Winter Solstice of 2011/ Harvest approaching?

[Namaste]

Fantastic quote, TN, thank you. I'm excited to read the Aaron/Q'uo dialogues.

This moved me, immensely, as I think it each and every morning:

"Not my will, but thine be done; not for my glory, but for thine. It only comes through me. I am simply a channel."

Regardless of how we get there, fourth density positive - bring it on!

[AnthroHeart]

Yeah, bring it on.

[godwide_void]

Thank you for that session Tenet Nosce. It certainly cleared a few things up for me.

[Tyler Durden Maybe]

Sorry Tenet Nosce couldn't help myself on this one:

"There are an infinite number of ways to travel from NYC to LA. None of them involve heading north." - Tenet Nosce

Sure there are: From NYC head Due North, directly over the North Pole, then South on the other side of the Earth over the Asian Continent and over the South Pole, then head North over South America and Central America until you hit LA. That's like 50% North the entire trip.

[ThatZenGuy]

"I died a mineral and became a plant;
I died a plant and rose an animal;
I died an animal and I was a man.
Why should I fear?
When was I less by dying?
Yet once more I shall die as a man, to soar With blessed angels;
even from angelhood I must pass on.
When I have sacrificed my angel soul,
I shall become that which no mind conceived." - Rumi

This poem resonates with me and the harvest very much. It also hints about our journey through the densities. =D

[turtledude23]

The Winter Solstice of 2011 has just passed 14 minutes ago, either we've all been harvested or we've got another year to go.

[Conifer16]

Or the days are now longer :-)

And we are on our way to "better" times :-)

Love and light to all
-Conifer16- Adonai Vasu Borragus

[godwide_void]

The Winter Solstice of 2011 has just passed 14 minutes ago, either we've all been harvested or we've got another year to go.

Quick, someone try making a thread telepathically and send it to every Bring4th member, let's see if a random topic box pops up in our minds. Let's test if 4D has sufficiently creeped its way in already.

[turtledude23]

The Winter Solstice of 2011 has just passed 14 minutes ago, either we've all been harvested or we've got another year to go.

Quick, someone try making a thread telepathically and send it to every Bring4th member, let's see if a random topic box pops up in our minds. Let's test if 4D has sufficiently creeped its way in already.

It probably takes at least several hundred years for a social memory complex to form, we're going to have to stick to smoke signals for now.

[NegaNova]

The Winter Solstice of 2011 has just passed 14 minutes ago, either we've all been harvested or we've got another year to go.

Quick, someone try making a thread telepathically and send it to every Bring4th member, let's see if a random topic box pops up in our minds. Let's test if 4D has sufficiently creeped its way in already.

It probably takes at least several hundred years for a social memory complex to form, we're going to have to stick to smoke signals for now.

They mention a time lateral in the session and a couple sessions after the one posted, don't they?

[Cyan]

It's ironic that those that want to see the 4th D as being "out there" as a quantifiable definite "See, telepathy works now"

Its always worked people, you always get exactly what you want, it is just that the openness of the society has finally reached a point where it should be relevant and visible to everyone.

You want a social memory complex, try the internet.

[Tenet Nosce]

Sure there are: From NYC head Due North, directly over the North Pole, then South on the other side of the Earth over the Asian Continent and over the South Pole, then head North over South America and Central America until you hit LA. That's like 50% North the entire trip.

TDM - I tried charting your course in Google Earth... I ended up back in NYC.

[Diana]

All I -ever- said to this particular point was that I see a possibility that it might be possible for a wanderer to live a simultaneous existence in 3D and 4D, and be able to pass their consciousness between worlds much as one does when passing from the waking to the dream state.

If there is any reality in my lifelong dreams of living on another planet, and being told I was here on 3D Earth as a volunteer, then this statement makes perfect sense. Let me add that I am a very rational person and not given to delusions of grandeur, but also one who seeks knowledge, which of course includes "higher" knowledge.

Also in terms of multidimensional selves, and the many-universes cosmology, it also makes sense. 3D is very linear, which serves our purposes here with a thick veil, yet we know even from our limited physics at the subatomic level that this is an illusion. And if time is simultaneous, or somehow a "soup," then our travels through 3D and 4D etc., may all be evolving simultaneously.

[Namaste]

Indeed we are multi-dimensional.

When you bring the 'eternal now' into the equation, one can see the true extent of the term :¬)

[Tenet Nosce]

The author seems to be dubious about this Pleiadian woman's claims despite the fact that he actually was able to confirm many of them on his own.

