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03-09-2015, 09:45 PM

(03-09-2015, 08:54 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: The Great Central Sun is not a sun, is it? It is the Source of All That Is.

I speak of the Sun as a symbol.

Billy · 03-10-2015, 03:41 AM

(03-09-2015, 08:28 AM)Jeremy Wrote: We will never shift into some 4D entity within our current incarnation. Such graduation doesn't occur until after our current incarnation ends. No transcendence, no ascendance, no magical warp into sunshine and rainbows.

If we are indeed on our last hurrah of this density, go out and enjoy it by attempting to bring others into the light of such a wonderful existence.

Yeah, I think that you are probably right.

Bluebell · 03-10-2015, 05:28 AM

i thought it was a sun.

BlatzAdict · 03-10-2015, 09:31 AM

(02-21-2015, 05:11 PM)words of a wanderer With the amount of time to takes to manifest desires and wishes, at least for me in my life, it is taking less and less time to materialize which baffles and astounds me. But I know this has to be so, because I will it.I will it because I align myself with the creative force of the one infinite creator.I would say depending on your perspective, the shift is possible within the viewpoint you carry.If you would pay attention to those in the negative rifts, they are still being bathed and pulled through the same energy, they are being presented with the same things, but are veiled. That may be true, but for those of us who are learning, eyes open, awake, it kinda feels like... hitting 5th. why? You know in the Law of One they talk about ambrosia and eating this blue greenish hue light. well right then i was mixing up blue green algae, with honey. honey never rots? i didn\t know that until 2 weeks ago! i'm getting so many brain downloads. it's insane. on everything. is this ambrosia? according to Ra?umm drinking it was like putting rocket fuel into your chakra systems. of course it wasn't straight honey and algae it was in raw juice i don't think i could eat it straight like that, though it might taste good it would be a waste haha.anyway food for thought i think with the way we look 4th or 5th density is livable. in this free will zone it's not like we can force people to wake up.. they need to of their own free will and choice. i won't tell them until they ask. i won't control. i'm done with that. the kids, they can do what they want, let them. awakenspencer Wrote: Referring to all of the sessions collected and channelled here, I have a question that has likely been sought before, but I cannot seem to find good material on.

I remember reading in the Law of One that the shift into fourth density would happen in 2011 or 2012, but that since there is a large amount of negative energy holding us back, it would take 100-700 years to become a true fourth density planet.

I am wondering, how are we doing on this now? Is there a point when we can expect to become electromagnetic instead of chemical? And what developments in consciousness can we expect within this lifetime, say the next 50 years?

Also, is there a cutoff point for third density, in which only fourth density is allowed to incarnate?

If these questions havw been explored elsewhere, or perhaps in one of the sessions in the L/L Research library, please point me to further resources.

Thanks, Spencer

AnthroHeart · 03-10-2015, 05:25 PM

(03-09-2015, 09:45 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote:
(03-09-2015, 08:54 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: The Great Central Sun is not a sun, is it? It is the Source of All That Is.

I speak of the Sun as a symbol.

Is it metaphor? What does this symbol represent?
And do you speak of Sol, our sun?

Shemaya · 03-10-2015, 06:27 PM

(03-10-2015, 05:25 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:
(03-09-2015, 09:45 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote:
(03-09-2015, 08:54 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: The Great Central Sun is not a sun, is it? It is the Source of All That Is.

I speak of the Sun as a symbol.

Is it metaphor? What does this symbol represent?
And do you speak of Sol, our sun?

I speak of an archetype, the Sun, which represents many things to many people but for me it represents the Source as a concept. I refer to the fundamental concept that underlies the word "Sun" and its associated relativity with other words and symbols. The Sun also represents, for me, the Light for the Universe is the Body of Light of the Creator which manifests through Suns, embodiment of the Sun archetype present in the Mind of the Creator.

AnthroHeart · 03-10-2015, 06:38 PM

So to you is Galaxy greater than Sun?

03-10-2015, 06:39 PM

Not greater, a different archetype.

AnthroHeart · 03-10-2015, 06:41 PM

Fascinating. I have always resonated with Galaxy, having experienced the creation of one.

03-10-2015, 06:42 PM

Galaxy stems from the archetype of the Wheel or Cycle.

AnthroHeart · 03-10-2015, 06:47 PM

And how long is the Cycle of a Galaxy?

03-10-2015, 06:49 PM

Depends on the Galaxy.

AnthroHeart · (This post was last modified: 03-10-2015, 06:52 PM by AnthroHeart.)

I am surprised I gave up Logos awareness to come here into such limitation.
I wanted to be aware at least for a Galactic Cycle.
I don't think I've been to any other Logos or Galaxy.

03-10-2015, 06:53 PM

You have not given up anything, this is part of Logos awareness. Logos extends through both macrocosm and microcosm.

