The great ape body

[kanonathena]

The human body is based on the great ape and it is said that most ETs look very similar to us, are their body also based on the great ape, do they have great ape on their planets?

[zenmaster]

The human body is based on the great ape and it is said that most ETs look very similar to us, are their body also based on the great ape, do they have great ape on their planets?

According to the material, most ETs do not look very similar to us. The further away the logoi are to each other, the less likely they are to use the same or similar archetypal principles. Where there are similar 3D forms, such as we have in the local area, the obvious conclusion is that there was evolution from an ape-like form.

[Conifer16]

The human body is based on the great ape and it is said that most ETs look very similar to us, are their body also based on the great ape, do they have great ape on their planets?

According to the material, most ETs do not look very similar to us. The further away the logoi are to each other, the less likely they are to use the same or similar archetypal principles. Where there are similar 3D forms, such as we have in the local area, the obvious conclusion is that there was evolution from an ape-like form.

Hi,

I thought that Ra said that the template for third density life in this galaxy was human. Wait. Did they mean solar system because I know that Ra made that mistake sometimes?

Thanks,
Conifer16
Adonai Vasu Borragus

[Oceania]

i think it extends outside the solar system given that the solar system is very small. there's a handful of planets. also if sirians and arcturians look like us, that means our galaxy.

[3DMonkey]

i think it extends outside the solar system given that the solar system is very small. there's a handful of planets. also if sirians and arcturians look like us, that means our galaxy.

I look like you.

[Bring4th_Austin]

90.8 Questioner: I see. Very roughly, if you were to move a third-density entity from some other planet to this planet, what percentage of all of those within the knowledge of Ra would look enough like entities of Earth so that they would go unnoticed in a crowd?
Ra: I am Ra. Perhaps five percent.

90.9 Questioner: Then there is an extreme variation in the form of the physical vehicle in third density in the universe. I assume that this is also true of fourth density. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is so. We remind you that it is a great theoretical distance between demanding that the creatures of an infinite creation be unnoticeably similar to one’s self and observing those signs which may be called human which denote the third-density characteristics of self-consciousness, the grouping into pairs, societal groups, and races, and the further characteristic means of using self-consciousness to refine and search for the meaning of the milieu.

90.10 Questioner: Within Ra’s knowledge of the third-density physical forms, what percentage would be similar enough to this planet’s physical forms that we would assume the entities to be human even though they were a bit different? This would have to be very rough because of my definition’s being very rough.
Ra: I am Ra. This percentage is still small; perhaps thirteen to fifteen percent due to the capabilities of various second-density life forms to carry out each necessary function for third-density work. Thusly to be observed would be behavior indicating self-consciousness and purposeful interaction with a sentient ambiance about the entity rather than those characteristics which familiarly connote to your peoples the humanity of your third-density form.

The misconception that most ETs look like us comes from David Wilcock, who claims to be a student of the LOO, but obviously didn't read this part.

There are even more quotes I could dig up from the Ra material that claims most other ET civilizations look very unlike us if anyone else wants further reference.

[Conifer16]

90.8 Questioner: I see. Very roughly, if you were to move a third-density entity from some other planet to this planet, what percentage of all of those within the knowledge of Ra would look enough like entities of Earth so that they would go unnoticed in a crowd?
Ra: I am Ra. Perhaps five percent.

90.9 Questioner: Then there is an extreme variation in the form of the physical vehicle in third density in the universe. I assume that this is also true of fourth density. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is so. We remind you that it is a great theoretical distance between demanding that the creatures of an infinite creation be unnoticeably similar to one’s self and observing those signs which may be called human which denote the third-density characteristics of self-consciousness, the grouping into pairs, societal groups, and races, and the further characteristic means of using self-consciousness to refine and search for the meaning of the milieu.

90.10 Questioner: Within Ra’s knowledge of the third-density physical forms, what percentage would be similar enough to this planet’s physical forms that we would assume the entities to be human even though they were a bit different? This would have to be very rough because of my definition’s being very rough.
Ra: I am Ra. This percentage is still small; perhaps thirteen to fifteen percent due to the capabilities of various second-density life forms to carry out each necessary function for third-density work. Thusly to be observed would be behavior indicating self-consciousness and purposeful interaction with a sentient ambiance about the entity rather than those characteristics which familiarly connote to your peoples the humanity of your third-density form.

The misconception that most ETs look like us comes from David Wilcock, who claims to be a student of the LOO, but obviously didn't read this part.

There are even more quotes I could dig up from the Ra material that claims most other ET civilizations look very unlike us if anyone else wants further reference.

Hi,

I would like to read more about that please

Thank,
Conifer16
Adonai Vasu Borragus

[Bring4th_Austin]

The human body is based on the great ape and it is said that most ETs look very similar to us, are their body also based on the great ape, do they have great ape on their planets?

