Any possibility to transform the energy of the top third of pyramid

[0lin]

According to Ra's teaching, the energy intensified in the top third of pyramid can be used for building. I think this energy would be very possible the energy of prana or "chi". Indians develop a practical system to manipulate the prana of body, and so does the Chinese doing with "chi". Have anyone think about transforming this primitive energy to electricity?
Is anyone doing some experiment about charging the crystal? I am guessing charging the crystal may cause constant vibration of crystal without applying an input voltage, which will then produce alternating current from the charged crystal. But the problem is we have no idea how to charge the crystal.

[turtledude23]

I think the pyramid uses the earths energy and the shape funnels it into the crystal, also I think its location is important too.

[Ocean]

i just listened to something today about how crystals destroyed atlantis. might have been Ra. they said be very very careful with crystals, especially quartz crystals.

i think they charge batteries in the russian pyramids. prolly crystals too.

[0lin]

Just build a pyramid of apex angel of 76°18' with crystal materials and put it parallel with the magnetic field of earth, energy can be collected in high efficiency. The larger the pyramid is, the more can energy be collected.
Don't be afraid. Nothing is more powerful than the H-bomb. It's funny that this energy can be used for healing and constructing, but we don't know what it is.

[Ens Entium]

This is very interesting, i don't think this would've ever occured to me, hehe. I think because this is potentially so important it could do with some analysis.

You say that the crystal becomes 'charged' by the energy leaving from the third spiral. I always assumed this meant that the crystal then more coherently and intensely carries the light energy. Not that it was electrically charged.

Would you explain how an electrical charge could be created here?

[Namaste]

Graham Hancock (wonderful being) mentioned a tale from an older expedition to Giza. A scientist ventured to the top of the Great Pyramid with some helpers. He felt electricity in the air, and made a very crude conductive device from a wine bottle.

Electricity hissed from the bottle, to the point the helpers (native Egyptians) thought he was a sorcerer :¬)

There is an excellent documentary called The Pyramid Code which also goes into the conductive elements of its construction.

[0lin]

You know about the piezoelectricity. I am just guessing when crystal materials was charged by an balanced entity according to Ra for example, the crystal would vibrate(shake), and then electricity can be collected from nothing. But i do believe there's another way to charge crystal. The problem is we don't know what energy charged the crystal. I dong't think it is the energy of the top third of pyramid. There should be some differences.

The energy of the top third seems to be some kind of unified field. The great pyramid is so huge, there's no surprise that some of the energy spontaneously transform to electro-magnetic form or it just build a electro-magnetic field. But most of the energy is emitted out of the pyramid, so the electro-magnetic field is a weak one.

Look! There's a way to control, transform, and even store this energy. Nothing is complicated. It's not science fiction. It can be done with simple technology.

[Namaste]

Yes indeed, the Great Pyramid offers much, much more than electrical charge. Imagine viewing it with metaphysical eyes, watching the energy spiral and charge/change the physical.

According to the research in the Pyramid Code (along with words from the knowledge keeper, who has passed away now), they used running water and sunlight to generate power.

[Ens Entium]

Graham Hancock (wonderful being) mentioned a tale from an older expedition to Giza. A scientist ventured to the top of the Great Pyramid with some helpers. He felt electricity in the air, and made a very crude conductive device from a wine bottle.

Electricity hissed from the bottle, to the point the helpers (native Egyptians) thought he was a sorcerer :¬)

There is an excellent documentary called The Pyramid Code which also goes into the conductive elements of its construction.

Thank you..

Yes indeed, the Great Pyramid offers much, much more than electrical charge. Imagine viewing it with metaphysical eyes, watching the energy spiral and charge/change the physical.

Sorry if i'm being pesty... but how?

According to the research in the Pyramid Code (along with words from the knowledge keeper, who has passed away now), they used running water and sunlight to generate power.

I assume in a similar fashion to how power stations these days work?

[Namaste]

Here's a good start...

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=56&ss=1

... and if you have time to spare...

http://lawofone.info/results.php?category=Pyramids&ss=1

I assume in a similar fashion to how power stations these days work?

