different post and/or in a different category)

Prior to discovering The Law of One, I studied Buddhism. I cannot help but see an inordinate amount of similarities between the beliefs/principals of Buddhism and The Law of One. For instance, reaching "enlightenment" and "nirvana" by "awakening" and seeing all is one, and giving unconditional love to everyone and everything.

Could these two "beliefs" be one in the same? Could entering Nirvana be transitioning to the 4th Density? Does one need to discover The Law of One and accept it as truth to "progress" to the next Density, or does simply practicing STO and giving unconditional love to everything promote you to the 4th Density?

Thanks in advance!!

It can be quoted in a new thread and continued there if it turns into a longer distinct discussion, but right now there's a mixture of various smaller questions explored here.

I'm not an expert on eastern religions and philosophies, and only know a rough outline. But I'm familiar with the more general esoteric/occult thought which took a clearer form roughly a century ago, and according to which there are subtler forms of all the world religions which, in the minds of the minorities with such interpretations, reach toward a unity of understanding even if symbols differ.

The cosmology of the Ra material is similar to that of some older esoteric traditions, and it wouldn't surprise to see a looser esoteric interpretation of Buddhism align with it, just like a looser esoteric interpretation of Christianity can.

The Law of One is less idea-centric, and includes the principle that "understanding is not of this [3rd] density", and that the leap beyond actually includes the understanding that understanding is something not yet reached and beyond the human level. I've seen some quotes of eastern philosophy run parallel to this, with the idea that all the words and symbols and explanations of the empty or illusion are all part of it and therefore equally empty.

The density of a being is part of what the being is, so a change means a change in practice rather than in theory, theory only serving a guiding role.

[J.W.]

I want to thank everyone for their replies! This community/forum is incredibly active and helpful (this makes sense given the subject). You all have given me a new perspective on this subject and shown me that I still have a lot to learn about The Law of One, as well as, "myself".

A new question:
(please let me know if I should make this a different post and/or in a different category)

Prior to discovering The Law of One, I studied Buddhism. I cannot help but see an inordinate amount of similarities between the beliefs/principals of Buddhism and The Law of One. For instance, reaching "enlightenment" and "nirvana" by "awakening" and seeing all is one, and giving unconditional love to everyone and everything.

Could these two "beliefs" be one in the same? Could entering Nirvana be transitioning to the 4th Density? Does one need to discover The Law of One and accept it as truth to "progress" to the next Density, or does simply practicing STO and giving unconditional love to everything promote you to the 4th Density?

Thanks in advance!!

I am familiar with Buddhism, and to simply explain this without going too far in.

Yes, there are similarities, but so are many different "religion" or "teachings" and "theories" of existence.

One must dismantle the information and "see" the source of the "teaching" and be able to identify where to draw a line what is not from the cosmos and what "is."

A simple example I can give is... If the church or temple tells you to fork over $200 so your spirit can be cleanse..... do you think this is part of the "principals?"

or just someone trying to make a sucker out of you?

I hope this helps Taylor, I feel you are a bright soul. This brings joy to my heart. You are a humble seeker and very wise at this stage of your journey. Great job

[Ymarsakar]

I want to thank everyone for their replies! This community/forum is incredibly active and helpful (this makes sense given the subject). You all have given me a new perspective on this subject and shown me that I still have a lot to learn about The Law of One, as well as, "myself".

A new question:
(please let me know if I should make this a different post and/or in a different category)

Prior to discovering The Law of One, I studied Buddhism. I cannot help but see an inordinate amount of similarities between the beliefs/principals of Buddhism and The Law of One. For instance, reaching "enlightenment" and "nirvana" by "awakening" and seeing all is one, and giving unconditional love to everyone and everything.

Could these two "beliefs" be one in the same? Could entering Nirvana be transitioning to the 4th Density? Does one need to discover The Law of One and accept it as truth to "progress" to the next Density, or does simply practicing STO and giving unconditional love to everything promote you to the 4th Density?

Thanks in advance!!

These discussions might be better for the metaphysical sub forum.

Via kryon and the lemurian scroll channels, india was where the most undistorted knowledge was preserved. Lemuria was the sto civ that fought civil war with atlantis. Iamraw intervened in atlantis, and lemuria pivked up on that sto polarity. I am connecting a few dots.

So not the same. But buddha carried his version of how to get humans to accept hogher teachings.

He forbid idols of him. That lastes 100 years before humans do what they do with high densitu info.