03-10-2015, 06:54 PM

What appears as a life time from this perspective of Logos is less than a fraction of a second to a more macrocosmic perspective of Logos. It is all still the Logos, though.

Shemaya · 03-10-2015, 06:58 PM

(03-10-2015, 06:27 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote:
(03-10-2015, 05:25 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:
(03-09-2015, 09:45 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote:
(03-09-2015, 08:54 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: The Great Central Sun is not a sun, is it? It is the Source of All That Is.

I speak of the Sun as a symbol.

I speak of an archetype, the Sun, which represents many things to many people but for me it represents the Source as a concept. I refer to the fundamental concept that underlies the word "Sun" and its associated relativity with other words and symbols. The Sun also represents, for me, the Light for the Universe is the Body of Light of the Creator which manifests through Suns, embodiment of the Sun archetype present in the Mind of the Creator.

that's awesome! It's almost as if physical creation is an exact metaphor for the archetypes in The Mind of the Creator.

03-10-2015, 07:00 PM

Rather than a metaphor, you could say it is an analog.

Shemaya · 03-10-2015, 07:04 PM

Yes, that makes more sense...sort of fractal. Like the logos and sub logoi and sub sub logoi. We are all sub suns to our solar system Sun. Is there actually a great central Sun in physical existence?

sunnysideup · 03-10-2015, 07:13 PM

“My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.” - Nikola Tesla

Shemaya · 03-10-2015, 07:15 PM

(03-10-2015, 07:13 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: “My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.” - Nikola Tesla

So do you think this is in time/space or space/time?

AnthroHeart · 03-10-2015, 07:16 PM

Can one really accelerate their spiritual development in the microcosm vs being at full Logos awareness?

sunnysideup · 03-10-2015, 07:21 PM

(03-10-2015, 07:04 PM)Shemaya Wrote: Yes, that makes more sense...sort of fractal. Like the logos and sub logoi and sub sub logoi. We are all sub suns to our solar system Sun. Is there actually a great central Sun in physical existence?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_A*

AnthroHeart · 03-10-2015, 08:32 PM

(03-10-2015, 07:15 PM)Shemaya Wrote:
(03-10-2015, 07:13 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: “My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.” - Nikola Tesla

So do you think this is in time/space or space/time?

I think we can have certain knowledge even in space/time.

AnthroHeart · (This post was last modified: 03-10-2015, 08:35 PM by AnthroHeart.)

(03-10-2015, 07:21 PM)sunnysideup Wrote:
(03-10-2015, 07:04 PM)Shemaya Wrote: Yes, that makes more sense...sort of fractal. Like the logos and sub logoi and sub sub logoi. We are all sub suns to our solar system Sun. Is there actually a great central Sun in physical existence?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_A*

darklight mentioned a black hole of 3 million solar masses.

Billy · (This post was last modified: 03-10-2015, 11:47 PM by Billy.)

So what do you guys think about what Bashar said about 2016 and how 'everything will change'? Last thing, I promise BigSmile

03-11-2015, 05:13 AM

(03-10-2015, 07:15 PM)Shemaya Wrote:
(03-10-2015, 07:13 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: “My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.” - Nikola Tesla

So do you think this is in time/space or space/time?

The fulcrum where they meet.

AnthroHeart · (This post was last modified: 03-11-2015, 10:09 AM by AnthroHeart.)

(03-10-2015, 11:46 PM)Folk-love Wrote: So what do you guys think about what Bashar said about 2016 and how 'everything will change'? Last thing, I promise

I don't know. I don't keep my hopes up since 3D really is an illusion. And I don't see the illusion going away.
I never heard that Bashar one.

Shemaya · 03-11-2015, 06:34 PM

(03-10-2015, 11:46 PM)Folk-love Wrote: So what do you guys think about what Bashar said about 2016 and how 'everything will change'? Last thing, I promise

I think anyone who is giving dates is not to be trusted simply for that reason. Just saying, I don't believe we can pin point dates.

The possibility and probability vortices are in constant flux because everything changes. He is definitely right that everything will change though!

Bluebell · 03-12-2015, 09:59 AM

(03-10-2015, 06:52 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I am surprised I gave up Logos awareness to come here into such limitation.
I wanted to be aware at least for a Galactic Cycle.
I don't think I've been to any other Logos or Galaxy.

i feel like i put this limitation on myself, like it's supposed to be temporary, yet i can't believe how irresistible it is, & how much i hate it w every fiber of my being.

Bluebell · 03-12-2015, 10:01 AM

(03-11-2015, 06:34 PM)Shemaya Wrote:
(03-10-2015, 11:46 PM)Folk-love Wrote: So what do you guys think about what Bashar said about 2016 and how 'everything will change'? Last thing, I promise

I think anyone who is giving dates is not to be trusted simply for that reason. Just saying, I don't believe we can pin point dates.

The possibility and probability vortices are in constant flux because everything changes. He is definitely right that everything will change though!

hey that's next year! y is it always next year Smile

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