06-09-2012, 10:00 AM
Carla,
Thank you so much for your intimate response to my question about your Christianity.
In my thinking, and effort to understand yours, it seems as though the Bible is a sort of measuring stick to you. In that as you grow in understanding from twelve year old devotee of Jesus, to young woman seeker of wisdom and truth, to elder follower of the experience you have gained, you use the Bible to gauge and assist in that growth and ever continuing evolution.
By trusting in the Jesus you met intimately, you use the things which have been most commonly associated with him, crucifix and Bible, and have judged your path by applying those associations in ways which enhance your growth and connection to Him.
In this way you are doing no different than I as I associate my path with Thoth and Isis, and use symbols to connect with them in communication. The teachings of Thoth, as with the teachings of the Bible are there to be discerned by 'ears that can hear'. It is not so much the credibility of the message, as it is the ability of the 'hearer' to make use of it as an opportunity to grow in the discerning of what truths might be pulled from the complex mixtures that it contains.
One of the most compelling parts of your response was when you state that the Bible is something that you have 'understood' from the very beginning of your early walk. There are thousands of scholars in heated debate over trying to understand the Bible. the reformation is based upon such. Intelligent minds have spent lifetimes trying to comprehend the intricacies, and yet this young girl understands it without any qualms.
The difference between how they try to use it and how you use it, is why they cannot solve the never ending feud between catholic and protestant opinion. Jesus never meant for a book to be written to contain teachings that would never be questioned or discerned. That would have been the exact opposite of what He would have advised. And this is why the scholars cannot make it fit into the right hole.
I see a young girl in that Magic Forest discovering the reality of the person/consciousness behind the teachings, and her being one of evolved consciousness was able to comprehend the guidance of that teacher/consciousness and discern those true teachings from the clutter that is found in the Bible.
You are much like my own wife who is a devout catholic. She has learned a great deal from me about Biblical reference and now understands many issues with much deeper clarity, enhancing her faith even more, and she too finds deep satisfaction with the traditions, such as the hymns and methods of rejoicing and praise.
we all have our symbols. Our language and our means of communication. And we all exist in varying degrees of understanding. None can judge another by their own familiarities. No other has lived our exact experience. And there is no way to know how many lives a consciousness has experienced. To judge is to be ignorant of the possibilities.
That you have been able to make a treasure out of your experience that has lasted the growth of a lifetime, is a testament to your understanding and non-judgmental character. In the face of criticism and confusion your understanding and discerning consciousness has conquered.
In my many years of trying to fit the Bible into that hole, I finally cast it aside as perverse opinions, battered by time and tyranny. Only to pick it up again in deeper understanding to see that within the perversion, truth remains to be plucked from the weeds, as it is always found in so many other sources of communication and divine connections.
Shin'Ar
Thank you so much for your intimate response to my question about your Christianity.
In my thinking, and effort to understand yours, it seems as though the Bible is a sort of measuring stick to you. In that as you grow in understanding from twelve year old devotee of Jesus, to young woman seeker of wisdom and truth, to elder follower of the experience you have gained, you use the Bible to gauge and assist in that growth and ever continuing evolution.
By trusting in the Jesus you met intimately, you use the things which have been most commonly associated with him, crucifix and Bible, and have judged your path by applying those associations in ways which enhance your growth and connection to Him.
In this way you are doing no different than I as I associate my path with Thoth and Isis, and use symbols to connect with them in communication. The teachings of Thoth, as with the teachings of the Bible are there to be discerned by 'ears that can hear'. It is not so much the credibility of the message, as it is the ability of the 'hearer' to make use of it as an opportunity to grow in the discerning of what truths might be pulled from the complex mixtures that it contains.
One of the most compelling parts of your response was when you state that the Bible is something that you have 'understood' from the very beginning of your early walk. There are thousands of scholars in heated debate over trying to understand the Bible. the reformation is based upon such. Intelligent minds have spent lifetimes trying to comprehend the intricacies, and yet this young girl understands it without any qualms.
The difference between how they try to use it and how you use it, is why they cannot solve the never ending feud between catholic and protestant opinion. Jesus never meant for a book to be written to contain teachings that would never be questioned or discerned. That would have been the exact opposite of what He would have advised. And this is why the scholars cannot make it fit into the right hole.
I see a young girl in that Magic Forest discovering the reality of the person/consciousness behind the teachings, and her being one of evolved consciousness was able to comprehend the guidance of that teacher/consciousness and discern those true teachings from the clutter that is found in the Bible.
You are much like my own wife who is a devout catholic. She has learned a great deal from me about Biblical reference and now understands many issues with much deeper clarity, enhancing her faith even more, and she too finds deep satisfaction with the traditions, such as the hymns and methods of rejoicing and praise.
we all have our symbols. Our language and our means of communication. And we all exist in varying degrees of understanding. None can judge another by their own familiarities. No other has lived our exact experience. And there is no way to know how many lives a consciousness has experienced. To judge is to be ignorant of the possibilities.
That you have been able to make a treasure out of your experience that has lasted the growth of a lifetime, is a testament to your understanding and non-judgmental character. In the face of criticism and confusion your understanding and discerning consciousness has conquered.
In my many years of trying to fit the Bible into that hole, I finally cast it aside as perverse opinions, battered by time and tyranny. Only to pick it up again in deeper understanding to see that within the perversion, truth remains to be plucked from the weeds, as it is always found in so many other sources of communication and divine connections.
Shin'Ar