Some possibly irrelevant information I just came across in the Aaron/Q'uo Dialogues:

The Aaron/Q’uo Dialogues, Session 20
25 Sep 93

Questioner: Have you had much contact with Pleiadian entities?

Carla: I have worked with people who have been channeling the Pleiades. I have not accepted that contact.

Questioner: Have you turned it away?

Carla: Yes.

Questioner: Why? Is that a personal question?

Carla: No. It is a question having to do with my judgment that the contact is mixed.

Questioner: Yes. That fits with what we’ve heard about the Pleiades. There are different purposes at work coming from that system.

Questioner: Could someone speak to what they are? I’ve never heard of it.

Questioner: The Pleiadians are a star formation, aren’t they?

Questioner: Yes! And it’s one of the oldest civilizations in the galaxy. Aaron gave some talks about how a lot of our culture was seeded from the Pleiades and that a lot of us came from the Pleiades.

Carla: It’s very strong energy, but it’s also capable of a good bit of delusion.

Questioner: Can you pick and choose?

Carla: I don’t think you can as well, once you accept contact. You’re going to get what you get.

Barbara: Last spring Aaron talked about the Pleiades, but I have not yet seen the transcripts from that. Does anybody know what he said? Does anybody remember? Can you share a little bit with us?

Questioner: As I best recall, the Pleiadians were a very ancient civilization that was made up, not of one race, but of many different kinds of beings who came together—physical beings and non-physical beings like water beings, air beings, more ethereal beings. And they had a governing council made up of beings who were incarnate and discarnate. That council and those beings were aware of the distortions that were happening on Earth due to extraterrestrial contact with the Earth—negatively polarized contact. And there was a debate about whether or not to intervene.

So, some of the beings from the council (it is not a governing council but a voluntary council, like a service group) came to Earth. They came, not as incarnate beings, but as shape changers, which is a way of simulating incarnation here in the physical but being able to leave at will and not be subject to the karma here. So, they were hoping that by simulating the negatively polarized extraterrestrials, they could give a different message of love instead of a negative one of fear. But what they didn’t realize was that by taking the form of these negative beings, they had to copy them so precisely that they had the capability to even emulate the emotional body to such an extent they could not separate from the negative polarity as well.

Thus, they fell into negativity because they also, despite their very good intentions, had a very small amount of mixed motivations or negativity within them. They were very loving beings with very good intentions, but they overestimated their own ability and their own need to learn from the negative half to understand negativity within them. So eventually many of them took incarnation. And as the years and incarnations went by, many of the lessons from their civilization became seed-points of our own great civilization. They were bringers of culture and light.

So, they came to teach, but also ended up coming to learn, and many are still here working out their karma. There is still contact going on from the Pleiades, as Aaron has told us, but there is still a debate about this contact and whether beings from other planets should actively intervene.

This was an echo of previous history in which the makers of Earth had seen the negative contact with their creations—the people of Earth—and they tried to protect them somehow, not trusting people’s ability to learn from this negative contact. And this protectiveness by these beings who founded Earth became itself a negative catalyst; and further … yes! … it was the birth of fear on Earth!

This was long before the Pleiadians saw the contact of extraterrestrials, which was far more negative by then. So, now I think some of the contact that Carla is talking about is some of these beings come to do good, but not to intervene. There is a law or agreement not to come to Earth unless it is by incarnation. But what about those beings who do not follow the law? Do you enforce control or allow those beings to go ahead with breaking this law?

Barbara: Aaron says two things. He says, “Thank you!” to you. (I’m paraphrasing here.) He’s saying that there is a force field of sorts around the Earth. They cannot use fear. They use love as the energy of this force field to prevent encroachment by negative energy. There’s a force field of love which prevents highly negative energy from encroaching, because they’re repelled by this force field. But energies such as the Pleiadians are not negatively polarized, simply, in Aaron’s viewpoint, have misunderstanding that the end justifies the means, and thus have intervened rather than trusting and having faith in those on Earth to work it out on their own; but they are not repelled by the force field because they are positively polarized beings. That is all.

[AnthroHeart]

I've heard it said in a channeling from Pleiadians that they will trick you, and it's good to be wary of who you trust. If ships land at the end of 2012, I'm not one to just jump on board. It may be difficult to determine if they are of STS or STO nature.

[Parsons]

Very interesting, TN, the Pleiadians have intrigued me for months now. This largely agrees with the picture I have of them.

