Will you come back?

[Dekalb_Blues]

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[Nau7ik]

L/L posted this quote in their Facebook page yesterday, and I thought it appropriate to repost it here:

M: Yes. I was reading about wanderers and how some of them cannot quite adjust to the third density and if they die in confusion, do they stay in the third density or do they go to their normal place?

Latwii: I am Latwii. Generally speaking, those entities known as wanderers enter the density no better equipped for the most part than those who [are] originally of that density in that the wanderer, in experiencing the forgetting, is not allowed to draw upon the full resource of experiences. They are in essence playing the odds, so to speak, that their natural tendency toward positive polarization will exert itself, and they will be successful in both contributing to the welfare of those about them and the attainment of sufficient polarization to upon their physical death be presented the option of returning to their original density or progressing to another act of service.

However, the possibility occurs, as whenever one plays the odds, that the odds will not fall in the direction that seems most obvious, and in this situation the wanderer incurs some responsibilities or karmic debts, as you refer to them, that must be discharged, and if this is not accomplished during the first incarnation, additional incarnations may be required to accomplish this end.

May we answer you further?

M: Well, do they eventually go back to their fifth or sixth dimension? I mean density, or do they stay in the third density indefinitely, the same as a third-density person?

Latwii: I am Latwii. The wanderers who discharge their acts of service without incurring further indebtedness are allowed to return to their original density or to take upon themselves further acts of service which may or may not require reincarnating in that same density on that same planet or reincarnating in that same density on a different planet, as that need exists.

May we answer you further?

M: I meant the ones that die confused. Do they have a choice or must they stay in the same density?

Latwii: I am Latwii. The distinction between confusion and indebtedness is significant in that confusion does not affect the wanderer’s attainment. The wanderer, upon experiencing physical death, once again passes through the veil of forgetting and recovers those forgotten memories. The significant factor is not confusion, but whether a karmic debt has been incurred during that incarnation. If this is the case, the wanderer must discharge the karmic debt before proceeding to his own density or further acts of service. If the wanderer has not incurred such indebtedness, he or she is free to return to the original density or elect to perform further acts of service in lesser densities.

[Cannon]

Will you come back?

Most likely I believe I will, if only to 'keep in touch' with those I've formed relationships with already. This probably isn't my first incarnation here, as I've felt an immediate 'soul' connection to certain people I've met during my life who were very obviously not wanderers.

One interesting thing concerning previous Earthly incarnations has to do with my username, which I chose with a random word generator (deciding on using whatever word which first came up) and, before it magically landed on Cannon, I was, for around a month, feeling rather strongly that I had previously fought in the United States civil war as a man very involved with those weapons. The mental image of a bloody cannonball swiftly rolling and skidding on a grassy field fills me with difficult emotions. I might have killed some people back then who are now my friends today.

[Glow]

L/L posted this quote in their Facebook page yesterday, and I thought it appropriate to repost it here:

M: Yes. I was reading about wanderers and how some of them cannot quite adjust to the third density and if they die in confusion, do they stay in the third density or do they go to their normal place?

Latwii: I am Latwii. Generally speaking, those entities known as wanderers enter the density no better equipped for the most part than those who [are] originally of that density in that the wanderer, in experiencing the forgetting, is not allowed to draw upon the full resource of experiences. They are in essence playing the odds, so to speak, that their natural tendency toward positive polarization will exert itself, and they will be successful in both contributing to the welfare of those about them and the attainment of sufficient polarization to upon their physical death be presented the option of returning to their original density or progressing to another act of service.

However, the possibility occurs, as whenever one plays the odds, that the odds will not fall in the direction that seems most obvious, and in this situation the wanderer incurs some responsibilities or karmic debts, as you refer to them, that must be discharged, and if this is not accomplished during the first incarnation, additional incarnations may be required to accomplish this end.

May we answer you further?

M: Well, do they eventually go back to their fifth or sixth dimension? I mean density, or do they stay in the third density indefinitely, the same as a third-density person?

Latwii: I am Latwii. The wanderers who discharge their acts of service without incurring further indebtedness are allowed to return to their original density or to take upon themselves further acts of service which may or may not require reincarnating in that same density on that same planet or reincarnating in that same density on a different planet, as that need exists.

May we answer you further?

M: I meant the ones that die confused. Do they have a choice or must they stay in the same density?

Latwii: I am Latwii. The distinction between confusion and indebtedness is significant in that confusion does not affect the wanderer’s attainment. The wanderer, upon experiencing physical death, once again passes through the veil of forgetting and recovers those forgotten memories. The significant factor is not confusion, but whether a karmic debt has been incurred during that incarnation. If this is the case, the wanderer must discharge the karmic debt before proceeding to his own density or further acts of service. If the wanderer has not incurred such indebtedness, he or she is free to return to the original density or elect to perform further acts of service in lesser densities.

THe snag in that is that if you see through the veil even at the last moment of life and remember we are one. Forgiveness of self and other self erases karma. Remembering is important in that way and perhaps why I’m drawn to work with the dying. If forgiveness can be found you are free.

[Ankh]

I believe most people here recognize themselves as wanderers, if so, how do you feel about your choice to come down here? and now that you're here, will you come back if given the opportunity?

