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RE: Getting to know our Confederation - Aion - 11-26-2015
I disagree, a negative entity would literally be unable to provide the same kind of service because they would no longer be operating under the need for infringement. It just doesn't make sense. I think what you are presenting is a 'romantic' idea attempting to establish 'equality' but I think it actually is denying the idea of growth for 'negative entities' as though they are perpetually going to be of the same mind and intent forever for all time.
Do you see how people seem to not want to 'lose' negativity? How they will create every manner of justification for its continuation?
Always wanting to have the cake and to eat it too.
RE: Getting to know our Confederation - Minyatur - 11-26-2015
(11-26-2015, 02:24 PM)Aion Wrote: I disagree, a negative entity would literally be unable to provide the same kind of service because they would no longer be operating under the need for infringement. It just doesn't make sense. I think what you are presenting is a 'romantic' idea attempting to establish 'equality' but I think it actually is denying the idea of growth for 'negative entities' as though they are perpetually going to be of the same mind and intent forever for all time.
Do you see how people seem to not want to 'lose' negativity? How they will create every manner of justification for its continuation?
Always wanting to have the cake and to eat it too.
Of course I want cake and to eat it too. Why else would there be cakes?
I'd call it remnants of identity. One can assists others in their negative polarity and infringements yet work with positive intents.
RE: Getting to know our Confederation - Aion - 11-26-2015
(11-26-2015, 05:26 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:(11-26-2015, 02:24 PM)Aion Wrote: I disagree, a negative entity would literally be unable to provide the same kind of service because they would no longer be operating under the need for infringement. It just doesn't make sense. I think what you are presenting is a 'romantic' idea attempting to establish 'equality' but I think it actually is denying the idea of growth for 'negative entities' as though they are perpetually going to be of the same mind and intent forever for all time.
Do you see how people seem to not want to 'lose' negativity? How they will create every manner of justification for its continuation?
Always wanting to have the cake and to eat it too.
Of course I want cake and to eat it too. Why else would there be cakes?
I'd call it remnants of identity. One can assists others in their negative polarity and infringements yet work with positive intents.
That doesn't make any sense, lol. If the intention is positive and the view of the self is complete then that would be akin to enslaving the self. Why would that kind of activity continue in to 6D? It would be a complete ignorance of all the wisdom gained through 5D. I'm sorry, but I think you're just clinging to a romanticized ideal of 'negativity' that doesn't actually have to do with polarity but with personality traits.
Seems to me to just be another justification towards clinging to the negative polarity. As though it is 'unfair' to the negative, but the positive polarity goes through the same dissolution and need to accept their opposite. They just have more practice with acceptance. Ra suggests that the Higher Self is always positively oriented, otherwise it couldn't exist as it does as an aid to the self from the self and it is this realization that causes negative entities to abandon their polarity for unity.
I think you maybe treat the 'loss of polarity' as something which is lamentable and so you cling to any way to bring the identification of it in to the realms of unity so that you can feel the universe is 'fair' to everyone. Maybe I'm totally wrong though.
RE: Getting to know our Confederation - Aion - 11-26-2015
Also, the saying means that you want to possess the cake while still eating it, a physical impossibility. Once it is eaten you no longer possess it.
RE: Getting to know our Confederation - Minyatur - 11-26-2015
(11-26-2015, 06:28 PM)Aion Wrote:(11-26-2015, 05:26 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:(11-26-2015, 02:24 PM)Aion Wrote: I disagree, a negative entity would literally be unable to provide the same kind of service because they would no longer be operating under the need for infringement. It just doesn't make sense. I think what you are presenting is a 'romantic' idea attempting to establish 'equality' but I think it actually is denying the idea of growth for 'negative entities' as though they are perpetually going to be of the same mind and intent forever for all time.
Do you see how people seem to not want to 'lose' negativity? How they will create every manner of justification for its continuation?
Always wanting to have the cake and to eat it too.
Of course I want cake and to eat it too. Why else would there be cakes?
I'd call it remnants of identity. One can assists others in their negative polarity and infringements yet work with positive intents.
That doesn't make any sense, lol. If the intention is positive and the view of the self is complete then that would be akin to enslaving the self. Why would that kind of activity continue in to 6D? It would be a complete ignorance of all the wisdom gained through 5D. I'm sorry, but I think you're just clinging to a romanticized ideal of 'negativity' that doesn't actually have to do with polarity but with personality traits.
Seems to me to just be another justification towards clinging to the negative polarity. As though it is 'unfair' to the negative, but the positive polarity goes through the same dissolution and need to accept their opposite. They just have more practice with acceptance. Ra suggests that the Higher Self is always positively oriented, otherwise it couldn't exist as it does as an aid to the self from the self and it is this realization that causes negative entities to abandon their polarity for unity.
I think you maybe treat the 'loss of polarity' as something which is lamentable and so you cling to any way to bring the identification of it in to the realms of unity so that you can feel the universe is 'fair' to everyone. Maybe I'm totally wrong though.
I don't really care about polarity, I care about polarized individualized portions of what we all are.
RE: Getting to know our Confederation - Minyatur - 11-26-2015
(11-26-2015, 06:30 PM)Aion Wrote: Also, the saying means that you want to possess the cake while still eating it, a physical impossibility. Once it is eaten you no longer possess it.
You just portrayed the sadness/beauty of Creation within a cake, beautiful.
RE: Getting to know our Confederation - Aion - 11-26-2015
(11-26-2015, 07:33 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:(11-26-2015, 06:28 PM)Aion Wrote:(11-26-2015, 05:26 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:(11-26-2015, 02:24 PM)Aion Wrote: I disagree, a negative entity would literally be unable to provide the same kind of service because they would no longer be operating under the need for infringement. It just doesn't make sense. I think what you are presenting is a 'romantic' idea attempting to establish 'equality' but I think it actually is denying the idea of growth for 'negative entities' as though they are perpetually going to be of the same mind and intent forever for all time.