Treat yourself to this:

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/pyramid-code/

[0lin]

Thank you Namaste! I've read the book. Here's my idea.
I think there're two ways to transform the energy, or bring the energy to our density. Use the vibration! Tesla coil is not used to make artificial lightning, but to resonate a kind of energy which is similar with the one in the top third of pyramid. Just build and set a pyramid by Ra's description with some kind of powerful crystal materials, which should large enough to put a Tesla coil in the top third. Connect the discharge end of the coil with some equipment that can measure the out put energy. Start the Tesla coil by a ultra-high-power generator. Tune the frequency of the input current, test a range of frequencies, and find out in what frequency the out put energy will be the largest. We may get a chance to produce more electric energy than we input.
The second way is to use crystal. Use pyramid to make the crystal vibrate in great amplitude, then we can collect electricity by its attribute of piezoelectricity. But i don't know how to vibrate the crystal using pyramid.

[Daniel]

Wow guys, this stuff is very interesting. I'm very interested in playing with and trying to produce some kind of usable free (or relatively free) energy. I think some of us on here could collaborate and try to get some workable models going.

I haven't thought about using the pyramid as a source of energy, but I think it could definitely be possible. I have built small wooden pyramids myself and experienced some kind of concentrated energy at the third spiral position, but as to the nature of this energy I am not sure.

[0lin]

I will continue this work after 2012.

[Peregrinus]

Just build a pyramid of apex angel of 76°18' with crystal materials and put it parallel with the magnetic field of earth, energy can be collected in high efficiency. The larger the pyramid is, the more can energy be collected.

This is incorrect. The size matters not to the amount of energy which is funneled out the top, for intelligent infinity is the same regardless. Size only matters when it comes to having areas or chambers used for initiation or healing. Secondly, Ra specifically stated to use only structures with an apex of less than 70°.

Nothing is more powerful than the H-bomb.

This is also incorrect. The One Creator is more powerful

It's funny that this energy can be used for healing and constructing, but we don't know what it is.

Lastly, again, this is also incorrect. The energy is intelligent infinity. To know what that is requires activation of the indigo ray, otherwise known as enlightenment.

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Yes indeed, the Great Pyramid offers much, much more than electrical charge. Imagine viewing it with metaphysical eyes, watching the energy spiral and charge/change the physical.

Indeed, though it no longer functions.

According to the research in the Pyramid Code (along with words from the knowledge keeper, who has passed away now), they used running water and sunlight to generate power.

The energy was indeed produced from the system of water which is beneath the pyramids. It has been suggested that because of the type of stone used, that the entire pyramid glowed at night. That must have been awe inspiring.

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Charging a crystal is easy. Place the crystal above a pyramid for the period of time approximately 30 minutes. More than such time will make no difference as it will be already fully charged.

[Bring4th_Steve]

I am reading more and more information from various christ-conscious channelings that crystal devices will be introduced upon Disclosure to allow humanity to move away from today's energy system and to begin using the crystals to draw as much energy as needed to power our conventional electronics devices. What was inspiring to me was reading that people around the world are starting to produce free energy devices through their own divine insights. That led me to wonder about crystal technologies as part of the free energy equation.

I was about to start a new thread on this topic when I decided to do a quick search. Glad I did, because I found others who have already expressed an interest in this stuff! So instead of starting a new thread, I'd like to see if anyone is interested in continuing the dialogue here, since it appears everyone dropped off since May.

I am interested in determining if there are certain crystal shapes (besides pyramids) that can somehow convey an electric charge into copper wire. I understand quartz has a natural piezoelectric effect when squeezed, but I am wondering if it's possible to generate something more significant, say, 1 volt.

Do we understand the piezo effect enough to know how it works on a mechanical basis? Are there any physical issues preventing us from ramping or scaling from this effect?

Has anyone played with crystal rods pointed at a parent crystal, with that parent crystal being wound in wire and hooked up to a sensitive voltmeter?

I'm really interested in seeing if crystals themselves can generate electricity on their own, or if their natural piezo electric effect can be enhanced through the help of other supporting crystals.

