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      Harvest after death or in 3D?
    Posted by: rinzler - 09-24-2019, 09:51 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (7)

    So the Law of One says that it will occur approximately in 2011 or some time around that. Is it a physical even that is going to happen in the 3D world or does it happen after death?
    "Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest will occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest."


    The Cassiopeans have said that 90% of the people will survive or something around that.Here:
    "Q: (T) Okay. So, when they talk about 90 per cent of the population not surviving, it is not that they are going to die, but that they are going to transform. We are going to go up a level. This is what the whole light thing is all about?

    A: Or another possibility is that the physical cataclysms will occur only for those “left behind” on the remaining 3rd level density earth."


    So does anyone know what its going to be like ?
    They say that 90% of the population is simply going to dissapear(into the 4th density without actually dying?) and the ones left behind are going to be the "damned" ones like in the bible with the rapture thing?
    Didn't everyone say that it was going to happen in 2012?
    By now I've heard all kinds of opinions on this and I'm just not sure what to believe...

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      Fifth Density Positive
    Posted by: AnthroHeart - 09-22-2019, 03:58 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (3)

    Do 5D positive always select a social memory complex?

    Or is there a reason for a 5D positive to go individually?

    Because you have that choice in 5D.

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      How to turn anger in love
    Posted by: Loki - 09-20-2019, 11:05 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (21)

    One of the most interesting answers from Ra is part of session 46 and it relates to how anger needs to be handled.

    Here is the fragment I am talking about:

    Quote:Ra: The entity polarizing positively perceives the anger. This entity, if using this catalyst mentally, blesses and loves this anger in itself. It then intensifies this anger consciously in mind alone until the folly of this red-ray energy is perceived not as folly in itself but as energy subject to spiritual entropy due to the randomness of energy being used.

    Positive orientation then provides the will and faith to continue this mentally intense experience of letting the anger be understood, accepted, and integrated with the mind/body/spirit complex. The other-self which is the object of anger is thus transformed into an object of acceptance, understanding, and accommodation, all being reintegrated using the great energy which anger began.

    The negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complex will use this anger in a similarly conscious fashion, refusing to accept the undirected or random energy of anger and instead, through will and faith, funneling this energy into a practical means of venting the negative aspect of this emotion so as to obtain control over other-self, or otherwise control the situation causing anger.

    Control is the key to negatively polarized use of catalyst. Acceptance is the key to positively polarized use of catalyst. Between these polarities lies the potential for this random and undirected energy creating a bodily complex analog of what you call the cancerous growth of tissue.  


    I am trying to understand and to extract some sort of method to be able to handle anger the way Ra describes it, but I have problems understanding what/how exactly do I need to do.
    How can I love anger when anger makes me hate everything? Should I expect once I love the anger (if I ever)  become  happy at once?
    I know anger uncontrolled ends up causing illnesses but I still don't see a way to turn it into love. If this would be simple the world would be full of love but I see lots of anger instead.

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      The Ra Contact: Teaching the Law of One Volume 1 - Audiobook
    Posted by: Plenum - 09-18-2019, 08:26 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - No Replies

    This was some news announced at Homecoming ... and then made official a week or so ago.

    from L/L:

    Quote:We are seriously excited to announce the release of the audiobook for The Ra Contact: Teaching the Law of One Volume 1, narrated by Jim McCarty. A lot of love and care went into the recording and production of this audiobook, and we're happy to have a new way for seekers to experience the material.

    This is the second audiobook we've released, and work continues on the rest of the L/L library, including The Ra Contact Volume 2. It is available via Audible, Amazon, and iTunes. You can get it for free by signing up for a free Audible trial. Click here to download this audiobook on Audible.com.

    I added the bold Smile

    https://www.bring4th.org/news/index.php?newsid=172

    Great work guys!

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      Indigo-ray body and Logos
    Posted by: Infinite - 09-18-2019, 07:54 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (10)

    Ra used the word "Logos" in two manners. Logos as the intelligent infinity/Love and Logos as individual portions of intelligent infinity. I suppose the indigo-ray body is an analogous to the last. Here the answer of Ra about:

    Quote:The indigo body may be seen to be an analog for intelligent energy. It is, in microcosm, the Logos. The intelligent energy of the mind/body/spirit complex totality draws its existence from intelligent infinity or the Creator. This Creator is to be understood, both in macrocosm and microcosm, to have, as we have said, two natures: the unpotentiated infinity which is intelligent; this is all that there is.
    (51.10)

    So are the Logoi intelligent energy?

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      The Spirit Complex and Nuclear Weapons
    Posted by: Infinite - 09-17-2019, 02:18 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (11)

    I still don't understand what the spirit complex is. Here the definition of Ra:

    Quote:This spirit complex is the channel whereby the inpourings from all of the various universal, planetary, and personal inpourings may be funneled into the roots of consciousness and whereby consciousness may be funneled to the gateway of intelligent infinity through the balanced intelligent energy of body and mind
    .(30.2)

    Someone here knows some correspondence to spirit complex in the traditional esoteric teachings?