Do you see how people seem to not want to 'lose' negativity? How they will create every manner of justification for its continuation?
Always wanting to have the cake and to eat it too.
Of course I want cake and to eat it too. Why else would there be cakes?
I'd call it remnants of identity. One can assists others in their negative polarity and infringements yet work with positive intents.
That doesn't make any sense, lol. If the intention is positive and the view of the self is complete then that would be akin to enslaving the self. Why would that kind of activity continue in to 6D? It would be a complete ignorance of all the wisdom gained through 5D. I'm sorry, but I think you're just clinging to a romanticized ideal of 'negativity' that doesn't actually have to do with polarity but with personality traits.
Seems to me to just be another justification towards clinging to the negative polarity. As though it is 'unfair' to the negative, but the positive polarity goes through the same dissolution and need to accept their opposite. They just have more practice with acceptance. Ra suggests that the Higher Self is always positively oriented, otherwise it couldn't exist as it does as an aid to the self from the self and it is this realization that causes negative entities to abandon their polarity for unity.
I think you maybe treat the 'loss of polarity' as something which is lamentable and so you cling to any way to bring the identification of it in to the realms of unity so that you can feel the universe is 'fair' to everyone. Maybe I'm totally wrong though.
I don't really care about polarity, I care about polarized individualized portions of what we all are.
That's contradictory. At least, if you talk about 6D+, they are no longer polarized.
RE: Getting to know our Confederation - Aion - 11-26-2015
(11-26-2015, 07:35 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:(11-26-2015, 06:30 PM)Aion Wrote: Also, the saying means that you want to possess the cake while still eating it, a physical impossibility. Once it is eaten you no longer possess it.
You just portrayed the sadness/beauty of Creation within a cake, beautiful.
This is why we must love the cake. If we do not eat it, it spoils and goes from your possession without you ever having tasted.
RE: Getting to know our Confederation - The_Tired_Philosopher - 11-27-2015
(11-26-2015, 04:02 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: I'm not really in the mood to hunt through the 90-106 sessions atm but I swear Ra remarks about how they have their own polarity they raise to become what that quote says, closer to unified l/l.
Which also bugged me via literally that quote apw.
I'm not conflicting with you. I'm discussing, if you sense conflict it is all your own.
I discuss the Ra Material too, but it seems I'm the only one noticing many contradictions. Or maybe I'm recalling later sessions in my memory wrongly.
But beyond that, I question the accuracy of the Material pertaining to other channeled info when used together.
Maybe one day I'll start a thread pointing them out so people can help me rectify if it is contradicting or one of those 'same difference' contexts where I just have the ideals and concepts skewed.
So please feel free to 'argue' with me, you're all More informed than I so I enjoy the exchanges
I'm not arguing, or at least I don't intend to sound that way.
I can agree 5D+ stops warring or participating in war, I don't think that means they stop participating in war-like behavior. Its Wiser to pick and choose battles than to take on the Universe maybe.
Random question, am I the only one who refers to Ra as a She?
I went looking and couldn't find it...
Except I did find some info regards polarity in 6D as existing.
"69.9 Questioner: Can you tell me the situation that the Wanderer finds himself in and the path back, why that path could not be the simple moving back into positive time/space?
Ra: I am Ra. The path back revolves, firstly, about the Higher Self’s reluctance to enter negative space/time. This may be a significant part of the length of that path. Secondly, when a positively oriented entity incarnates in a thoroughly negative environment it must needs learn/teach the lessons of the love of self thus becoming one with its other-selves.
When this has been accomplished the entity may then choose to release the potential difference and change polarities.
However, the process of learning the accumulated lessons of love of self may be quite lengthy. Also the entity, in learning these lessons, may lose much positive orientation during the process and the choice of reversing polarities may be delayed until the mid-sixth-density. All of this is, in your way of measurement, time-consuming although the end result is well."
Not just that but 6D goes on 'time' differently from our 'continuum'. We are in a time continuum separate the 'Now Time' 6D+ begins operating within. They can view our entire continuum maybe even like how one cam read a book or stop and rewind a video.
Polarity probably exists in a similar way, its not 'polarity of a paradigm' but love/light light/love balance ratios maybe.
After a point, 7D provides a Mbs totality complex thoughtform (a copy of itself??) And this complex or Infinitely Complex Thoughtform offers its resources to the mid 6D Higher Self to get an idea of the probability/possibility vortices across parallel existences of that Entity(s?) To better program experiences to occur.
At late 6D the entity provides its past a Higher Self to overlook its own development. As it looks back in 7D you'll probably notice how The 6 and 7D entities began self-creating their own experiences of the past to get to where they are now, in 'looking back' you might say the full big picture is shown and spiritual mass occurs (you acquire denser Being from Enlightenment of sorts in a very pure and high intensity mannerism? -lacking words- )
Eitherwho, Ra speaks of polarity a few times in even 6D, but I think things are less <> and more... 'x'. Its all a ratio of balance to closer and closer and closer be the One original way to be via same/different aspects of various subtle degrees of how there is to be upon 6D. Less paradigm more United on Square 6 of the Playing board.
(I just had a great Infinity board game idea omg! -pulls out notebook and pen- -stops post to write down-)
Anywho. I swore Ra spoke of their own polarity at some point. I wish the search function understood Context..
RE: Getting to know our Confederation - Minyatur - 11-27-2015
(11-26-2015, 10:05 PM)Aion Wrote: That's contradictory. At least, if you talk about 6D+, they are no longer polarized.
This Creation is full of brothers and sisters.