GW, That is the plan I have essentially with any kind of physical landings. I would like to go up and talk with them for a minute or two before I consider checking out anyone's "ride" as they say.

As for how difficult it might to be to determine if they are STO or STS... I doubt I will have too many issues, personally. I seem to have at least a "sprinkling" of this truth-sense ability many of the awakened/wanderers seem to have.

[AnthroHeart]

I think I recall hearing that the vibrations of Earth will be too high for darker entities to be comfortable.
So it's possible the ships that do land are of loving vibration.

[Peregrinus]

"Ships" will land and long before the end of 2012. None will be negative of nature, for two reasons. Firstly, as per the reason mentioned, since our great Mother is activating fourth density positive, those of negative vibration are no longer able to withstand the high vibration. It was only during the lower third density vibration that they were able, and Earth fully resides in fourth density light at this time. Secondly, the quarantine was strengthened/enforced in the late 1990's and continues unbroken.

[yossarian]

"Ships" will land and long before the end of 2012. None will be negative of nature, for two reasons. Firstly, as per the reason mentioned, since our great Mother is activating fourth density positive, those of negative vibration are no longer able to withstand the high vibration. It was only during the lower third density vibration that they were able, and Earth fully resides in fourth density light at this time. Secondly, the quarantine was strengthened/enforced in the late 1990's and continues unbroken.

How do you know this? Also, what's your track record of written predictions like?

[Peregrinus]

Once the indigo is open and the mind/body/spirit is in consort with higher self, Creation is manifest. With enough positive entities manifesting the same outcome, it is so guaranteed.

Ra: I am Ra. The number is approximate due to an heavy influx of those birthed at this time due to an intensive need to lighten the planetary vibration and thus aid in harvest. The number approaches sixty-five million.

That was the number thirty years ago. The number is considerably greater now due to the ongoing harvest.

[hogey11]

Once the indigo is open and the mind/body/spirit is in consort with higher self, Creation is manifest. With enough positive entities manifesting the same outcome, it is so guaranteed.

Ra: I am Ra. The number is approximate due to an heavy influx of those birthed at this time due to an intensive need to lighten the planetary vibration and thus aid in harvest. The number approaches sixty-five million.

That was the number thirty years ago. The number is considerably greater now due to the ongoing harvest.

The world population 30 years ago was only 3.5 billion as well. I believe Ra says elsewhere that as we approach harvest, more and more harvestable souls will be incarnated to be present for the ascension moment or whatever. I think it was even taken a step up somewhere (can't remember right now) and I thought it was said that since the late 70s, nearly all souls will be of harvestable quality from here on out to end of cycle.

If this is all true, you should technically be able to add the lion's share of the 3.5 billion that the world has added in the last 30 years alone. When you think of it this way, realizing that we have reached positive harvestability is not out of the question. By harvestability, I am speaking in higher self terms, not in current incarnational terms. I think most of us have already done the heavy lifting in previous lifetimes and this incarnations karma is relatively inconsequential compared to all that has been worked through in anticipation. That still doesn't shield us from a switch in polarity tho... Just my opinion

[Peregrinus]

You speak of the harmonic convergence of Aug 16/17 1987. Indeed all born after that date are duel activated body, but being harvestable requires appropriate polarity and is an individual requirement, not a societal one. Nothing is inconsequential in this dance.

[hogey11]

I meant to choose my words more carefully. I totally understand that we are always 'on the clock' and are never truly shielded from karma. I was recalling either a Q'uo reading or a 3rd party channel that I resonated with that claimed most of the souls born past the 'harmonic convergence' date were more-or-less 'great souls' who had been waiting in non-incarnational space waiting for harvest and allowing those still in the quagmire to continue to attempt to make a choice. In short, those born past 1987 have largely incarnated in order to be present for the harvest. I would argue there would be some protections in place by the higher self to ensure this conclusion, but I also understand that polarity shifts can happen to the best of them. I just don't want to abandon the thought due to the exception existing, i guess...

The other thing that i'm thinking of in relation to this is how Ra was quite unsure about the planets positive harvest while Q'uo has reassured us Ra was off-mark on their predictions. I don't think Ra could necessarily know the amount of 'great souls' that might come over the next 30 years, and judging from the population growth curve, we're in the midst of a spike of all spikes.

