Ra said that Creation was infinite.

Does this mean that the manifested Creation is also infinite?

Are there infinitely many stars and beings?

"infinitely many" might be the wrong word, because manyness is a finite concept according to Ra.

I'm curious.

Is Ra referring to here in 3rd density where there is quick and cruel catalyst?

Or is it more in 4th density where your thoughts (including your shadow) manifest things immediately?

Quote:95.24 ▶ Questioner: From that statement I interpret the following meaning: That if the Experience of the Mind has sufficiently chosen the right-hand path, as total purity is approached in choosing of the right-hand path, then total imperviousness from the effect of the left-hand catalyst is also approached. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is exquisitely perceptive. The seeker which has purely chosen the service-to-others path shall certainly not have a variant apparent incarnational experience. There is no outward shelter in your illusion from the gusts, flurries, and blizzards of quick and cruel catalyst.

However, to the pure, all that is encountered speaks of the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator. The cruelest blow is seen with an ambiance of challenges offered and opportunities to come. Thusly, the great pitch of light is held high above such an one so that all interpretation may be seen to be protected by light.

Hey guys so I am just discovering all this stuff.....as far as anyone knows has the whole series of books or conversations been translated in terms easier to understand?? I am REALLY interested in this I kinda came to my own beliefs recently and in researching it matches up real nicely with this. However a lot of the wording confuses me...I never even officially graduated high school ended up droping out and getting my GED when I was 16 (I am now 33) so some of these words and phrases I don't understand. And there is sooooooo much material that it will take forever to read it all anyway but if I have to stop and look up the definition for every few words well I will never be able to read it all! I have found bits and pieces translated to simpler words but was wondering if the entire thing has ever been translated in this way? or maybe you guys know other bits and pieces that I could add to the bits and pieces I have already found. Maybe I can put them togather and get a bigger picture of the entire thing. Any help or advice would really be appreciated! THANKS GUYS!!

From Secrets of the UFO, page 126:

There were several statements made in THE SAUCERS SPEAK that are significant in connection with these "Wanderers" or "Apples."
"Seeds may be planted but they can rot and never reach maturity." This means that the people of outer space knew what was going to develop on Earth.They "planted" some of their own people here; "salted" them away like "apples." But every seed that is planted or "Salted away" does not growand reach maturity;it may rot in the ground because of many conditions. Therefore some of the "Wanderers" now on Earth do not know who they are - they are lost in the ways of the Earth, and on physical death will return to their own worlds. They will be none the worse for their experience, except that their mission will not be accomplished.
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Later, I hear Carla said in the Wanderer's handbook that Wanderers have the same mission as that of Earth natives: to "graduate" from 3rd density and make harvest.

This first part contradicts the second. May this be because Secrets of the UFO was written in a time before Ra contact?

Am I wrong about this? I'm a little confused now that I read that part.

Also, I am unsure if this is the proper place in the forum to post this kind of question. I figured it would either be here or the L/L channelings part of the forum. My apologies if I made a mistake posting here.

Anyway, what do you guys make of that part of the book? Was it mistaken? Or do Wanderers really return to their homeworlds, even if they "failed" their mission?

'The remaining part of the cycle, we have never been gone from your fifth dimension'

I'm pretty convinced they're the blue avians.
I feel like they are the ascended, of the reptilian race.
What did avians evolve from?

Hello and good morning. I hope this post finds you well!

This discussion is probably redundant but I did do a search and didn't find quite what I was looking for.

I am revisiting the Ra material and am interested in trying to understand it further. Ra mentions sleep a few times and I have provided some of the passages below that I have questions about.

It seems like Ra uses the word "sleep" interchangeably between spiritual and physical rest. I don't think we have a word for the spiritual rest that Ra speaks about. The closest word we have is "rejuvenation" but I'm not sure that really covers all the aspect of the purpose of spiritual sleep. Does anyone know of a better word for it?

Quote:89.30 ▶ Questioner: Would Ra’s attitude toward the same unharvestable entities be different at this nexus than at the time of harvest of third density?

Ra: I am Ra. Not substantially. To those who wish to sleep we could only offer those comforts designed for the sleeping. Service is only possible to the extent it is requested. We were ready to serve in whatever way we could. This still seems satisfactory as a means of dealing with other-selves in third density. It is our feeling that to be each entity which one attempts to serve is to simplify the grasp of what service is necessary or possible.

Quote:Ra: I am Ra. There are several. However, their uses are limited. The use of the resonating chamber position is one which challenges the ability of an adept to face the self. This is one type of mental test which may be used. It is powerful and quite dangerous.