[Sacred Fool]

Via kryon and the lemurian scroll channels, india was where the most undistorted knowledge was preserved. Lemuria was the sto civ that fought civil war with atlantis. Iamraw intervened in atlantis, and lemuria pivked up on that sto polarity. I am connecting a few dots.

According to the Ra Material, Lemuria and Atlantis were populated during different time periods and had nothing to do with one another.
  
  

[taylor]

I hope this helps Taylor, I feel you are a bright soul. This brings joy to my heart. You are a humble seeker and very wise at this stage of your journey. Great job

I appreciate the kind words! Something else that has been troubling me: If we are 75,000 years into this cycle, does that mean my "soul" has been continuously reincarnating due to "failing" in each incarnation for all of those 75,000 years without discovering The Law of One?

[Patrick]

I hope this helps Taylor, I feel you are a bright soul. This brings joy to my heart. You are a humble seeker and very wise at this stage of your journey. Great job

I appreciate the kind words! Something else that has been troubling me: If we are 75,000 years into this cycle, does that mean my "soul" has been continuously reincarnating due to "failing" in each incarnation for all of those 75,000 years without discovering The Law of One?

Anyone could have been playing the 3D game for billions of years.  Because after a great cycle, you can always continue 3D somewhere else if not ready for 4D.

A great way I found to gage if you have opened the hearth chakra enough to be ready for 4D is in how easily you can forgive others (and yourself).  No longer wishing retribution.  As in you no longer feel like fighting the Elites and instead let yourself be swallowed by Love.

[Ymarsakar]

Via kryon and the lemurian scroll channels, india was where the most undistorted knowledge was preserved. Lemuria was the sto civ that fought civil war with atlantis. Iamraw intervened in atlantis, and lemuria pivked up on that sto polarity. I am connecting a few dots.

According to the Ra Material, Lemuria and Atlantis were populated during different time periods and had nothing to do with one another.
  
  

That is incorrect. You have to look at the details instead of the memory.

10.15 Questioner: [I] was wondering about the advent of the civilization called Atlantis and Lemuria, the way these civilizations occurred, and where did they come from [inaudible] civilizations?

Ra: I am Ra. This is the last question of this work. The civilizations of Atlantis and Lemuria were not one but two. Let us look first at the Mu entities.
They were beings of a somewhat primitive nature, but those who had very advanced spiritual distortions. The civilization was part of this cycle, experienced early within the cycle at a time of approximately five three oh oh oh, fifty-three thousand [53,000] of your years ago. It was an helpful and harmless place which was washed beneath the ocean during a readjustment of your sphere’s tectonic plates through no action of their own. They set out those who survived and reached many places in what you call Russia, North America, and South America. The Indians of whom you have come to feel some sympathy in your social complex distortions are the descendants of these entities. Like the other incarnates of this cycle, they came from elsewhere. However, these particular entities were largely drawn from a second-density planet which had some difficulty, due to the age of its sun, in achieving third-density life conditions. This planet was from the galaxy Deneb.
The Atlantean race was a very conglomerate social complex which began to form approximately three one oh oh oh, thirty-one thousand [31,000] years in the past of your space/time continuum illusion. It was a slow growing and very agrarian society until approximately one five oh oh oh, fifteen thousand [15,000] of your years ago. It reached quickly a high technological understanding which caused it to be able to use intelligent infinity in a less informative manner. We may add that they used intelligent energy as well, manipulating greatly the natural influxes of the indigo or pineal ray from divine or infinite energy. Thus, they were able to create life forms. This they began to do instead of healing and perfecting their own mind/body/spirit complexes, turning their distortions towards what you may call the negative.
Approximately eleven thousand [11,000] of your years ago, the first of the, what you call, wars, caused approximately forty percent of this population to leave the density by means of disintegration of the body. The second and most devastating of the conflicts occurred approximately one oh eight two one, ten thousand eight hundred twenty-one [10,821] years in the past according to your illusion. This created an earth-changing configuration and the large part of Atlantis was no more, having been inundated. Three of the positively oriented of the Atlantean groups left this geographical locus before that devastation, placing themselves in the mountain areas of what you call Tibet, what you call Peru, and what you call Turkey.