    ***************
    About the effect of nuclear weapons, I always read that our spirit/consciousness/atman (I suposse all this is the same thing) is immortal. But, reading again, seems to me that which occurs is not the disintegration of spirit, but the separation of the mind, body and spirit:

    Quote:Those who were destroyed, not by radiation, but by the trauma of the energy release, found not only the body/mind/spirit complex made unviable, but also a disarrangement of that unique vibratory complex you have called the spirit complex, which we understand as a mind/body/spirit complex, to be completely disarranged without possibility of re-integration. This would be the loss to the Creator of part of the Creator and thus we were given permission, not to stop the events, but to ensure the survival of the, shall we say, disembodied mind/body/spirit complex. This we did in those events which you mention, losing no spirit or portion or holograph or microcosm of the macrocosmic Infinite One.
    (26.23)

    And here, stretchs of Q'uo and Latwii about the subject:

    Quote:I am Q’uo, and we might respond by suggesting that there is the release of energy of such a nature within the process of detonation of one of your nuclear weapons that not only does the physical material of your illusion suffer great disfiguration, but it is possible that the mind/body/spirit complex which might be referred to as the soul, if you will, can also undergo a type of disintegration if there is not the immediate aid of those able to harness this released energy and other energies for the preservation of the integrity of the mind/body/spirit complex.

    [...]

    I am Q’uo, and am once again with this instrument. Our choice of terminology was that most familiar to this instrument, and we apologize for using that which was not familiar to your own experience. The concept of the soul being affected by the release of the nuclear energy is that which we have described as the potential for the disintegration of those major components of what you have called the soul, and that is a being that is complex, a being which experiences the creation by means of utilizing the mind, the body, and the spirit. The effect of the release of the nuclear energy is to cause a disintegration, or an unbinding, shall we say, of mind, of body and of spirit, each from the other, so that the unified joining of them called a soul in your terms is no longer able to perceive experience and to focus conscious awareness.

    Thus, there is the necessity for the healing or maintenance of the integrity or unity of these complexes during the release of nuclear energy. The maintenance of such integrity is the honor and duty of those who watch over the progress of your planet’s populations, and these entities have moved in this service in previous times of your planet’s experience in order that no soul might lose its integrity through the release of nuclear energy.

    [...]

    J: This separation of the mind/body/spirit complex, does this occur only, shall I say, at a ground zero type situation in a nuclear explosion, or is a large percentage of those entities which ultimately die as a result of a nuclear explosion, does the same separation take place in those entities?

    I am Q’uo, and we find that, in general, as you would say, the most probability of the disintegration of the mind/body/spirit complex would be at that location you have described as ground zero, and would decrease as the distance from this point increased.

    May we answer further, my brother?

    J: Has there ever been a case in which the complexes of mind/body/spirit was beyond reorganization, as it was totally destroyed as a result of the nuclear device?

    I am Q’uo, and we cannot answer as to yes or no, for we have not experienced all that there is to experience, and are unable to speak of that with which we are not familiar as either having observed or experienced such and such an event. We do not say that such is impossible. We can suggest that such is not probable, for always there are those who serve as observers, teachers and guides who take the necessary care for the preservation of those under their guidance.

    Source: https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/i..._1005.aspx

    Quote:S: I have a question concerning nuclear explosions. What happens to an entity that is caught in one of these?

    I am Latwii, and I am aware of your question, my sister. It is our assumption that your field of interest lies in the dissolution of [an] entity rather than the physical manifestation of nuclear explosion, and we shall attempt to answer the question on that perspective.

    The entity which is within the most intense area affected by the disruption that you refer to as a nuclear explosion is affected thusly. The Word of the Logos Itself is disrupted, in the manner of a framework or structure on your planetary surface can be disrupted, to such a degree as to be rendered into particulate matter, and such is the effect upon an entity experiencing this dismantling, so to speak.

    As the Logos is the force establishing the framework into a functional form within your particular density and galaxy, this disruption relinquishes the form, in effect canceling the structure which had been formed by the Logos. The raw material, so to speak, does not cease to exist, but rather ceases to retain its structured form, and to put it simply, returns to the Creators’ raw material pile, so to speak.


    We would hasten to point out that this occurrence is not limited to those entities of your own density, but also of those lesser densities occupying the same area of effect. Therefore, we would emphasize the responsibility taken on by those who would detonate such a device, in that the entities affected are not only your people, but also those first and second-density entities who occupy the same localities. We would refer to this as food for thought.

    Source: https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/i..._0507.aspx

    After all, if all this space/time is an illusion, how can a something physical cause the infeasibility of an entity? I really don't understand.

