Logos Creating Galaxy Found

[Peregrinus]

Based on observations performed at mid-infrared wavelengths, with the powerful VLT spectrometer and imager for the mid-infrared (VISIR) instrument at the VLT, combined with additional data including: spectra acquired using VLT-FORS, optical and infrared images from the NASA/ESA Hubble Space Telescope, and radio observations from the Australia Telescope National Facility, astronomers confirm that black holes create galaxies, as Ra explained of Logos in The Law of One (Ra Materials).

28.7 Questioner: Thank you. Does a unit of consciousness, an individualized unit of consciousness, create a unit of the creation? I will give an example.

One individualized consciousness creates one galaxy of stars, the type that has many millions of stars in it. Does this happen?

Ra: I am Ra. This can happen. The possibilities are infinite. Thus a Logos may create what you call a star system or it may be the Logos creating billions of star systems. This is the cause of the confusion in the term galaxy, for there are many different Logos entities or creations and we would call each, using your sound vibration complexes, a galaxy.

28.9 Questioner: Then what you are saying is that the lenticular star system which we call a galaxy that we find ourselves in with approximately 250 billion other suns like our own was created by a single Logos. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Extra! Extra! Read all about it!!! --->>> black-hole-caught-zapping-galaxy-into-existence
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[carrie]

Yipee

I wrote this too, but different manner:
http://www.bring4th.org/members.php?uid=711&catid=all

Suppose you can manipulate space and time. The first problem you will have is to prevent an implosion.

If you have space from a dot, you need some way to push space outwards. The problem is that it will come back again because you set parameters or limits of space. For example, if you set the limit of space to be, say, 100km L, 100km W, 100km H, you generate some sort of sphere which contain space. The problem starts is when space expands to fill void, then space "bounces back" when it reaches the limit. Big problem. In order to prevent the bounce-back, you would have to keep expanding, expanding and expanding to prevent space from collapsing back. The next problem is zoning. You need to zone areas of high matter and low matter. Matter is clumping of space into collections of matter. You need to generate negative space to hold matter together.

Here comes Time. If you expand space, you would notice there is no Time. Time is independent of space. Time allows space to interact with space. Time is generated by device called Time Generator. The Time Generator sends time waves across space. This allows the space to interact with space.

Negative space is contraction of matter into an area smaller than a dot. Human scientists call it black hole.

Once you have a black hole setup, you allow it to start gathering matter around it, allow it to suck-up some matter (not all matter) around it. The compression and expansions create small little galaxies. These in turn hosts stars. The negative space becomes quite large in what human scientists call super-massive black hole.

[ayadew]

Earlier observations had shown that the companion galaxy is, in fact, under fire: the quasar is spewing a jet of highly energetic particles towards its companion, accompanied by a stream of fast-moving gas. The injection of matter and energy into the galaxy indicates that the quasar itself might be inducing the formation of stars and thereby creating its own host galaxy; in such a scenario, galaxies would have evolved from clouds of gas hit by the energetic jets emerging from quasars.

Basically the black hole does something which transfers material from one galaxy to another place thus creating a new one.
Yes, I think that's a 3D equivalent of a logos.

[Lorna]

wow thanks for sharing, creation at work, beautiful

[litllady]

Love this kinda stuff....

So I went to the LOO and looked up black holes and was greatly satisfied with the readings along with morning coffee...

40.0 Ra: I am Ra. I greet you in the love and in the light of the Infinite Creator. We communicate now.

40.1 Questioner: I thought that I would make a statement and let you correct it. I’m trying to make a simple model of the portion of the universe that we find ourselves in. Starting with the sub-Logos, our sun, we have white light emanating from this which is made up of the frequencies ranging from the red to the violet. I am assuming that this white light then contains the experiences through all of the densities and as we go into the eighth density we go into a black hole which becomes, on the other side, another Logos or sun and starts another octave of experience. Can you comment on this part of my statement?

Ra: I am Ra. We can comment upon this statement to an extent. The concept of the white light of the sub-Logos being prismatically separated and later, at the final chapter, being absorbed again is basically correct. However, there are subtleties involved which are more than semantic.

The white light which emanates and forms the articulated sub-Logos has its beginning in what may be metaphysically seen as darkness. The light comes into that darkness and transfigures it, causing the chaos to organize and become reflective or radiant. Thus the dimensions come into being.

Conversely, the blackness of the black hole, metaphysically speaking, is a concentration of white light being systematically absorbed once again into the One Creator. Finally, this absorption into the One Creator continues until all the infinity of creations have attained sufficient spiritual mass in order that all form once again the great central sun, if you would so imagine it, of the intelligent infinity awaiting potentiation by free will. Thus the transition of the octave is a process which may be seen to enter into timelessness of unimaginable nature. To attempt to measure it by your time measures would be useless.