The outer shell of the pyramid shape contains small vortices of light energy which, in the hands of capable crystallized beings, are useful for various subtle workings upon the healing of invisible bodies affecting the physical body.

Other of these places are those wherein perfect sleep may be obtained and age reversed. These characteristics are not important.

Quote:21.9 ▶ Questioner: Now, when the 75,000-year cycle started, [the] life span was approximately nine hundred years, average. What was the process and scheduling of— mechanism, shall I say, of reincarnation at that time, and how did the time in between incarnations into third-density physical apply to the growth of the mind/body/spirit complex?

Ra: I am Ra. This query is more complex than most. We shall begin. The incarnation pattern of the beginning third-density mind/body/spirit complex begins in darkness, for you may think or consider of your density as one of, as you may say, a sleep and a forgetting. This is the only plane of forgetting. It is necessary for the third-density entity to forget so that the mechanisms of confusion or free will may operate upon the newly individuated consciousness complex.

Looking for a greater synthesis, I have begun to compare the material which came out of the Ra contact with that of the "Cassiopaean Experiment".

I understand that the approach of the Cassiopaean community is not in alignment with that of the Bring4th community. I have yet to read a clear and full explanation of the differences, but it is obvious that, relative to what has been expressed here, the Cassiopaean community and the key people involved block the green ray, and this is reflected in the differences in views which have grown over the years.

Assuming that 6D STO communication is involved in both projects, a key difference is that the Ra contact was narrow-band, and the Cassiopaean contact wide-band. What does this mean in terms of what is and is not transmitted?

Going by what Ra claimed, what was communicated cleanly reflected Ra's thinking. I.e., there seems to have been a straight line between the 6D mind and what was verbally "rendered". Errors appear to have entered at the level of syntax - words and numbers - with Ra's full knowledge, and sometimes followed by corrections.

In the case of the Cassiopaean material, it became clear and was expressed early on that what was communicated reflected those involved in each channeling session in addition to a higher source. The "wide-band" approach seems to have limited the depth of 6D connection relative to the material which was spelled out at the board. One benefit has however been a flawless syntax - no errors with words or numbers. Any errors appear at a higher level - the level of what is being expressed in the first place.

To the extent that 6D STO chooses what comes through in the case of the Cassiopaean material, errors are likely to be accompanied by symbolic information which makes it possible to find the errors. Finding them may however happen much later, and only if someone notices and figures something out. (My theory is that as long as the channeling is not detuned, all significant errors will be expressed or put in context in such a way that "debugging" is possible.)

Below, I have inserted one extremely clear-cut example of an error in the Cassiopaean material. It related to the accuracy of the Ra material. (That part of this post was also posted as a thread on the Cassiopaean Forum on the 8th of July, though discussion there has yet to take off.)

Added: Cassiopaean accuracy in the years of the earliest participants was explained as, "balancing fields are correct", which Laura Knight-Jadczyk interpreted as STS "Frank" vs. STO Laura cancelling out, allowing 6D STO through cleanly enough. But given the fundamental principle that STS constricts and distorts the flow, a compromise combination of the two does not explain it. But two opposed STS agendas cancelling out logically works. "Frank" left after the mid-90's, leaving one of the two STS agendas, no longer cancelled out.

Added later: A new section at the end of this post now provides "Further links and notes", following later discussion.


Truth percentages and Bad statistics

Cassiopaean Session 1997-12-31 mentions truth percentages, and the following numbers have been provided for the (older) Cassiopaean material and for the (old published version of) the Ra material:

Ra: ~63%
C's: 71.7%

The algorithm is: Total word count divided by true word count.

Added: This matches the language of the C's, but is really multiplicatively inverse to the percentage. (The concept may have temporarily changed from percentage to ratio without words to the effect.) So to make sense of it, and of the alternative algorithm below, swap what is on each side of "divided by". (End of addition.)

Counts of true, false, and neutral words are possible (by non-mechanical means), according to the information in the session. (Since words can be individually classified, it follows that a count of neutral words is also possible.)

The neutral word count is unused in calculating the percentages. The C's said that neutral "belong to the 37% as they cannot be counted subjectively as accurate".

However, there is one more alternative. Instead of counting neutral words as true (the rejected option) or as false (the option the C's used), they can be subtracted from the total word count for a non-neutral word count.

Alternative algorithm: Non-neutral word count divided by true word count.

Added: Again, there is the need to swap what is on each side of "divided by". (End of addition.)

