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    Thread: New Age Spiritual Movement Frustrations


    Phoenix (Offline)

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    #61
    07-20-2022, 09:18 AM
    Watched a video on Teal Swan the other day.


    Not understood much but it appears the girls ego got out of control (assuming she was not from a bloodline family to begin with that I see as a distinct possibility). She has been exposed recently by a Hulu documentary and in her group she has a set of commandments she calls 'non negotiables' and one of them is something like people should always support her.


    This has been the case from time immemorial. It is I suppose how people choose their polarity if they are spiritually inclined. Even Jesus had problems with the false teachers of his day... The "Pharisee's" which he often called "Vipers" and never tried to preach to or spoke to with any respect at all!


    Echoing Zedro's comment there I think that if people are severely messed up in this society they will make errors. As an example since lockdown there have been a lot of suicides. In the UK they are not releasing the numbers but I am personally sure the numbers will be higher than they say. I know someone at work who said four people he knew committed suicide, another persons boss's sister killed herself. I am just hearing about it way more and my understanding is that A) Either the soul prepared for this and already had another incarnation on the go when they killed themselves. B) They are unharvestable. Suicide is a choice that I believe makes a person unharvestable.


    It is a lot of people and wanderers will make up that number. Plus all those that unexpectedly died. Perhaps due to "Sudden Adult Death Syndrome", will some of these people want to repeat the incarnation and end it well? We don't really know how these things work but it seems to me highly likely a lot of us are going to come back to a society where less negative infringement has happened.


    So people will hopefully get the chance to incarnate in a place with less corrupt spiritual teachers.
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    07-20-2022, 10:08 AM (This post was last modified: 07-20-2022, 10:23 AM by Spiritualchaos.)
    (07-19-2022, 06:15 PM)LeiwoUnion Wrote: All is well dear sister Spiritualchaos. I feel there is a well disquised (or maybe not so well disquised) calling for sympathy and understanding, connection, in your late posts; thus I try to offer some words of potential help.

    To me it seems you went to outer workings too early, before your inner workings were standing on, shall I say, a steady foundation. One heals oneself to heal others. One teaches oneself to be able to teach the others. Soul group work is not bound to timeframes, it is eternal; you are not in a hurry, you are here to accept and Love no matter the situation. You'll get better and better at it, and at some point you'll swim in the True color green-blue, just like at your true home. Have patience my friend, your intuition will surely enlighten your most efficient path forward, if you just looked closely within. We feel alike, you and I, and I can feel your frustrations and sorrow like an ice cold knife sinking in my chest. I truly hope you'll some day find the paradoxical and quite ironic humor in this hall of smoke and mirrors called the Earth experience, which seems to be taken as such serious business.

    See you on the other side.
     
    All I have been doing is trying to connect with others, my entire life. I tend to gravitate towards those with the most pain, as I feel a great need to help heal suffering. Unfortunately, those in great pain tend to lash out at me the most (see above) and cannot seem to let it go when I say or do something that digs out that pain. I am not trying to dig out anyways pain, but maybe I am just trying to help others heal. 

    I am not in a hurry with my soul group, I am aware that no matter what happens, we have bonds that are not going anywhere. I just feel those connections and wish I could help, I can see them struggling, I can feel their sadness as well as the sadness of all those around me, and it’s not in me to ignore it. I can see it in every situation I find myself in, where people are hurting, struggling and needing support. I am here in the name of the One Infinite Creator, as a Sister of Sorrow. Sorrow is what called me here, and there is an endless amount of it, sometimes it feels like I’m being suffocated by it, but I am also aware of how much I can handle it. As an example…

    When my husband and I split up 7 years ago, he sent me the longest email of my life, pretty much dissing the entire 6 years we spent together as the most awful, twisted event that had ever happened. He could not see what our relationship was through his own pain. I never replied to the email, I accepted it as where he was at mentally, forgave him, and moved on from it. As another example, my first ex husband ignored me while I had overdosed on pills, thinking I was faking it, so he allowed me to “die” while he continue on with his day. One confusing text I sent to my friend, is the only reason I am here today. I forgave him for that too. I do not hold on to pain, I hold nothing against anyone. If someone is angry with me, I feel it’s a reflection of their own pain and something they need to heal in themselves, as I do no feel angry at anyone. More often than not, it’s just sad people have such a hard time letting go and letting themselves find healing, and because I seem to dig out that pain naturally, people tend to lash out at me as a result. 

    This is nothing new for me. My partner has had memories of us helping souls trapped in the astral plane. There was this one soul who was trapped deeply in a hell of their own making. They were making a knife manifest in anyone’s hand who tried to help them, and then making that person slit their own throat. They would “die”, get booted out of the manifestation of that soul’s own personal hell, and then go back in. My partner tried desperately to help, but was not making headway. I stepped in and tried, again, and again, and again… ”dying” over and over again by my own hand in order to help this soul break free. My partner told me to be careful, as it was going to leave a mark on me, and I said “No, I’m helping him, let me keep trying.” Apparently I helped him break free, and my partner thinks this soul might be my son Orion is this lifetime. It did leave a mark, as it left an energetic imprint on me, I can feel it.

    I may come across as naive, but I am anything but. I understand pain, suffering and sorrow in ways I wish I never did, because I can relate to anyone, in any state of mind, whether they are a murder, rapist, or just someone who is looking for their self worth. My love in unconditional to anyone who wants it.