According to the material, most ETs do not look very similar to us. The further away the logoi are to each other, the less likely they are to use the same or similar archetypal principles. Where there are similar 3D forms, such as we have in the local area, the obvious conclusion is that there was evolution from an ape-like form.

Hi,

I thought that Ra said that the template for third density life in this galaxy was human. Wait. Did they mean solar system because I know that Ra made that mistake sometimes?

Thanks,
Conifer16
Adonai Vasu Borragus

You may be thinking about this:

90.12 Questioner: Was there a reason for choosing the forms that have evolved on this planet and, if so, what was it?
Ra: I am Ra. We are not entirely sure why our Logos and several neighboring Logoi of approximately the same space/time of flowering chose the bipedal, erect form of the second-density apes to invest. It has been our supposition, which we share with you as long as you are aware that this is mere opinion, that our Logos was interested in, shall we say, further intensifying the veiling process by offering to the third-density form the near complete probability for the development of speech taking complete precedence over concept communication or telepathy. We also have the supposition that the so-called opposable thumb was looked upon as an excellent means of intensifying the veiling process so that rather than rediscovering the powers of the mind the third-density entity would, by the form of its physical manifestation, be drawn to the making, holding, and using of physical tools

By Logoi here, Ra means local Logoi, our sun and nearby stars.

[Ankh]

You may be thinking about this:

90.12 Questioner: Was there a reason for choosing the forms that have evolved on this planet and, if so, what was it?
Ra: I am Ra. We are not entirely sure why our Logos and several neighboring Logoi of approximately the same space/time of flowering chose the bipedal, erect form of the second-density apes to invest. It has been our supposition, which we share with you as long as you are aware that this is mere opinion, that our Logos was interested in, shall we say, further intensifying the veiling process by offering to the third-density form the near complete probability for the development of speech taking complete precedence over concept communication or telepathy. We also have the supposition that the so-called opposable thumb was looked upon as an excellent means of intensifying the veiling process so that rather than rediscovering the powers of the mind the third-density entity would, by the form of its physical manifestation, be drawn to the making, holding, and using of physical tools

By Logoi here, Ra means local Logoi, our sun and nearby stars.

Is Ra evolved from the apes too then, and is human looking? Or was investment made only in this planet?

[kycahi]

The human body is based on the great ape and it is said that most ETs look very similar to us, are their body also based on the great ape, do they have great ape on their planets?

Personally, those other planets might have pretty good apes, but I think only our planet has truly great apes.

More seriously, by Earth having monkeys and apes contributes to our Confusion by giving rise to the Darwinian evolution debate. It also encourages 3Ders to feel kinship with the whole planetary population. I like that.

Ankh, if I ever try to visualize a Ra entity I suppose it would look kind of like us, although never as nice looking as you.

[Oceania]

cool point ky, i like that idea.

[Ankh]

Ankh, if I ever try to visualize a Ra entity I suppose it would look kind of like us, although never as nice looking as you.

Ah, thank you, beautiful! =)

[AndresOr]

I think that most close to us Et looks human, but they didn't Necessary evolves from apes... i thiink you can be a dog like human or cat look human etc.. the model is bipedal, two arms and one head...

Differents eyes, skin colors, hair, head size, it is like looking of indian drawing of theirs gods, very human, but different... or like the famous grays...

[Bring4th_Austin]

You may be thinking about this:

90.12 Questioner: Was there a reason for choosing the forms that have evolved on this planet and, if so, what was it?
Ra: I am Ra. We are not entirely sure why our Logos and several neighboring Logoi of approximately the same space/time of flowering chose the bipedal, erect form of the second-density apes to invest. It has been our supposition, which we share with you as long as you are aware that this is mere opinion, that our Logos was interested in, shall we say, further intensifying the veiling process by offering to the third-density form the near complete probability for the development of speech taking complete precedence over concept communication or telepathy. We also have the supposition that the so-called opposable thumb was looked upon as an excellent means of intensifying the veiling process so that rather than rediscovering the powers of the mind the third-density entity would, by the form of its physical manifestation, be drawn to the making, holding, and using of physical tools

By Logoi here, Ra means local Logoi, our sun and nearby stars.

Is Ra evolved from the apes too then, and is human looking? Or was investment made only in this planet?

I'm not sure if Ra means that the civilizations descended from apes, or if they simply have the same form as bipedal apes (and we happened to actually descend from them).

But, as far as I understand, the answer to your question is that Ra as well as any other species from some of the neighboring stars, has the form of the bipedal ape because it was chosen by the Logoi to hold 3D entities.