This would increase the percentages. It would almost certainly increase the percentage more for the Ra material than it would do for the Cassiopaean material, given the style difference.

The Cassiopaean algorithm is bad because it lets noise skew the measurement, instead of filtering it out. The means for filtering are pre-provided if counts are available for all three word categories, as they apparently are.

This leads to the question: Why did the C's provide bad statistics, compared to what they could have provided with a trivial improvement of their algorithm? (Only the purely mechanical part of the process needed a small change.)

They also made a false claim in presenting the false dichotomy motivating their choice of algorithm (their choice of how to treat neutral words).

This is a riddle. This is exactly the kind of thing that someone can discern and point out on purely intellectual grounds. If the C's had wanted to lie, they could have presented a good algorithm and provided bad numbers, and there would have been no rational, clear-cut way to find and point out the flaw.

Instead, the C's did provide a bad algorithm, and this is the only thing I criticize regarding the percentages. The percentages are bad because the algorithm is flawed. Beyond that, other questions regarding the numbers remain as before.

Perhaps there is some kind of symbolic message in the choice of a bad algorithm. The theme is this: Counting the neutral as negative instead of counting according to (or focusing on) what matters. ("Counting" may symbolically be mapped to thinking, and/or perceiving, more generally. That's the track I'm exploring, anyway.)

I think it certainly wasn't an accident, whatever the specifics turn out to be. The C's know too much for it to be an accident. (Were it accidental, it would then be possible to immediately rule out the option that they are what they have claimed to be.) It may also be the case that they wanted the error to be found; otherwise, quite trivially, they could have presented something different.


On Ra and language

Comparing the language of Ra and the C's, the latter is obviously simpler. It is more straightforward to begin delving into, and more easy to work with point-by-point. At the level of concepts, Ra however presents them more cohesively. Those who focus on larger, abstract concepts as they read might find that Ra gives things in larger chunks, which are more precise and clear as a whole, compared to assembling units of meaning of the same size from the Cassiopaean material.

There's also style differences that I think have to do with differing aims of the communications. I think Ra knew the future and planned the material according to the future of the project, as it developed. Some symbolic information changed part-way through (Ra suddenly "corrected" some information which fairly obviously is not literal). Perhaps in order to make non-literal material current with a new timeline.

I think the Ra material may be a compressed information package for a time after it was delivered. Ra suggested that if only a few would "get it", then it could greatly help. What was meant by "getting it"?

There's also interesting little hints here and there when Ra cannot speak clearly for the sake of free will. Don Elkins asks about the life of Jesus, and Ra indicates that there's a problem with the question as it was asked, rather vaguely and for no apparent reason. A possible explanation is that the question could not be answered accurately, since the person asked about never existed. When Don rephrased the same question, Ra decided to fill the gap with a little metaphorical story-telling (where changes to the narrative, as it goes on, hints that it isn't to be taken as literally valid).

The most obvious level of indirection in the material is in terms of breaking up a piece of information, delivering the pieces independently, and making the retrieval of the information a matter of logical deduction. I'll give the example I have in mind.

Ra used the name prefix 'Mal-' for the planet which blew up, and indicated that the prefix meant it "stank", simply put. Then, later, of all the choices Ra had for naming the Earth while mentioning its "vibration", Ra used the name 'Malkuth'. Applying Ra's rule for the meaning of names in the material, simple logic has it that Ra unambiguously included "The Earth stinks" in the material. (The type of "bad smell" indicated is presumably the same for Earth and for the planet which blew up.)

There's also a greater open-endedness to Ra's presentation of the cosmology. Formulations are in terms of large, cosmic processes, with much of it left unexplored. Some questions of the limits of 6D knowledge are also covered. (In short, 6D cannot see beyond 6D, except in terms of perceiving how it relates to 7D. The structure of the cosmos requires the use of some type of 7D connection in order to read certain things pertaining to individual souls, though 6D is bounded in its use of such. Everything else appears to be an open book for 6D.)


Further links and notes

The Cassiopaean material can be found on the Cassiopaea forum, and older (1994-2002) sessions can also be found here.

A link shared several times by others is Montalk's Cassiopaea.org Disclaimer, which seems to be from 2006 but is still relevant. Describes the early Cassiopaean material as good, but 2003 as the year when cult-like psychological and spiritual corruption went beyond the point of no return for the Cassiopaean channel and community.

In posts below there's discussion of both the Cassiopaean material and community, but the later "Cassiopaea forum" thread focuses more on the community.

