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How otherselves view positivity - Cainite - 02-15-2017 Greetings fellow seekers You may have noticed this too. People think those who have progressed further on the STO path are either naive or weak. They think everything about us is boring, our attitude is uncool.. or that we can't stand up for ourselves or fight back (fighting negativity with negativity that is). My friends say they want the old me back (The uncaring, cold, psycho, more fun me). They don't like the recent consciously positive me. They see my intense compassion for children and animals as feminine. Is this something we should just accept? or am I doing sth wrong here? RE: How otherselves view positivity - Jade - 02-15-2017 I don't think you're doing anything wrong. Quote:80.10 Questioner: Now, the fifteenth archetype, which is the Matrix of the Spirit, has been called the Devil. Can you tell me why that is so? RE: How otherselves view positivity - Coordinate_Apotheosis - 02-15-2017 Literally this, I'd recommend listening to Jade on this matter. She knows what she's talking about. I never understood why feminine traits in a man are considered unattractive or bad. Though to be fair, I'm fairly feminine overall myself so... RE: How otherselves view positivity - Jade - 02-16-2017 Thanks, Van. ![]() ![]() It's a symptom of our society, sadly. For millennia, women were forced to repress their divine masculine and men were forced to repress their divine feminine. In the past century, women have been able to reclaim some of their masculinity. Men are still struggling with the same "revolution". To all my girly men out there, keep fighting the good fight! Grow that hair long, cry, be physically dainty, and do whatever else you can to snub the generic idea of "masculinity" that explicitly lacks femininity. RE: How otherselves view positivity - Nía - 02-16-2017 I've only just started reading it (finally), but the latest Q'uo channelling seems to be falling into a related category: Quote:Group question: Several of us in the group are struggling with the world which seems to judge or reject us so often, whether it’s about our past, our choices, our spiritual beliefs, or some other aspect of our lives. We feel comfortable with ourselves in those things, but feel uncomfortable or hurt when met with judgement or rejection from others. It can also lead to feelings of isolation and loneliness. How can we relate to this catalyst of discomfort or hurt feelings? How can we find a place of comfort within ourselves which can withstand pressures from society, and how can we cope with feelings of isolation brought by our choices, beliefs, or experiences? http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2017/2017_0121.aspx -`ღ´- RE: How otherselves view positivity - Aion - 02-16-2017 I think it is something like weightlessness. If you feel weighed down by your sense of self then it probably isn't your most positive sense of self. I am someone who often feels 'heavy' in myself and when I do have breakthroughs of positivity it's like breaking through the surface of water to breath fresh air. RE: How otherselves view positivity - Nía - 02-16-2017 Quo Wrote:So, when you find yourself in a situation in which you are opposed by those who disagree with your point of view and judge you for it, we would suggest first that you look at the situation as we see it: you have begun to see clearly the nature of reality. You have found yourself in relationship with another who has not; you have been blessed and the other would rather curse you, shall we say, and yet, it is their own state of ignorance and sleepfulness that keeps them shackled to a restricted point of view. If you can begin to color your relationship with such entities with the color of compassion, to begin first to see that it is not so much you with which they disagree, it is that which you propose or propound; that which you expose them to: a dimly felt experience of love, of light, of unity which begins to shake their perception of reality. It causes them to fear they shall fall from the shaky craft that floats upon the sea of consciousness and drown in the waters of this so-called “unconditional love and unity” of which you speak. Thus, they feel greatly threatened for their very lives, for their thoughts, for their feelings, for their present, for their future, for all that they hold dear. RE: How otherselves view positivity - Nía - 02-16-2017 From the same session: Quo Wrote:Now, we have said before, the first step in separation is always the separation of self from itself, and it is only when the self finds itself separated from itself that it is truly vulnerable to the experience of separating that comes upon it from another. The moral to that story is simply this: When you feel the sting of the judgment of another—the other having separated itself from you, and generally placed itself above you in the order of value—when you feel this sting, if sting it does do, it is only because there is already the opening or aperture to the sting carried in your being. RE: How otherselves view positivity - Nía - 02-21-2017 Hi Cainite (and others), you might find some comfort in the latest Q'uo session, which was about polarity, feminine and masculine principles, gender and equality: http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2017/2017_0204.aspx -`ღ´- RE: How otherselves view positivity - Diana - 02-21-2017 It can be challenging to not be "as the herd" is. And sometimes friends diverge down different paths. Deep connections remain in place though, no matter how much anyone changes. I think it's more difficult for men, at least the men I know who are out of the societal box. The bottom line is: would you want to go back to your "old self." There is no easy answer, except to persevere with your own path, and accept the paths of others. I just try to act with kindness, and try not to need anything. RE: How otherselves view positivity - Raz - 02-22-2017 "I never understood why feminine traits in a man are considered unattractive or bad." between me and my girlfriend (after 7 days of being an official couple) just a little earlier tonight, over a skype video call, I told her I had to reveal something about my self, (in a serious joke tone) "I am a lesbian woman in a mans body, I hope this wont be to much of an issue". Her response was; "Well that´s no problem, I am a homosexual man in a womens body" and we had a good laugh ![]() RE: How otherselves view positivity - Agua del Cielo - 02-23-2017 Over the years i found that relationships are carefully balanced energysystems. when you change the Energy of one part, either the other Parts have to change, too, or the relationships will not Last for much longer. in your case, when you become more conscious and the feminine side awakens, the challenged for your friends is: they no longer can be so "superficial" in your presence. this would mean, they arme for ed to Look at things they formerly ignored (in themselves for example). they might not be willing or even capable of doing so. also, when your "feminine" side awakens (but maybe only your "Image" of masculine changed; the masculine is also warm, compassionate and caring, it's just the distorted masculine that isnt) yourfriends are being confronted with more Emotion and compassion. this will also make their emotions and compassion arise, which would mean, First thing they encounter are the reasons why they blocked it out in the First place. I experienced this quite a few times on my path. relationships would change, friendships would dissolve, Job would suddenly become unbearable. Many times People around took the opportunity and also changed. And sometimes Friends would dissappear and new friendships would appear. this is by the way a major unconscious obstacle on the spiritual path. Related persons unconsciously try to keep you in the "Same place" evolutionwise and we have the Same fear deep down. The fear, that the relationship might dissolve when one Part makes a Major step in evolution. In the end it is always perfect, looking back, all the changes in relationships were to the best of all! |