Quote:28.7 Questioner: Thank you. Does a unit of consciousness, an individualized unit of consciousness, create a unit of the creation? I will give an example.

One individualized consciousness creates one galaxy of stars, the type that has many millions of stars in it. Does this happen?

Ra: I am Ra. This can happen. The possibilities are infinite. Thus a Logos may create what you call a star system or it may be the Logos creating billions of star systems. This is the cause of the confusion in the term galaxy, for there are many different Logos entities or creations and we would call each, using your sound vibration complexes, a galaxy.

28.9 Questioner: Then what you are saying is that the lenticular star system which we call a galaxy that we find ourselves in with approximately 250 billion other suns like our own was created by a single Logos. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Quote:Suppose you can manipulate space and time. The first problem you will have is to prevent an implosion.

If you have space from a dot, you need some way to push space outwards. The problem is that it will come back again because you set parameters or limits of space. For example, if you set the limit of space to be, say, 100km L, 100km W, 100km H, you generate some sort of sphere which contain space. The problem starts is when space expands to fill void, then space "bounces back" when it reaches the limit. Big problem. In order to prevent the bounce-back, you would have to keep expanding, expanding and expanding to prevent space from collapsing back. The next problem is zoning. You need to zone areas of high matter and low matter. Matter is clumping of space into collections of matter. You need to generate negative space to hold matter together.

Here comes Time. If you expand space, you would notice there is no Time. Time is independent of space. Time allows space to interact with space. Time is generated by device called Time Generator. The Time Generator sends time waves across space. This allows the space to interact with space.

Negative space is contraction of matter into an area smaller than a dot. Human scientists call it black hole.

Once you have a black hole setup, you allow it to start gathering matter around it, allow it to suck-up some matter (not all matter) around it. The compression and expansions create small little galaxies. These in turn hosts stars. The negative space becomes quite large in what human scientists call super-massive black hole.

Quote: Earlier observations had shown that the companion galaxy is, in fact, under fire: the quasar is spewing a jet of highly energetic particles towards its companion, accompanied by a stream of fast-moving gas. The injection of matter and energy into the galaxy indicates that the quasar itself might be inducing the formation of stars and thereby creating its own host galaxy; in such a scenario, galaxies would have evolved from clouds of gas hit by the energetic jets emerging from quasars.

Quote:40.0 Ra: I am Ra. I greet you in the love and in the light of the Infinite Creator. We communicate now.

40.1 Questioner: I thought that I would make a statement and let you correct it. I’m trying to make a simple model of the portion of the universe that we find ourselves in. Starting with the sub-Logos, our sun, we have white light emanating from this which is made up of the frequencies ranging from the red to the violet. I am assuming that this white light then contains the experiences through all of the densities and as we go into the eighth density we go into a black hole which becomes, on the other side, another Logos or sun and starts another octave of experience. Can you comment on this part of my statement?

Ra: I am Ra. We can comment upon this statement to an extent. The concept of the white light of the sub-Logos being prismatically separated and later, at the final chapter, being absorbed again is basically correct. However, there are subtleties involved which are more than semantic.

The white light which emanates and forms the articulated sub-Logos has its beginning in what may be metaphysically seen as darkness. The light comes into that darkness and transfigures it, causing the chaos to organize and become reflective or radiant. Thus the dimensions come into being.

Conversely, the blackness of the black hole, metaphysically speaking, is a concentration of white light being systematically absorbed once again into the One Creator. Finally, this absorption into the One Creator continues until all the infinity of creations have attained sufficient spiritual mass in order that all form once again the great central sun, if you would so imagine it, of the intelligent infinity awaiting potentiation by free will. Thus the transition of the octave is a process which may be seen to enter into timelessness of unimaginable nature. To attempt to measure it by your time measures would be useless.

Therefore, the concept of moving through the black hole of the ultimate spiritual gravity well and coming immediately into the next octave misses the subconcept or corollary of the portion of this process which is timeless.

40.2 Questioner: Our astronomers have noticed that light from spiral galaxies is approximately seventy times less than it should be, considering the calculated mass of the galaxy. I was wondering if that was due to the increase of spiritual mass in the galaxy in what we call white dwarf stars?

Ra: I am Ra. This is basically correct and is a portion of the way or process of creation’s cycle.

Quote:29.19 Questioner: Then the black hole would be a point at which the environmental material has succeeded in uniting with unity or with the Creator? Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. The black hole which manifests third density is the physical complex manifestation of this spiritual or metaphysical state. This is correct.

(12-03-2009, 04:02 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: Again correct. It is making the galaxy from outside it, on a course to merge.

(12-03-2009, 10:00 PM)Questioner Wrote: Does this mean that the current universe will definitely end in a "big crunch?"

(12-03-2009, 11:49 PM)Peregrinus Wrote:

(12-03-2009, 10:00 PM)Questioner Wrote: Does this mean that the current universe will definitely end in a "big crunch?"

Both galaxies and universe yes, but that is a long time away.

(12-04-2009, 03:38 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: Yes, the term "big crunch" is not an accurate term, as it is actually the final step of being reintegrated with the One Infinite Creator. It should, perhaps, be called the "Big Hug".

(12-06-2009, 07:55 AM)ayadew Wrote: I doubt the universe is perceived as expanding/contracting in a higher density; it here being just another catalyst.
If all things are in unity and connected, there can be no distance/separation/time.

(12-06-2009, 07:55 AM)ayadew Wrote: One can question though: What good is this catalyst?

(12-06-2009, 07:55 AM)ayadew Wrote: It surely gives a feeling of mystery, where the universe expands infinitely.
Can there be an end?

(12-06-2009, 07:55 AM)ayadew Wrote: Is there just darkness at the end?
If not, is the universe infinite in diameter?

(12-06-2009, 07:55 AM)ayadew Wrote: Or does it bend back upon itself like light attracted to a black hole?
Is the universe then centered around an immense dark hole?

(12-05-2009, 02:53 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: (Brunch theories are more my thing..)

Quote:This is why our galaxy's black hole is currently not active. We are not collectively finished the octave.

(12-11-2009, 03:25 AM)carrie Wrote: The galaxy black hole acts 'anchor' which anchors all the stars.

It can either
- expand - in sense increase gravity pull-in outer rim stars

- contract - in sense start star formation by providing basic building blocks

- same-state - maintain current state, allow 1D-->2D-->3D-->4D

you have to say for all stars, not just 1 star-system (i.e., solar system).

(12-12-2009, 12:53 PM)Questioner Wrote: This is very interesting material. Ra discusses other experiments done in other galaxies. Would those other experiments include different combinations or timing of expansion/contraction activity?