The RationalWiki article on Laura Knight-Jadczyk has changed a lot in 2021 and now gives a broad skeptical overview of everything tied to the Cassiopaean Experiment, describing some (but not all) of the most questionable stuff in the Cassiopaean channeling.

Hi dilly-ho, neighborinos! Well looks like someone's having a pre-rapture party. ;-) ((Sorry for the Ned Flanders' quote. hehehe))

Anyway, so I was called back to the Ra material and so here I am. I hope this post finds all of you well. It's summer in my part of the world and I have sweat off nearly 20 lbs trying to keep up with my kids.

So best frame my question, I will quote Ra,

Quote:"22.27 ▶ Questioner: I see. Then I will state the picture I have now of Atlantis and you can tell me if I’m correct.

We have a condition where a large enough number of the entities of Atlantis had started at least going in the direction of the Law of One and living the Law of One for their call to be heard by the Confederation. This call was heard because, using the Law of Squares, it overrode the opposition of the Atlantean entities that were not calling. The Confederation then used channels such as we use now for communication and also made contact directly, but this turned out to be a mistake because it was perverted by some of the entities of Atlantis. Is this correct?

Ra: This is correct with one exception. There is only one law. That is the Law of One. Other so-called laws are distortions of this law, some of them primal and most important for progress to be understood. However, it is well that each so-called law, which we also call “way,” be understood as a distortion rather than a law. There is no multiplicity to the Law of One.""

Quote:"All that the Law of the Squares does is to give you a route in which, if you've got your sum right, gives you the option to achieve your objective.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/jason-ver...996193310/