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      A few question about STS
    Posted by: rinzler - 09-09-2019, 11:18 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (17)

    Hey,

    I'm new here and I've read quite a bit here as a guest. I still have some unanswered questions.


    1. Do STS-Beings progress slower or faster than STO-Beings? I heard people say both so I'm confused now.


    2. Do STS-Beings have more free will than STO-Beings? I was thinking if they are going towards spiritual entropy they would become more and more predictable as they are moving towards the lowest state possible which is matter, correct?


    3. How do STS-Beings progress? Do they do it alone since they can't let anyone help them or do they simply join the Orion Empire?

    If they join the Empire what decides their rank? I mean Genghis Khan was probably one of the most powerful people on the planet in his time yet he only got a position as a shipping clerk. Who or what decides that?


    4. How do you develop willpower? That is a general question I have. Sometimes I can feel my willpower deplete. I'm not sure if it's a real feeling or just an excuse. Does it have to do something with etheric and astral energies and is willpower limited? I've noticed that when I try to control thoughts, actions or feelings it works well for a time and then it becomes harder and harder and sometimes I can feel myself being drained and then I get weak. Is it simply a matter of practice or is there something deeper?


    5. How do you heal trauma from the past? Also a personal question. I think I've got a few of my chakras blocked and I've tried meditation but most of the time my mind goes blank and then I fall asleep.


    6. How and where do you learn? Do other higher dimensional beings simply teach you or do you have to experience and learn everything by yourself?

    By learning I mean learning about the other planes of existence and their laws like the etheric and the astral realms or as some call it hyperspace and how to navigate and control them...


    7. As a 3rd dimensional being what is a realistic goal that can be achieved in this lifetime in regards to enlightenment?  

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      Loving without expectation of return
    Posted by: Glow - 09-05-2019, 01:00 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (34)

    I see this a lot in the Law of One. The channeling I was reading just now actually was in regards to a spouse, but certainly that could be extended to friends too, strangers are easiest not to expect anything in return from.

    The love is there and it’s in your nature to love this way but society teaches us that is wrong. I actually got called a people pleaser this summer because I tolerated a friend’s issues with patience and compassion instead of behaving coldly as they had.

    My relationships friend or spouse of course there is 2 way love but in some dynamics one will often love more than the other is capable.

    I resonate with just letting that heart be open and not considering the expectation of return but sometime I find they do. They become uncomfortable because they see they are not as loving, it will often bother me a bit too only being human and needing shelter myself sometimes but not enough to change how I love.

    I’m just curious how everyone here deals with the diametrically opposed ways of love. The worldly tit for tat way or the much bigger picture unconditional it is what it is no point denying it kind of way.

    I find this is honestly my biggest catalyst. I mean I have experienced some doozies that would make the news or a movie of the week but this troubles me most.

    I guess because it is the choice. Do we love anyways. The answer being yes but then the world paints you as flawed, weak, defective for loving when the world says we should close our heart and move along?

    Just thought others might have similar wonderings.
    Love to you

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      How to do a sexual energy exchange?
    Posted by: AnthroHeart - 09-04-2019, 04:15 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (18)

    Is a sexual energy exchange as Ra mentions done with the sexual chakra?

    What's the best way to do an energy exchange with someone you love but is far away?

    Do you just imagine sending sexual chakra energy into their sexual chakra?

    Or is it a heart-ray transfer into their heart chakra?

    Or do you just send all of what you are in their direction and hope they get it?

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      I made a Law of One Wiki
    Posted by: mshahiddev - 09-03-2019, 05:09 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (7)

    So back in 2015/16, there was a big controversy with the Law of One Wikipedia article.
    In short, Wikipedia mods didn't think the Law of One or the Ra Material had any verifiable reference points to allow it to stay as an article on Wikipedia.
    So the page was ultimately deleted and the back and forth between mods and who ever created the page continued. You can read the entire argument here .

    And you can check out an archived version of the original article here .

    This is unfortunate. But i can not blame the mods on Wikipedia.
    This led me to the idea of creating our own Law of One dedicated wiki site. So i installed the mediaWiki API and with the help of my friend Kirill, we got it online.
    This is great because i have many friends who, although they resonate with the concepts, the language of the actual material scares them away.
    My hope is that more people could contribute to the Wiki. Defining words and explaining concepts. Of course with appropriate references and citations to L/L Research material and websites.

    As you can tell by what little is on there, i am no wizard with words. My hope is anyone who runs by the page will stop by to write some articles.
    I have already defined the names for the pages using the index of the Ra Material.

    You can check out the wiki here .

    You can find a list of wanted articles here . Simply click on the name of the article and start writing! Feel free to make an account if you plan on editing often. If you are not familiar with wiki formatting, no worries. I can edit and add format for you later.

    Please give me feed back on what you think about it so far. And if there is something you think i should add or remove from it.

    Thanks. Love/light - mo

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