Heck yeah, I'd love to, BUT only if it means less trauma and suffering due to it as I've experienced in this incarnation. Yes, I made it. And yes, I found my way back to love and light again, but I am really tired. I don't have this "energy" anymore it feels like, for crazy things like this. Of course, if I am called again by the same people and if it means similar trauma again, I might consider it, but I wouldn't want to come down again without having a serious overview of everything beyond the veil first. If it's really, really necessary or if I'm really, really THAT stupid-compassionate, then heck yeah then! Here we go again!  

But if I am to choose, I would love to come back here again, just in more harmonious conditions, or at least with less trauma which leads to PTSD. 

[MangusKhan]

L/L posted this quote in their Facebook page yesterday, and I thought it appropriate to repost it here:

M: Yes. I was reading about wanderers and how some of them cannot quite adjust to the third density and if they die in confusion, do they stay in the third density or do they go to their normal place?

Latwii: I am Latwii. Generally speaking, those entities known as wanderers enter the density no better equipped for the most part than those who [are] originally of that density in that the wanderer, in experiencing the forgetting, is not allowed to draw upon the full resource of experiences. They are in essence playing the odds, so to speak, that their natural tendency toward positive polarization will exert itself, and they will be successful in both contributing to the welfare of those about them and the attainment of sufficient polarization to upon their physical death be presented the option of returning to their original density or progressing to another act of service.

However, the possibility occurs, as whenever one plays the odds, that the odds will not fall in the direction that seems most obvious, and in this situation the wanderer incurs some responsibilities or karmic debts, as you refer to them, that must be discharged, and if this is not accomplished during the first incarnation, additional incarnations may be required to accomplish this end.

May we answer you further?

M: Well, do they eventually go back to their fifth or sixth dimension? I mean density, or do they stay in the third density indefinitely, the same as a third-density person?

Latwii: I am Latwii. The wanderers who discharge their acts of service without incurring further indebtedness are allowed to return to their original density or to take upon themselves further acts of service which may or may not require reincarnating in that same density on that same planet or reincarnating in that same density on a different planet, as that need exists.

May we answer you further?

M: I meant the ones that die confused. Do they have a choice or must they stay in the same density?

Latwii: I am Latwii. The distinction between confusion and indebtedness is significant in that confusion does not affect the wanderer’s attainment. The wanderer, upon experiencing physical death, once again passes through the veil of forgetting and recovers those forgotten memories. The significant factor is not confusion, but whether a karmic debt has been incurred during that incarnation. If this is the case, the wanderer must discharge the karmic debt before proceeding to his own density or further acts of service. If the wanderer has not incurred such indebtedness, he or she is free to return to the original density or elect to perform further acts of service in lesser densities.

THe snag in that is that if you see through the veil even at the last moment of life and remember we are one. Forgiveness of self and other self erases karma. Remembering is important in that way and perhaps why I’m drawn to work with the dying. If forgiveness can be found you are free.

I feel this is something far, far more easily said than done. I was just contemplating this this morning. I know I could not forgive myself unless I had a reason to forgive myself. Basically, If I had not done something to make right the wrong in some way, through physical action on this plane, then it would not be possible for me to just go "Okay I forgive myself " and move on.

Case in point, I used to bully this autistic kid back when I was very young. To the point where he did not want to come to school, because me and my cronies would give him hell. I cannot reach him now. If he has seen my apology, he ignores it/me. The only way I feel I can restore my honour and reach a point of forgiveness is through a lifetime of attempting to accept, encourage, and empower those who I see as different and vulnerable. God I wish I could go back in time. I have created an entire negative timeline for this individual through my actions, and I can't take it back. Consciousness is a chaotic system, heavily affected by initial conditions, with heavier effects being produced by more initial conditions. What you do to a child stays with that child forever and shapes all their subsequent experience.

[xise]

Would I come back to the 4D transitioning Earth? Probably, because things are going to be interesting and change will be occurring more and more in future years.

Perhaps another related question one could ask: How many of you would choose to follow those who did not graduate into another fully 3D planet, in order to aid in their polarization? That's a hard one, I don't think I would, I feel I need a break from full 3D to recharge before I go back in.

[DungBeetle]

I absolutely will.(assuming I am a wanderer) The way I see it is, we have already incarnated thousands/millions of times and I do not remember squat of it, so whats another million years?

I do have a slight dilemma/thought. I want to contribute to help humanity in this mess we are in, but I also feel choosing to come back is also an act of STS because I would gain too. Regardless..., if asked, I will gladly come back as many times as it takes.

[Coordinate_Apotheosis]

...by that logic I don't think I will come back.

Been here done that, maybe it's time to learn something new.  Or to try to create something new.

I'll probably protest 3D life anyways if I did come back, I'm not a fan of it now that I've seen it from a Human perspective and all the implications made therein.

I don't want to hurt anyone, this is the last place to go for that.  You try to help and end up hurting another.

Just doesn't seem like my personal cup of tea anymore.  Maybe I'm better off supernovaing stars, spawning black holes and making new dimensions.

I certainly don't do this Human thing very good, at least, not this time around...

[AnthroHeart]

Only if it makes a true difference will I come back.

I have to weigh out my other lifetimes.

I also don't want to carry extra karma with me. So I might do that if it helps to remove any extra karma.
God knows I've done some pretty bad things. I only hope I can make amends for them in this life.