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    Diana (Offline)

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    07-20-2022, 10:47 AM
    (07-20-2022, 10:08 AM)Spiritualchaos Wrote: ...I may come across as naive, but I am anything but. I understand pain, suffering and sorrow in ways I wish I never did, because I can relate to anyone, in any state of mind, whether they are a murder, rapist, or just someone who is looking for their self worth. My love in unconditional to anyone who wants it.

    I do understand much of what you have posted. Brothers and sisters of sorrow indeed, and I am your sister in that. I would only say, aside from continuing to walk your unique path, take care of yourself as well as others. Perhaps you don't hang onto the pain of others or your own pain, but it can accumulate as an aggregate of experience, here in this existence so full of suffering.

    It's mitigated and balanced by two things for me: nature, and taking advantage of opportunities to express childlike joy. For example, occasionally I visit people I know, and when I do, I completely give myself over to the situation and engage in whatever they are doing, and laugh and carry on with much silliness. In my natural, private setting, I am very serious and approach life as a mission-oriented person. But we are all different and must do things our own way at any given point in Earth time while we are here. 

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    07-20-2022, 01:37 PM (This post was last modified: 07-20-2022, 01:39 PM by tadeus.)
    I will try to answer to so much pain with some humour:

    In the sense of the "New Age Spiritual Movement" it seems really attractive and effective to avoid suffering, just by disregarding anything negative.  CrackingUp

    The advice from Diana to "laugh and carry on with much silliness" is a good one - specially when there seems no solution in sight to heal the suffering and pain.

    This is "only" one incarnation of many and it is not always possible to reach the individual life plan. Just enjoy the moment and the show.
    Prepare for a big show ongoing - maybe this is the only way and must happen - maybe it is the only way to find a solution - be patiently.

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    07-21-2022, 10:58 AM
    (07-20-2022, 10:08 AM)Spiritualchaos Wrote: I am not trying to dig out anyways pain, but maybe I am just trying to help others heal.

    Some would say that the best way to hold one's candle up to the darkness is not to seek darkness outside the self (for instance, in others), but to seek the Heart of Self, the Light of Self, the very Core of Self within.

    Of course, this is very difficult because when we go in there to seek the light, what we find is darkness.

    The CRAZY irony is that the light is sitting there right next to darkness, just as in the yin-yang symbol.  It's actually right there in almost plain sight.

    We are guided to reach that place of true repose through our faith, our will to serve, our will to seek our own truest vibration.

    I wish you Godspeed in your seeking.
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    07-23-2022, 09:06 AM (This post was last modified: 07-23-2022, 09:16 AM by Spiritualchaos.)
    (07-20-2022, 10:47 AM)Diana Wrote:
    (07-20-2022, 10:08 AM)Spiritualchaos Wrote: ...I may come across as naive, but I am anything but. I understand pain, suffering and sorrow in ways I wish I never did, because I can relate to anyone, in any state of mind, whether they are a murder, rapist, or just someone who is looking for their self worth. My love in unconditional to anyone who wants it.

    I do understand much of what you have posted. Brothers and sisters of sorrow indeed, and I am your sister in that. I would only say, aside from continuing to walk your unique path, take care of yourself as well as others. Perhaps you don't hang onto the pain of others or your own pain, but it can accumulate as an aggregate of experience, here in this existence so full of suffering.

    It's mitigated and balanced by two things for me: nature, and taking advantage of opportunities to express childlike joy. For example, occasionally I visit people I know, and when I do, I completely give myself over to the situation and engage in whatever they are doing, and laugh and carry on with much silliness. In my natural, private setting, I am very serious and approach life as a mission-oriented person. But we are all different and must do things our own way at any given point in Earth time while we are here. 

    Heart

    Thank you so much for this, as it touched my heart deeply to hear your words. I feel things deeply but I have found so many ways of making it easier for me, and the two things you have suggested are a part of my daily life. I walk around feeling like a raw nerve all the time, so I had to find ways in order to survive over the years. I spend many hours a day sitting outside in nature, gardening, smoking weed (which has been a savior for my peace of mind the last fifteen years) and contemplating. I technically live in the middle of a forest in the mountains (in a small city) so I am blessed with an abundance of nature all around me, just sitting in the front yard of our place I can see the mountains and a couple of blocks away, I get an amazing view of the lake. 

    When it comes to childlike joy, I have a toddler who likes to giggle and play silly games with me all day long, so I get put into that mindset often (which is a nice relief for when he’s being defiant and yelling at everything). My partner also seems to single out all the hilarious stuff on the internet, that shares our sense of humor. We tend to be more serious these days, so grounding is important for our whole family, as we are all quite sensitive in our own way.

    The last thing that has saved me, is music. I adore music of all kinds, and my son only wants to listen to music, he has no interest in kids shows, pretty much since he was 6 months old. He tries to sing along to the “ooohs” and “ahhhs” in the song, it’s very cute and it fills my heart full of joy. The intensity of emotional expression in music is so beautiful and it always fills me with peace to sing along and feel what they feel.

    Thank you for everything you have done to bring love and light to these boards since I have been a part of them, you have always been so positive and welcoming, and I thank you greatly for your service. Love and Light to you dear Sister of Sorrow.

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