Therefore, the concept of moving through the black hole of the ultimate spiritual gravity well and coming immediately into the next octave misses the subconcept or corollary of the portion of this process which is timeless.

40.2 Questioner: Our astronomers have noticed that light from spiral galaxies is approximately seventy times less than it should be, considering the calculated mass of the galaxy. I was wondering if that was due to the increase of spiritual mass in the galaxy in what we call white dwarf stars?

Ra: I am Ra. This is basically correct and is a portion of the way or process of creation’s cycle.

29.19 Questioner: Then the black hole would be a point at which the environmental material has succeeded in uniting with unity or with the Creator? Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. The black hole which manifests third density is the physical complex manifestation of this spiritual or metaphysical state. This is correct.

Not sure I understand every bit of this...but my inner being loves reading about it.

[Peregrinus]

It means that the black hole emanates the galaxy via light (exactly what is seen), and at the end of the octave it draws it all back into itself. This is why our galaxy's black hole is currently not active. We are not collectively finished the octave.

What I enjoy so much is that as time moves forward, the illusion, exactly as per what Ra detailed, comes to be understood knowledge. When the channeling happened in the 1980's very much of what is now understood science had no base in known reality.

I imagine the score might be something like this
Score: Ra 100. Old science 2

[litllady]

So we can say that this black hole the article talks about has finished a cycle of octaves and is now birthing another whole cycle? Are we looking at part of the infinite creator (in a sense) that has completed all 8 octaves and has now begun again?

Am I way off here?

Would the black hole be the Logos, then all of those suns produced are sub logos, then all that the suns produces as well would be sub sub logos...I will defiantly have to read up on this in more detail and repetitive reading to grasp it I think.

[Peregrinus]

You are not off at all dear one.

Yes, the black hole is the Logos, and each sun it creates is a sub-Logos. We are sub-sub-Logoi.

We cannot tell though whether this is a new Logos or one that has gone through an octave already. That, until we are in an octave higher than our current one, will remain a mystery to us due to the veil or unless we connect with intelligent infinity, and then maybe not even still while in this density. I am of the understanding that it is only the higher octaves that are able to wander.

[litllady]

Am I understanding the article correctly...that the black hole of this particular galaxy that the article speaks of has not merged yet with its galaxy that it is creating? I have more thoughts on this...if my thinking is going in the right direction. Trying to take it one thought at a time.

[Peregrinus]

Again correct. It is making the galaxy from outside it, on a course to merge.

[litllady]

Again correct. It is making the galaxy from outside it, on a course to merge.

Thank you for the feedback Peregrinus!

Something I have always found interesting is a word in Genesis that is used for 'created'. The word is 'bara' and has been traslated as 'created'. But looking into this a little further...bara can also mean 'to fill or to fatten'.

When I read about the eventual merging of the black hole with the galaxy...this is what came to mind...that the galaxy would then be 'filled and fattened' with the Holy Spirit of life.

Just ramblin as always

[Ali Quadir]

From the article:
"350 Suns per year, one hundred times more than rates for typical galaxies in the local Universe."

As in... Wow? Almost every day a new sun is born and will likely shine for billions of years entire civilizations will warm themselves by their fires! I feel so insignificant right now

This is a really big deal.. Thank you for bringing it to our attention Peregrinus. I don't think science can explain right now how a black hole causes star birth. But it plays right into the torsion field physicists game doesn't it? Lets see if they start howling with pleasure soon

[Questioner]

Does this mean that the current universe will definitely end in a "big crunch?"

[Peregrinus]

Does this mean that the current universe will definitely end in a "big crunch?"

Both galaxies and universe yes, but that is a long time away.

[Questioner]

Does this mean that the current universe will definitely end in a "big crunch?"

Both galaxies and universe yes, but that is a long time away.

Well, I like to think long term.

The "big crunch" concept used to terrify me, but not quite as much as the concept of infinite cold from an endlessly expanding universe that was eventually equally empty everywhere. Those concepts terrified me because I thought of consciousness as an emergent property of physical 3D matter interacting with itself over time. Both crunch and emptiness scenarios called for the ultimate destruction of consciousness and the impossibility of any further experience or thought.

Now that I use faith to believe that 3D matter and time are a subset or artifact of a higher metaphysical reality, the idea that we'll get back together eventually, physically and metaphysically, is a comfort.

[Peregrinus]

Yes, the term "big crunch" is not an accurate term, as it is actually the final step of being reintegrated with the One Infinite Creator. It should, perhaps, be called the "Big Hug".