[3DMonkey]

An ape's strength would be nice to have. So would a hawk's wings. (a hawk landed in my tree the other day. And one swooped over my truck also. )

[unity100]

The human body is based on the great ape and it is said that most ETs look very similar to us, are their body also based on the great ape, do they have great ape on their planets?

According to the material, most ETs do not look very similar to us. The further away the logoi are to each other, the less likely they are to use the same or similar archetypal principles. Where there are similar 3D forms, such as we have in the local area, the obvious conclusion is that there was evolution from an ape-like form.

Hi,

I thought that Ra said that the template for third density life in this galaxy was human. Wait. Did they mean solar system because I know that Ra made that mistake sometimes?

Thanks,
Conifer16
Adonai Vasu Borragus

they didnt say template for third density life in this galaxy was human. they said template for 4d bodies was bipedal.

in case you are mistaking 5d bodies, it is not because 5d bodies are human based bodies - its because when they appear, they choose a form that the entity contacted will be comfortable with - therefore when contacting humans, this becomes human body. they are able to change the shape of their body.

[kanonathena]

I remember Ra said they spent their third density as trees (vegetables)?

I can just imagine how our scientists would freak out if they found apes from other planets.

[Raman]

bipedal vehicles are only one type of vehicle. Mostly refers to ape type bodies since it implies locomotion. It seems this is only a small percentage for 3d vehicles, it was chosen by this sub-Logos (Sun) for this solar system, so reasonable to say Ra's 3d bodies were bipedal as well since they were part of same sub-Logos.

[unity100]

I remember Ra said they spent their third density as trees (vegetables)?

no such things was in the material. you are confusing sirius entities with Ra.

[Oceania]

trees aren't vegetables.

[Crown]

So...

Technically, if the universe is infinite, even aliens like in the movies "Alien" and "Predator" exist. Do they?

I always said no because it wont make sense, why would an alien race look like bugs and kill everything on sight. But hey, it actually sounds very logical... on some lvel of evolutionary proccess.

Aliens with tentacles, yes or no? I would say yes but not in our galaxy xD

[Oceania]

i say everything we can imagine exists in its own universe.

[unity100]

I always said no because it wont make sense, why would an alien race look like bugs and kill everything on sight. But hey, it actually sounds very logical... on some lvel of evolutionary proccess.

such act would be the act of 2d.

'purposeful interaction' is what Ra used in definition of how 3d life would be recognizable.

the act above doesnt appear too purposeful. even if it had a purpose, it would be temporary.

[Crown]

I always said no because it wont make sense, why would an alien race look like bugs and kill everything on sight. But hey, it actually sounds very logical... on some lvel of evolutionary proccess.

such act would be the act of 2d.

'purposeful interaction' is what Ra used in definition of how 3d life would be recognizable.

the act above doesnt appear too purposeful. even if it had a purpose, it would be temporary.

But then, you can imagine infinite scenarios where this 3d alien race would have a purpose to anihilate anything in its path. It would be difficult for us to understand / agree with these purposes but they are potentially there.

But i thank you for the explanation.


Oh and as Oceania said, everything we can imagine could exist since our imagination is just a part of the infinite, and if the universe is infinite then you cannot rule anything out so yes, even aliens with tentacles exist.


But i guess that no race would ever reach a point in its porccess where it reached lets say 3d conciousness and still has the needs of an animal ie. killing everything. So basically, "Alien" is a 2d creature that might populate a whole planet but does not own technology to travel between stars.


BUT! a higher race like the "Predator" could carry "Alien" in a spaceship and spread the virus to other planets. What would the purpose be then? I dont know, but i can sure come up with something xD


Anyway yea. Sorry for hijacking this thread.

[Raman]

Guard your thoughts....

[kycahi]

I remember Ra said they spent their third density as trees (vegetables)?

They answered a question from Don about a group that made a close encounter with someone, and that group had a tree-like cycle.

[Oceania]

i'd hardly call predator higher. alien totally kicks predators ass! they're really smart and predator isn't as cute anyway. how did this thread become about predator vs alien?

anyway there are different rules in different universes, so i can imagine that um, 3D beings can be animalistic in them. and there can be talking pigs and flying cows. and i'm completely serious. the land of imagination has different rules.

[3DMonkey]

I think of this every time I read the thread's title

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Grape Ape

[Oceania]

that bozo looks familiar. the way i see it, the apes were grown as vessels for 3D beings, from them humans were made. they prolly used other beings on other planets for the same thing. but do the aliens themselves do it or is it the pulse from the logos?

[unity100]

But then, you can imagine infinite scenarios where this 3d alien race would have a purpose to anihilate anything in its path. It would be difficult for us to understand / agree with these purposes but they are potentially there.

annihilating everything would be a purpose only until the entity would realize annihilating everything was not purposeful ultimately. either with the understanding that everything could not be annihilated because infinity is infinite or due to other reasons.