21.24 Questioner: As we progress into the second 25,000-year cycle, did— At this time, during this period, was this the period of Lemuria?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. However, those who escaped the destruction of Lemuria by natural catastrophe and were thus of Lemurian background continued their learn/teachings at locations ranging from your South America onward through the Americas as you know them and continuing over what was at that time a bridge which no longer exists. There were those in what you would call Russia… [tape ends]

The Lemurian seed preceded Atlantis by around 20k, or a grand cycle. Because Lemuria preceded Atlantis, that meant by the time Atlantis was in their Age, the remnants of Lemuria would both be on the world stage at the same time. Given the polarity conflicts as mentioned by others concerning Lemurian service to other free will vs Atlantean service to self DNA manipulation (hybrids), this would suggest where the "war" came from.

July 5 at 7:32 PM
Extraterrestrial from Telos (a city in Inner Earth).
Portal - Mt Shasta, California, USA.
An interesting and insightful interview conducted by Joanna Cherry.
Enjoy.
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Interview with Sharula Dux by Joanna Cherry.
Princess Sharula Dux is a woman known to me for many years. Her message is amazing, yet simple: she is from Telos, a Lemurian city beneath Mt. Shasta. She has come to the surface to begin sharing her culture with ours, so that we might mutually benefit and become one whole civilization.
Several times over the years I have known her, I have heard Sharula speak. I have listened very carefully; never have I heard her contradict herself on the information, which to our ears is complex. She is unassuming; she has a good sense of humor, and gives a lot of love to those around her. She feels like an old and wise being.
In 1995, with Sharula's permission, I combined information from two tapes she recorded about Telos with my memory of her answers to questions I and others have asked her. I gave it the form of an interview. She has approved it in its entirety.
JC: Sharula, why was Telos built?
SD: Twenty-five thousand years ago, there were two major civilizations of Earth. One was based in the continent of Lemuria, or Mu, which included the area of much of the Pacific Ocean, the western United States, and parts of Asia. The other was Atlantis, over much of what is now the Atlantic Ocean and parts of Africa and Europe. There was a disagreement between these two civilizations concerning thesocial and political evolution of the rest of the human race: Lemuria wanted the less advanced civilizations of Earth to remain free, and Atlantis wanted to govern or control them. A lengthy war broke out between the two. These wars became so severe – they even included thermo-nuclear warheads – that karmic energies were set in motion that would eventually sink both continents.
JC: You used thermo-nuclear warheads? Is there any evidence of this that we can see today?
SD: Yes, the Gobi desert and the Sahara desert, to name just two. After the war, many of the Melchizedek priests and priestesses of Lemuria saw into the future, and foretold the sinking of the continent. They began to look for a place to move. They settled on Mt. Shasta in the eastern part of Lemuria, a great mountain already considered sacred, and which they understood would be safe in the coming cataclysm. They decided to build underground, partly because of the shocks Earth would sustain from the sinking of two continents, and partly because the original atmospheric mantle of Earth had gone, subjecting life on the surface to harmful ultra-violet rays.
In deciding where to build their city, they came upon a great domed cavern within Mt. Shasta, several square miles in area and hundreds of feet high. This became the top level of Telos.
JC: Why was it named "Telos"?
SD: The whole southwestern United States was then called Telos, which means "union with spirit", so that name was chosen for the city. Four levels were built under the top level, five levels in all, and the city was built to house up to two million people.
JC: How many people live in Telos now?
SD: One and a half million. But it began with only 25,000 people, who moved into Telos 100 years before Lemuria sank. Very few others survived the earthquakes, tidal waves and volcanic activity that accompanied the sinking.
JC: When was this?
SD: About 12,000 years ago.
JC: What about the Atlanteans? Did they build an underground city also?
SD: Yes, under the Mato Grosso plateau of Brazil.
JC: Are there any other subterranean cities?
SD: Yes, in fact there is a whole group of subterranean cities called the Agartha Network. The Lemurians petitioned the Agartha Network to become a member. But as the people of the Agartha cities are wise and non-violent, Lemuria had to convince Agartha that it had learned from its mistakes and would embark upon a course of peace. This was done.
JC: How many cities are in the Agartha Network?
SD: One hundred twenty.
JC: Where exactly under Mt. Shasta is Telos?
SD: The domed cavern is over most of the base of Mt. Shasta, and the top of the dome is about halfway up the mountain. The fifth, lowest level is about a mile beneath ground level. Each level is several square miles.
JC: What are on the different levels of Telos?