[gharghur]

Very nice find, thank you.
namaste

[Peregrinus]

I cannot take any credit for this. That belongs to those that are involved with the Hubble. I am but a humble messenger overjoyed to corroborate what Ra has told us.

[gharghur]

Yes, wonderful to confirm our own discernment in regard to the LOO as, the wisdom of Ra continues to seed and unfold within the human awareness.

[Ali Quadir]

Actually, the big crunch is just a theory right? We can't conclude with 100% accuracy that this is what's going to happen. Basically it's what people think is going to happen.

I personally don't really believe in big bang big crunch theories.

(Brunch theories are more my thing..)

[Questioner]

Yes, the term "big crunch" is not an accurate term, as it is actually the final step of being reintegrated with the One Infinite Creator. It should, perhaps, be called the "Big Hug".

Aha, then we are not just progressing towards eighth density unification... we are piling in for the ultimate group hug!

[Peregrinus]

Very cute

[ayadew]

I doubt the universe is perceived as expanding/contracting in a higher density; it here being just another catalyst.
If all things are in unity and connected, there can be no distance/separation/time.

One can question though: What good is this catalyst?
It surely gives a feeling of mystery, where the universe expands infinitely.
Can there be an end?
Is there just darkness at the end?
If not, is the universe infinite in diameter?
Or does it bend back upon itself like light attracted to a black hole?
Is the universe then centered around an immense dark hole?

Endless thought/mystery/possibility

Also 2nd law of thermodynamics is the most depressive thought I've ever heard! Talk about removing purpose and power from the self!

[Peregrinus]

I doubt the universe is perceived as expanding/contracting in a higher density; it here being just another catalyst.
If all things are in unity and connected, there can be no distance/separation/time.

Doubting what is understood in another density is as doubting what goes on on the far side of the moon at this very moment. Without being there, one cannot even assume to imagine the reality of it.

One can question though: What good is this catalyst?

Catalyst is explained very clearly in the LOO. Without catalyst, there is no experience. The purpose of our illusion is so that the One Creator can experience itself.

It surely gives a feeling of mystery, where the universe expands infinitely.
Can there be an end?

The One Infinte Creator's multiverses are infinite, hence the term "Infinite". We cannot begin to even fathom how vast creation is.

Is there just darkness at the end?
If not, is the universe infinite in diameter?

Space is not "space" as most would consider it, cold and devoid of light. It is a plenom, the "bathtub" as it were, of the One Creator's creation.

Or does it bend back upon itself like light attracted to a black hole?
Is the universe then centered around an immense dark hole?

There are more than just one universe, and no they do not bend abck around on themselves. The word universe is derived from two parts; uni and verse. We live in our universe, yes, but there are other universes too. Hence, we call more than one universe the multiverse. Hence, your question should be "Are the multiverses centered around a large black hole"?

Would you desire proof?

[ayadew]

Peregrinus: Haha, you are too wonderful I appreciate your vibration
Let us explore the polarities in love

[Lavazza]

(Brunch theories are more my thing..)

The Big Brunch theory has been proven many, many times. It continues to be delicious.

[carrie]

This is why our galaxy's black hole is currently not active. We are not collectively finished the octave.

The galaxy black hole acts 'anchor' which anchors all the stars.

It can either
- expand - in sense increase gravity pull-in outer rim stars

- contract - in sense start star formation by providing basic building blocks

- same-state - maintain current state, allow 1D-->2D-->3D-->4D

you have to say for all stars, not just 1 star-system (i.e., solar system).

[Questioner]

The galaxy black hole acts 'anchor' which anchors all the stars.

It can either
- expand - in sense increase gravity pull-in outer rim stars

- contract - in sense start star formation by providing basic building blocks

- same-state - maintain current state, allow 1D-->2D-->3D-->4D

you have to say for all stars, not just 1 star-system (i.e., solar system).

This is very interesting material. Ra discusses other experiments done in other galaxies. Would those other experiments include different combinations or timing of expansion/contraction activity?

[Peregrinus]

This is very interesting material. Ra discusses other experiments done in other galaxies. Would those other experiments include different combinations or timing of expansion/contraction activity?

As to experimentation; I believe what Ra explained was that there are different lengths of time used by each Logos, because each one establishes parameters in order to try to enhance the experience of One Creator knowing itself. Because this third density was designed to be so intense (veiled), the time of it was shortened to 75,000 years. However, because of the biped ape body chosen by this Logos, propensity towards war has occurred (Opposable thumbs) and thus the experimentation, in this case, has not been of a great success. When I say "in this case", I mean overall of this galaxy, being that we have billions here redoing their third densities from wars on other planets. Although the intensity has been a success, the rate of those able to ascend has been less than desired.