I don't mean to downplay the importance of making the decisions that you are required to make in our lives. I think we will each have to make the decision to ascend at some point. I am more speaking to the idea of people being 'ready' or not; I think so many of us are trapped in the illusion, but the first ray of light the pierces the veil is going to wake a LOT of people up. These people are what I think constitute the 'great souls' (obviously with those who are already involved already with the changing of the world). This is just my own little crackpot theory tho

[Peregrinus]

I meant to choose my words more carefully. I totally understand that we are always 'on the clock' and are never truly shielded from karma. I was recalling either a Q'uo reading or a 3rd party channel that I resonated with that claimed most of the souls born past the 'harmonic convergence' date were more-or-less 'great souls' who had been waiting in non-incarnational space waiting for harvest and allowing those still in the quagmire to continue to attempt to make a choice. In short, those born past 1987 have largely incarnated in order to be present for the harvest. I would argue there would be some protections in place by the higher self to ensure this conclusion, but I also understand that polarity shifts can happen to the best of them. I just don't want to abandon the thought due to the exception existing, i guess...

It is correct that some spirits have remained disincarnate awaiting a "time" when further work could be done, some since the time of Atlantis, but in time/space, this is not viewed as such as waiting, for there is only now. If one were view all lives incarnate whilst in the inner planes, they do not occur in linear time, but as required to experience in the order that provides the greatest possibility of learning those lessons desired.

The other thing that i'm thinking of in relation to this is how Ra was quite unsure about the planets positive harvest while Q'uo has reassured us Ra was off-mark on their predictions. I don't think Ra could necessarily know the amount of 'great souls' that might come over the next 30 years, and judging from the population growth curve, we're in the midst of a spike of all spikes.

Ra could only estimate with the use of probability vortices, but as the illusion is furthered in "time", less probability exists. This is why Q'uo (Ra, Latwii, Hatonn) are able to provide greater accuracy.

I don't mean to downplay the importance of making the decisions that you are required to make in our lives. I think we will each have to make the decision to ascend at some point. I am more speaking to the idea of people being 'ready' or not; I think so many of us are trapped in the illusion, but the first ray of light the pierces the veil is going to wake a LOT of people up. These people are what I think constitute the 'great souls' (obviously with those who are already involved already with the changing of the world). This is just my own little crackpot theory tho

All *souls are great souls Yes, all born in duel activated bodies have the potential/possibility of being harvestable, and therefore vibrate at a higher frequency. This, in addition to wanderers, as well as offworld higher density beings, has helped increase the vibration considerably as well.

*I take your use of the term soul to mean what understand as spirit.

[hogey11]

I took 'great souls' to simply mean 3D souls that had worked through their catalyst and karma to the point of being 4D harvestable. The 'wait' I'm referring to is the evolution window; the availability of the "steps of light" to progress to 4D and beyond. I agree on all the waiting semantics and stuff; I guess I am purely speaking from the standpoint involving the 3rd 25,000 year cycle of 3D. As I understood it, we are approaching the end of this final cycle before 4D; therefore, there exists within space/time only so much time for those who are still working through their karma/catalyst to do so (I don't mean this in a timeframe of weeks or months, rather generations). For myself, 1987 makes sense as a time where a 'cut-off' or slowdown of confused souls still needing a typical 3D incarnation to progress being brought into this sphere. At some point, you have to let in all those who have a ticket; my hypothesis is that there were far more who had a ticket than anyone - including Ra - had realized, hence the population boom and the positive polarization of the planet.

[Peregrinus]

Indeed there are a great number awaiting the opportunity to become part of this experience. With more than 7 billion currently (just went over that a few weeks ago) on this planet, there are another 3 billion or so spirits in line to be a part of this "Greatest Show on Earth".

The population will soon though be in decline due to reduced birth rates and an aging current population, speculation being that in less than 50 years, the population will be at less than 5 billion.

[AnthroHeart]

And preferably 5 billion harmonious souls.

[Peregrinus]

Preferably will not be an option. Third density light may still exist in a waning state, but when Terra goes into full fourth density activation, the vibration will be too strong for the lower vibrations to continue to exist in.

[hogey11]

to me its just funny how that works out - the planet population spikes up to over 7 billion from 3-4, and then should jump right back down to 5 billion in about 50 years (as you say).

could be coinicidence.... but my guess is the Calvary has already arrived and is among us already. That's why I'm beginning to think there is going to be a big "awakening" moment for a LOT of people. Maybe it will be something related to disclosure, maybe something completely different, but I think there will be something in the coming years that is going to tear a hole in the veil, for lack of better term. This hole will lead to a mass awakening that will lead us into acceptance of the 4D vibrations and energy as a social complex. That's as far as i've developed it for now