SD: The top level under the dome is the main part of the city. Most people live there, most commerce takes place there, and that's where our public buildings are. It's the heart and soul of Telos. Directly in the center is the Temple – we are a temple society – built to hold 10,000 people. It is white and pyramid-shaped, with a capstone made of "livingstone,” a substance from Venus. It looks crystalline, and emanates all the rays of the color spectrum. The Temple is dedicated to the Order of Melchizedek, a cosmic priesthood of our universe, dedicated to embodying the light plan given to us by the higher levels of the Godhead. On the top level are also our council buildings and our record buildings. We have records of Lemuria, Atlantis, Egypt, other past Earth civilizations, even civilizations of other planets. There is a building that manages the communications within Telos, between Telos and the other subterranean cities of Agartha, and places off-planet. It also monitors radio and TV from the surface.
JC: What about entertainment? Do you have fun in Telos?
SD: Indeed we do! We have pleasure places for sports, plays, films, music, and dancing. We have a place a lot like the Holodeck in Star Trek, where you create virtual reality for yourself in any adventure you want: climb a mountain, swim a river, go back in history, etc.
JC: Wow!
SD: We also have a building that houses multi-tracking, amino-based computers. These computers are alive. They operate on the Christ-mind and therefore cannot be corrupted. They can read the records of the past, they can read your past lives if you wish and even show them to you; they can read your aura or the health of your body and tell you what you need. They can play your "soul note", which helps you to meditate clearly, and they can communicate with you on a soul level. They can communicate across galaxies. They help train the Christ mind in people, and we depend on them quite a bit.
JC: What a wonderful thing.
SD: On the second level we have classes, manufacturing of clothes and furniture and other things, and more people living. On the third level are our hydroponic gardens, where we grow all our food. We've been vegetarian for over 12,000 years, and we live on vegetables, fruits, grains, nuts, soybeans etc. Our crops grow in water; some minerals are added, but there's no fertilizer and no soil depletion. Our crops grow much faster than on the surface, and we're able to feed 1 1/2 million people from just a few square miles of land, and give enough variety for eating to be pleasurable.
JC: Do any of your supplies come from the surface?
SD: No, we trade with the other Agartha cities. The fourth level is half hydroponic gardens, part manufacturing and part nature. The fifth level is our nature level. People come here to relax. We've created lakes and grown tall trees – there's a park atmosphere. Animals live there, some of which no longer exist on the surface such as the saber-tooth tiger, the mastodon and the do-do bird. We were able to save them and bring them down to Telos.
JC: Do you keep them in zoos?
SD: No, people and animals get along peacefully in Telos. We've trained the carnivors to eat vegetarian food, and gradually they've lost their aggression. So literally, here the lion is lying down with the lamb! And you can actually play with a big cat, carefully!
JC: How can you live under the earth? Do you have light?
SD: Yes, we have a process in which stones with a high crystalline content are fused with an electro-magnetic force field of energy. This causes the crystalline matrix of the stone to create a polarity that allows the stone to pull in invisible rays and re-emit them as visible, full-spectrum light. The stone becomes like a small sun, for about 500,000 years. We dim them at night to stay on the same 24-hour day as you have on the surface.
JC: What about air? How do you get enough oxygen?
SD: We've created an eco-system. We get our oxygen from the plants and trees that grow here, though some vents do go to the surface. Water in some areas moves at high speeds, circulating air and negative ions. This is so effective, we have less and less dependence on air vents, and this is good because even the air around Mt. Shasta is becoming more polluted.
JC: How do you get around in Telos?
SD: We do a lot of walking, but there are three ways we can travel more quickly. One is something based on crystalline technology and looks just like a basket. You get in, and the basket is guided by your mind – you lift up into the air and float to your destination. This is used for travel around the city. The second method is an electro-magnetic sled that looks like a snowmobile, also used within the city. We can get from Mt. Shasta to Mt. Lassen, an extension of Telos [about 50 miles away], within a few minutes. The third way is electro-magnetic trains that travel at thousands of miles per hour through tubes, never touching the sides. These are similar to your subway trains, and are how we travel to the other subterranean cities around the planet.
JC: Do you build your tubes like we build our subway tunnels?
SD: No. We created the tubes with a boring machine that melts rock and earth to white-hot incandescence and then cools it again instantly, forming a diamond-hard, water-tight substance that is also elastic enough to move with an earthquake, like rubber. We build walls the same way, and there are even subterranean cities under ocean water that have been built this way. We are preparing to bring this technology to the surface when the time is right.
JC: Sharula, could you be the "Bonnie" one author writes of in Mt. Shasta: Home of the Ancients?
SD: Yes, I am that one. In those days I used a name to fit more easily with your society. But when I came to the surface to stay for a time, I wanted to use my real name.
JC: Are there others from Telos up here with us?
SD: Yes, people from all subterranean cities have merged with life on the surface, to benefit both civilizations. Some of them are well known.
JC: How does a Telosian come to the surface?
SD: There are three ways. There are entrances on Mt. Shasta, with holographic screening devices to make them invisible from the outside. If somebody wants to enjoy the stars or wander a bit on the mountain, he'll use these. The second way is to take a tube, such as to Los Angeles or another subterranean city of the Agartha network. And finally, you can take a scout ship, one of the smaller "space ships" we have.