Quote:THE LAW OF THE SQUARES. By Prof. John Roy Robert Searl.
The law of the squares states that all things within this universe have two prime states. They are
opposites of which one will be greater in value than the other.
The law of the squares also states that there is a division between these two states.
Throughout my books you are shown hundreds of these samples. The one I shall discuss here is in
reference to the animal termed Homo sapiens – that is correct, it represents you and me.
Let us look at the law of the squares statements:
1 There will be the non experts that representing the higher value.
2 There will be experts that representing the lower value.
3 Between these two states is a very small dividing line of inventors.
Thus the law of the squares is up held.
4 The non experts live in the today, not the yesterday nor the tomorrow.
5 The expert does not live in the today but rather in the 1,000 to 5 years of the past.
6 The inventor lives in the tomorrow, for he or she creates the future that is to be.
Without inventors there would be no tomorrows but a continuation of the today, thus never changing
in any manner except for the change of seasons.
Inventors are labelled as living in a world of fantasy, while the so called experts claim to live in a
world of reality; ironically, that very claim proves that their world came from the world of fantasy by
those who suffered and struggled to create the present reality that these experts claim as their right.
Before any one can conceive a concept to generate some new invention a number of triggers have to
be in place.
.
1. The brain must be free from all conventional brainwashing so that the sub-conscious can freely
communicate to the conscious mind. Thus between these two states the data stored can be
made active by the correct input of our body’s sensors.
2 There must be information stored in the brain either at the time of its conception or gained
after birth at the expense of time.
3 Once the correct triggers have been stimulated so that the conscious or sub-conscious mind can
start searching and assembling a dream or a thought wave, data makes its way to the conscious
mind of the owner and impresses the owner with the possibility of creating a new project.
4 It is extremely unlikely that you can invent because the brain that creates does so based on
information that was invented already by brains of the past; even as far back as the day man
first appeared upon planet earth.
5 My work is based on the success of hundreds of inventors before me; my work has just
extended their work. They invented the materials, tools and equipment that make it possible
for me to extend their work.
6 Within the laws of nature there is nothing impossible except that the state of your mind makes
it so. And it is your mind which has and still does delay progress for a better world then we
have today.
7 In my case; the sub-conscience assembled an extremely simple game which strangely contains
the mathematics which is required to achieve this technology, without that input there is no
S.E.G. or I.G.V. Anyone making such claims is talking out their rear end, what a shame to
waste such energy.
8 It also gives much information on science and technology, which was a blessing as I had no
need to go to school to learn it.
9 The device is basically a linear motor riding on a magnetic bearing; in reality there are three
such units in one body.
10 Its characteristics are similar to that of an autotransformer; again three such devices in one
body.
11 From the inner unit which generates its own output that feeds into the second unit that is also
generating its own, but much greater output, is therefore boosted vastly by the input from the
first unit. The second unit output is then feed into the third unit which also is generating a
much larger output is again vastly increased by the input from the second unit.
12 Every operation of the S.E.G. follows Newton’s laws precisely, these experts’ claims that it is
not possible are just protecting their image of importance. Such has always been the case since
this animal called Homo sapiens arrive upon the planet earth and will always exist until the
end of time.
13 Not only is the problem to design and test the specialised equipment to undertake this research;
but one of the real major problems is that there are far too many of this species that suffer from
an obsessive compulsive disorder that functions on ignorance and greed. There is no more
dangerous combination that has so far managed to delay this technology from reaching its
marketplace, and would had done so back in 1968 and again in 2003 if it was not for the
effects relating to this disease.
14 Today for the fifth time efforts to recreate this technology are moving forward but cost is the
greatest problem which increases each year that it takes to reach the marketplace. There is yet
another major problem for delay. This is that the man involved has to live and therefore has to
maintain a job by which he can survive and find from his pocket that cost which is involved.
Time is related to availability of hard cash and spare time to work on it. It also requires
absolute dedication and devotion and faith for its success and this man has all three
requirements for such a success.
15 This world is dying from pollution factors which this technology offers a solution that no other
technology can offer. Yet everyone ignores its possibilities because the power man of today
would loose profit by such a technology being available on the marketplace.
16 Yet it would slowly halt this hurrican forming problem now greatly being experienced along
the U.S.A. coast line, which will eventually reach places like Canada and even the UK if we
allow this global warming to increase.
17 Is it humane for life and property to be destroyed in the name of ignorance and greed?
18 You may wonder if the S.E.G. output is Direct Current or Alternating Current. It is an
Alternating Current at very high voltage that has to be passed through a step down transformer
for the voltage required like all other power systems available today; current is proportional to
the voltage.
19 Rare earths play an important part in the success of the S.E.G. operation. The one that has
become the keystone of my work is Nd because everyone wants to follow the same one that I
used in 1946. It is far from the best but it is the first choice for cost and availability.
20 One major problem is that it looses electrons to the air. As such it will oxidize in air. This can
be prevented by the following means:
1 Keep it in argon while not in use which is the better choice; or in oil which is the
choice that I do not prefer.
2 Or mix 1% of another rare earth which does not loose electrons to the air that will
block the Nd from loosing its electrons to the air.
3 As you move up the element chart there are better options to use. Also it makes the
S.E.G. smaller for the same output.
21 To experts it’s impossible as they had stated about the cycle, motor car, Train, Plane,
Electricity, gas, telephone, and television and space travel plus everything else made or done
by man, in reality they were confirming that it could be done, and it was only done by those
who lived in the world of fantasy, for it is only such people who are capable of free thinking
by which progress in advancing man’s knowledge can be achieved.
22 Everything made by man came out of the world of fantasy which existed there before man ever
appeared on earth including all inventions of the future have been here since time began. But
before any such invention can be brought forth from the world of fantasy into the world of
reality some ingenious person must tune in to it; that action requires a set of triggers in a
precise order of events and then and only then will such products become available to
mankind.
23 Though the S.E.G. is a marvellous device it can only reduce the pollution problem which helps
to reduce global warming that will give trees and animals a chance to survive. It will require
everyone to help to clean up this planet as we made the mess due to our lack of knowledge and
understanding and replant trees which in our ignorance have been cut down. These are urgent
requirements to block the creation of hurricanes and tornados.
24 It takes about 30 years before a tree can fully function in its duty cycle in reducing this global
warming, clearly the need is present today to start a massive replacement task in the effort to
balance nature to our advantage, otherwise it will be to our disadvantage.
25 If you really care for your children’s health and well fare then you must act today and help
clean up these problems, To assist me to do my best to help nature to recover from our wrongs
which we have done and are still doing.
26 Listen to our children who have no tomorrows if we don’t care; our ignorance and greed is
killing this planet. If we don’t stop our destruction of this planet there will be no tomorrows
for anyone. There will be just a resting place for our remains.

https://www.searleffect.com/free/press/U...RTICLE.pdf

Quote:60.16:



"Let us expand upon this point. When we were aided by sixth-density entities during our own third-density experiences we, being less bellicose in the extreme, found this teaching to be of help. In our naïveté in third density we had not developed the interrelationships of your barter or money system and power. We were, in fact, a more philosophical third-density planet than your own and our choices of polarity were much more centered about the, shall we say, understanding of sexual energy transfers and the appropriate relationships between self and other-self.


We spent a much larger portion of our space/time working with the unmanifested being. In this less complex atmosphere it was quite instructive to have this learn/teaching device and we benefited without the distortions we found occurring among your peoples.


We have recorded these differences meticulously in the Great Record of Creation that such naïveté shall not be necessary again."