(07-03-2011, 08:40 AM)kanonathena Wrote: The human body is based on the great ape and it is said that most ETs look very similar to us, are their body also based on the great ape, do they have great ape on their planets?

(07-03-2011, 09:27 AM)zenmaster Wrote:

(07-03-2011, 08:40 AM)kanonathena Wrote: The human body is based on the great ape and it is said that most ETs look very similar to us, are their body also based on the great ape, do they have great ape on their planets?

According to the material, most ETs do not look very similar to us. The further away the logoi are to each other, the less likely they are to use the same or similar archetypal principles. Where there are similar 3D forms, such as we have in the local area, the obvious conclusion is that there was evolution from an ape-like form.

(07-03-2011, 11:51 AM)Oceania Wrote: i think it extends outside the solar system given that the solar system is very small. there's a handful of planets. also if sirians and arcturians look like us, that means our galaxy.

(07-03-2011, 12:12 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote:

Quote:90.8 Questioner: I see. Very roughly, if you were to move a third-density entity from some other planet to this planet, what percentage of all of those within the knowledge of Ra would look enough like entities of Earth so that they would go unnoticed in a crowd?
Ra: I am Ra. Perhaps five percent.

90.9 Questioner: Then there is an extreme variation in the form of the physical vehicle in third density in the universe. I assume that this is also true of fourth density. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is so. We remind you that it is a great theoretical distance between demanding that the creatures of an infinite creation be unnoticeably similar to one’s self and observing those signs which may be called human which denote the third-density characteristics of self-consciousness, the grouping into pairs, societal groups, and races, and the further characteristic means of using self-consciousness to refine and search for the meaning of the milieu.

90.10 Questioner: Within Ra’s knowledge of the third-density physical forms, what percentage would be similar enough to this planet’s physical forms that we would assume the entities to be human even though they were a bit different? This would have to be very rough because of my definition’s being very rough.
Ra: I am Ra. This percentage is still small; perhaps thirteen to fifteen percent due to the capabilities of various second-density life forms to carry out each necessary function for third-density work. Thusly to be observed would be behavior indicating self-consciousness and purposeful interaction with a sentient ambiance about the entity rather than those characteristics which familiarly connote to your peoples the humanity of your third-density form.

The misconception that most ETs look like us comes from David Wilcock, who claims to be a student of the LOO, but obviously didn't read this part.

There are even more quotes I could dig up from the Ra material that claims most other ET civilizations look very unlike us if anyone else wants further reference.

(07-03-2011, 11:37 AM)Conifer16 Wrote:

(07-03-2011, 09:27 AM)zenmaster Wrote:

(07-03-2011, 08:40 AM)kanonathena Wrote: The human body is based on the great ape and it is said that most ETs look very similar to us, are their body also based on the great ape, do they have great ape on their planets?

According to the material, most ETs do not look very similar to us. The further away the logoi are to each other, the less likely they are to use the same or similar archetypal principles. Where there are similar 3D forms, such as we have in the local area, the obvious conclusion is that there was evolution from an ape-like form.

Hi,

I thought that Ra said that the template for third density life in this galaxy was human. Wait. Did they mean solar system because I know that Ra made that mistake sometimes?

Thanks,
Conifer16
Adonai Vasu Borragus

(07-03-2011, 12:22 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: You may be thinking about this:

Quote:90.12 Questioner: Was there a reason for choosing the forms that have evolved on this planet and, if so, what was it?
Ra: I am Ra. We are not entirely sure why our Logos and several neighboring Logoi of approximately the same space/time of flowering chose the bipedal, erect form of the second-density apes to invest. It has been our supposition, which we share with you as long as you are aware that this is mere opinion, that our Logos was interested in, shall we say, further intensifying the veiling process by offering to the third-density form the near complete probability for the development of speech taking complete precedence over concept communication or telepathy. We also have the supposition that the so-called opposable thumb was looked upon as an excellent means of intensifying the veiling process so that rather than rediscovering the powers of the mind the third-density entity would, by the form of its physical manifestation, be drawn to the making, holding, and using of physical tools

By Logoi here, Ra means local Logoi, our sun and nearby stars.

(07-03-2011, 08:40 AM)kanonathena Wrote: The human body is based on the great ape and it is said that most ETs look very similar to us, are their body also based on the great ape, do they have great ape on their planets?

(07-03-2011, 12:52 PM)kycahi Wrote: Ankh, if I ever try to visualize a Ra entity I suppose it would look kind of like us, although never as nice looking as you.

(07-03-2011, 12:27 PM)Ankh Wrote:

(07-03-2011, 12:22 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: You may be thinking about this:

Quote:90.12 Questioner: Was there a reason for choosing the forms that have evolved on this planet and, if so, what was it?
Ra: I am Ra. We are not entirely sure why our Logos and several neighboring Logoi of approximately the same space/time of flowering chose the bipedal, erect form of the second-density apes to invest. It has been our supposition, which we share with you as long as you are aware that this is mere opinion, that our Logos was interested in, shall we say, further intensifying the veiling process by offering to the third-density form the near complete probability for the development of speech taking complete precedence over concept communication or telepathy. We also have the supposition that the so-called opposable thumb was looked upon as an excellent means of intensifying the veiling process so that rather than rediscovering the powers of the mind the third-density entity would, by the form of its physical manifestation, be drawn to the making, holding, and using of physical tools

By Logoi here, Ra means local Logoi, our sun and nearby stars.

Is Ra evolved from the apes too then, and is human looking? Or was investment made only in this planet?

(07-03-2011, 11:37 AM)Conifer16 Wrote:

(07-03-2011, 09:27 AM)zenmaster Wrote:

(07-03-2011, 08:40 AM)kanonathena Wrote: The human body is based on the great ape and it is said that most ETs look very similar to us, are their body also based on the great ape, do they have great ape on their planets?

According to the material, most ETs do not look very similar to us. The further away the logoi are to each other, the less likely they are to use the same or similar archetypal principles. Where there are similar 3D forms, such as we have in the local area, the obvious conclusion is that there was evolution from an ape-like form.

Hi,

I thought that Ra said that the template for third density life in this galaxy was human. Wait. Did they mean solar system because I know that Ra made that mistake sometimes?

Thanks,
Conifer16
Adonai Vasu Borragus

(07-04-2011, 12:56 AM)kanonathena Wrote: I remember Ra said they spent their third density as trees (vegetables)?

(07-04-2011, 09:16 AM)Crown Wrote: I always said no because it wont make sense, why would an alien race look like bugs and kill everything on sight. But hey, it actually sounds very logical... on some lvel of evolutionary proccess.

(07-04-2011, 10:59 AM)unity100 Wrote:

(07-04-2011, 09:16 AM)Crown Wrote: I always said no because it wont make sense, why would an alien race look like bugs and kill everything on sight. But hey, it actually sounds very logical... on some lvel of evolutionary proccess.

such act would be the act of 2d.

'purposeful interaction' is what Ra used in definition of how 3d life would be recognizable.

the act above doesnt appear too purposeful. even if it had a purpose, it would be temporary.

(07-04-2011, 12:56 AM)kanonathena Wrote: I remember Ra said they spent their third density as trees (vegetables)?

(07-04-2011, 01:29 PM)Crown Wrote: But then, you can imagine infinite scenarios where this 3d alien race would have a purpose to anihilate anything in its path. It would be difficult for us to understand / agree with these purposes but they are potentially there.