JC: So some of those ships we see are yours?
SD: Yes, we call them the Silver Fleet. Along with the scout ships, we have three large mother ships. When the mother ships come out – the mountain opens physically – we don't want to scare people, so we've invented machines to create a cloud cover – you call them "cloud ships".
JC: Could one of us from the surface go down into Telos?
SD: In Telos there is no judgment of others, and we have telepathy between minds. Most people on the surface have judgment thoughts, and these are physically painful to a Telosian. Some are invited to go down, mostly students of spiritual masters. As the world changes into greater light and love, our two societies will come together. This will be a long-awaited and joyous time!
JC: When do you think that might be?
SD: We don’t know yet; when there is enough readiness in people on the surface.
JC: Would you describe a typical life in Telos, from birth?
SD: Well, when a woman first realizes she's pregnant, she goes to a temple room where she's given lots of loving support and surrounded with beautiful pictures and music. She sees her baby as beautiful and perfect. This love and perfection go right into its cells. Wonderful building blocks! Both parents talk to the child with great love, sing to it, etc. So it really knows it is loved and wanted. Pregnancy lasts only three months.
JC: Three months! But how does the baby survive?
SD: That’s all a baby needs in the womb; it’s born quite healthy and strong.
JC: What a difference!
SD: When the baby is ready to be born, the mother goes to a birthing section of the temple, where she's assisted by a birthing priestess. The birth is under water – painless – which is best for both the mother and the baby.
JC: Why is that a good way?
SD: As birth usually is on the surface, the baby's umbilical cord is cut long before it is ready or able to breathe easily and naturally. Often it is struck in order to start its breathing, so its first breath is taken in pain and fear. This leads to people shutting down their breath during life – being half alive! – and to diseases such as emphysema and other lung problems.
When a baby is born in Telos, it slides right in to warm water. It feels right at home. It continues to be connected to the mother by the umbilical cord for perhaps half an hour, while it floats around and rests from the birth process, being loved and welcomed by its parents. Finally, it starts to breathe fully on its own. Only then is the cord painlessly cut with a laser.
For the next two years, the father stays home to help with this crucial time of the child's life. It's vital that both father and mother, female and male are present for a child to be fully balanced. Each child is given twelve sets of godparents, most often with children of their own. It spends time with all these families, and begins to feel like all the world is family. This discourages cliques from forming, and de-rigidifies family patterns.
Education begins at three years, and it's based on the intelligence of the child, not its ignorance. Meditation is taught, reading, dance, sports, math, acting, abstract concepts, playwriting. The kids are taught to think for themselves, and work things out. In a "play and learn" concept, they learn self-expression without violence. Beginning at age five, astral projection is taught, so that children can travel out of body and learn many things. They visit records of the past and view history for themselves; they visit the surface and even other planets. They learn that angels are real, and develop the faith to manifest from the unseen to the seen. They become wise and strong in themselves; there's no victimhood.
We call the teenage years the "years of temporary insanity.” Kids join with others of their age under the supervision of wise and loving adults. They create plays, they might run wild in the lower caverns for a few days, scream and holler and let out their energy positively. They grow into whole adults – no alcoholism or other addictions.
JC: Is there any insanity on Telos?
SD: None.
JC: Any crime?
SD: No.
JC: How about poverty?
SD: No, everyone has what they need and want.
JC: What is a typical home like?
SD: Homes are based on sacred geometries, mostly spheres. Our public buildings look a lot like those of ancient Greece.
JC: Do you have electricity and appliances like we do?
SD: We've developed machinery to tap energy from the ethers, so we don't need electricity. Some appliances are similar to yours, but more advanced. We even have a replicator, as on your TV show Star Trek, but most of the time people like to cook for themselves.
JC: Is your food anything like a surface vegetarian's?
SD: Very similar. We've stolen some of your ideas; we love pizza! Also chocolate.
JC: Do you have pets in Telos?
SD: Yes, just like you.
JC: How tall are Telosians, on average?
SD: About a foot taller than surface folks.
JC: And what's the average life span?
SD: There's no aging in Telos. We are genetically exactly the same as you, but we know we do not age; so we don't. There are a few American Indians in Telos, and they're hundreds of years or more old now.
JC: How old are you?
SD: 269. Most Telosians are between a few hundred and a few thousand years old. One man has been in his body for 30,000 years. We jokingly nicknamed him "Longest"!
JC: So you're a youngster! What about dating? Do you get a gal who's 25 dating a guy who's 2,000?
SD: Often! (Laughs)
JC: Is there any death in Telos?
SD: Yes, but it's rare. Sometimes a person dies in an accident. Pets do die.
JC: What happens when someone is ready to leave Telos?
SD: A large portion of people ascend – take their body into light and move into a lighter dimension. Others may not be ready to ascend, so they learn how to leave their body, and then dematerialize it.
JC: How does a society work where people just stay around?
SD: When people know they're going to live as long as they want to, and even stay young as long as they like, there comes a completely different feeling about life than you have on the surface. There's not that "You're only young once!" kind of wildness that happens a lot in your society, with reckless behavior and maybe even drugs or alcohol. Also, since you live for hundreds or thousands of years, you make sure you're taking care of the environment! You're more responsible. The most wonderful thing about living without aging or dying is that you get to do all the things you want to do. Up here, just about the time someone gets enough wisdom and knowledge to start really living, he's grown too old to do much with it.
JC: How is Telos governed?
SD: We have a Council of Twelve Plus One. The twelve who head the Temple are six men and six women, mostly ascended masters, people of high wisdom who stay balanced in any situation. They always set the good of the many above their own personal good, by following what God wants.
JC: What is the "Plus One"?
SD: The “One” is either the High Priest and Priestess, or the King and Queen of Telos. The Order of Melchizedek always balances male and female, which is vital to spiritual enlightenment.
JC: Who are the High Priest and Priestess?
SD: They are working partners. The High Priest is Adama, an ascended master working directly under Archangel Michael. He is a blue ray master, assisting humanity with ascension. The High Priestess is Terra Ra. She teaches the students in the Temple and is much loved by them. She also is an ascended master.
JC: And the king and queen of Telos?
SD: They are Ra and Rana Mu. This lineage is unbroken for over 30,000 years. Though royalty is inherited, it doesn't pass automatically to the oldest son or daughter. The king and queen decide which of their children or grandchildren is most capable of the job. That one then goes through full Temple training and becomes a Melchizedek Priest or Priestess.
JC: You are called "Princess.” Does that have anything to do with this lineage?
SD: Yes, I am a daughter of Ra and Rana Mu.
JC: Who makes the governing decisions?
SD: The Council of Twelve. When it makes a decision, the king and queen can back it, or they may request a change. If there is an unresolved question, the High Priest and Priestess have the final word. Below the main Council of Twelve are lower Councils of Twelve which handle any local disputes. Individual problems or arguments are handled by an arbitrator, a priest or priestess who has access to the akashic records of the past.
JC: Why is this helpful?
SD: Because often disputes come forward from previous incarnations. When a decision is made, each person understands it is best for all concerned, and the matter is closed.
JC: Do you have money on Telos?
SD: No, we have a non-monetary basis of exchange.
JC: How does this work?
SD: The government owns everything, but isn't responsible for controlling anything. It makes sure, for instance, that food gets to the distribution outlets. When you need something – food, clothes, furniture, art, books, etc. – you simply go to a distribution center and pick it up.
JC: If people don’t need to work for money on Telos, how does everything get done?
SD: Each person chooses what he wants to do. Say he decides to work in the hydroponic gardens; he sets his own hours, and lets his "foreman" know when he'll be there. And he does show up, because he knows everyone's well-being depends upon his doing his part. Some people's gifts are art, massage, etc. People have plenty of time to meditate, play, rest, go to the Temple for training, and grow spiritually.
JC: What about the jobs nobody wants to do, like collecting the garbage?
SD: We all take turns doing community service – even Council of Twelve members. There is no one better than, and no one less than. So we might give four hours a month to collect and dematerialize the garbage, weed the gardens, pick up animal droppings, etc. We're doing it with others so it becomes fun, we sing and have a good time.
JC: You actually dematerialize garbage?
SD: Yes.
JC: Could we ever use that skill on the surface!
JC: Do people get married on Telos?
SD: Yes, we have two kinds of marriages, bond marriage and sacred marriage. When two people feel they really have something together, they care for each other and want to see where it's going, they go to a priest or priestess and commit to a bond marriage. Sometimes these last for hundreds of years, but are usually shorter. Bond marriage partners don't have children. If the marriage doesn't work, they simply go again to the priest or priestess and it is dissolved – no stigma, no disharmony. When a bond marriage becomes very deep and lasting, the two may choose a sacred marriage. This might happen after two hundred years together, or two months. They have a beautiful, large wedding. All of our children come from sacred marriages.
JC: Why did you choose to marry a man from the surface level of Earth?
SD: He is my twin flame, the masculine half of my soul. He chose to incarnate on the surface level to help fulfill our work together, that of merging our two societies into one.
JC: Are any of these master abilities practiced by at least some Telosians:
travel by thought (leaving no form behind); or
manifestation from the ether?
SD: People who have gone through temple training do learn these things eventually, when they are ready.
JC: Sharula, thank you for coming up to be with us and help merge our two societies. How long do you think you will stay on the surface?
SD: That is up to spirit.
©1995, Joanna Cherry.

One of the last holds of Lemuria, mt Shasta.

I do not have access to Lemuria or Atlantean records (Via Akasha or telempathic downloads), so I have to look up the sources and verify them just like anyone else. If I did have access to them, I could speak on them personally, as others here have which may be verified as true.

https://www.himalayanacademy.com/view/lemurian-scrolls

Available there. Judging by the content, which I have read most/finished, this was in the Age of Gold, the Sat Yuga. We are in the Kali Yuga. Assuming a grand cycle is approximately 23-26k years, that means a minimum approximation of 63k years difference.

They were beings of a somewhat primitive nature, but those who had very advanced spiritual distortions. The civilization was part of this cycle, experienced early within the cycle at a time of approximately five three oh oh oh, fifty-three thousand [53,000] of your years ago.

A type of indirect verification. One has to connect the dots. Given that light and time slows/changes speed, the 10k of time difference is not significant enough. Especially if Lemuria was the civilization that anteceded, or followed, the one in the Lemurian scrolls. And then the current remnants of Lemuria, would be the survivors of Lemuria vs Atlantis war. And on it goes, into the Akashic past. The remnants of the remnants of the remnants, going on back through time.

I have also heard that the meteor/asteroid that hit the Earth and wiped out positive dinosaurs and maybe Lemuria, was the result of Draconian/ET interference. This is referred to as "confluence of energies" so to speak. That would mean Atlantis may have been the beginning of where souls from Malkuth or Mars began incarnating, bringing their DNA ancestral conflicts with them.

One thing the records show, Lemuria did not war on itself and destroy itself. Something else did, whatever that was. It was not the result of them drilling too Deep (that is so funny, someone here actually mentioned Atlantis doing that a few minutes before I received that thought) or attempting to input too much energy into their crystals (Also Atlantis, a form of 2nd density slavery).

[J.W.]

I hope this helps Taylor, I feel you are a bright soul. This brings joy to my heart. You are a humble seeker and very wise at this stage of your journey. Great job

I appreciate the kind words! Something else that has been troubling me: If we are 75,000 years into this cycle, does that mean my "soul" has been continuously reincarnating due to "failing" in each incarnation for all of those 75,000 years without discovering The Law of One?

Taylor, "you" have not been "failing." We all have our "time," this is simply "your" time, as you "seek" and the further you seek, you will reach a point of "un-learning."

There will be those around you that will focus on every little details, and every pins and needles of creations for that is what make their existence "whole" on their journey, for this is the "nature" of our journey to reaching "nirvana".... which means "nothingness."

Both You and I are also on this journey, and from where I am, my words and vibration will share with you that... Believe in yourself Taylor, you haave always been with the creator and the creator has always been with you.

Remember, it's not a race, it's not about "above" or "below," this is where bellicosity comes from. You have all that you need to "create" at every moment.

With love and light, my friend.