I tend to think it's entirely possible to achieve a small effect. If any of you have ever read about original earth batteries that were built in the ground, they were developed by sandwiching layers of metals and dirt, with a couple of metal rods to capture the charge. It was shown these contraptions would not hold any charge at first, yet after a few weeks or months, the earth-based batteries would ramp up and being producing serious voltage. And from what I read, these earth batteries were even used to power remote telegraph relay stations back in earlier times. Once the stations were replaced with more innovative technologies, the batteries were disconnected and disassembled. Yet a mystery still remained; there was an electrostatic charge in the space location where the battery plates once existed and reacted with one another!

So it feels like there's a lot of historical experiences that could be brought together and experimented with, particularly when factoring in crystals as an amplifier or an attenuator of natural waves into electrical waves.

A few of you had expressed an interest in testing out some theories and collaborating, and I noticed that 0Lin suddenly mentioned he's waiting until after 2012 to experiment further. (what's up with that, by the way?)

I was even going to go so far as to suggest that 3 or more of us could meditate on the issue at the same time and see if we come up with any interesting insights from our Higher Selves or from sources who wish to help with such requests.

Steve

[BrownEye]

You are describing orgone technology LoL. It is easy to build your own device for testing. I use them for reasons of energy and amplification.

You can combine with tesla coil to power things.

[Bring4th_Steve]

You are describing orgone technology LoL. It is easy to build your own device for testing. I use them for reasons of energy and amplification.

You can combine with tesla coil to power things.

Right, I saw the other thread where you included all of those pictures. Which, by the way is VERY cool! If any of you reading this has not seen Pickle's orgone handywork, check out this thread!


http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...967&page=2


But pickle, you sort of left me hanging... I'm looking for "practical" ways in which to generate electricity. Just saying "add a tesla coil" to something doesn't really answer to my request of collaborating with others in detail. What are the processes involved with working with Orgone? Any good sources to go to for it? I saw the pic of the crystal in your helmet wrapped in copper. How did you know how many times to wind the coil, or do you just throw everything together to see what kind of effect it produces?

Can you also stage a bunch of materials together to see how effective the combinations are before casting it all in resin and turning it into a paperweight?

I've also read many stories how orgone can be monitored and "seen", which has often resulted in people capturing black silent helicopters and other weird surveillance phenomena where there normally isn't any (this is especially true when people build huge, multi-pipe cloud busters). Have you had any experiences that might give me reason to be concerned in terms of working with the material or even attempting to buy it?

You seem to be really involved in this subject area, so if you don't mind, please open up!

By the way, what kind of voltage do you capture when you test the output of various orgone experiments?

Steve

[BrownEye]

Some pieces I have built put out a measurable EMF field. Other than that, I usually use these for etheric reasons, either shielding or adding growth to plants.

I have read of a teacher showing a class demo, using a tesla coil. Powered with a 9 volt battery it lit up a high output flourescent on the other side of the classroom. It sent out enough energy through the air. So that tells me you need very little "juice" to put out good energy from a tesla coil.

Now, the piezoelectric effect of a crystal comes out when pressure is applied to a crystal. Which is what happens in an orgone generator. Orgone itself is a "type" of energy, which apparently if condensed enough can become visible. Orgone is created with layers of organic and metal. Layers of organic material and metal can be done in a cylinder shape, like a capacitor. A capacitor needs voltage input to produce an output, but maybe not when an orgone generator is used.

A test would be to use a type of orgone generator, to pressurize the crystal, with leads coming out of it that can hook up to a tesla coil. I would assume the coil will have a different output power based on its size. It is also possible to make a layered device that utilizes the energy of the sun as an output, but don't know for sure if actual voltage will be produced rather than just "light radiation". The orgone device would need to be built somewhat like a capacitor, rather than just a bunch of shavings. I think the orgone device with leads in the right placement running to a tesla coil will produce a good possibility of energy. The energy radiating from the tesla coil then possibly powering electrical devices. It would be pretty cool since there would be no battery to deplete.

A small thing to think of is the spark in certain lighters. The voltage for the spark is generated by an instant of pressure to quartz.

[Bring4th_Steve]

Man, that is some incredibly interesting material you posted. I didn't know that some lighters use crystals to create the spark. Fascinating!

I would love to begin researching this space a little more. Have you come across any good sites that offer up a ton of links for those who wish to investigate further?

Also, you didn't mention yet... Have you had any interesting "encounters" by being such a heavy user of the orgone material?

Some pieces I have built put out a measurable EMF field. Other than that, I usually use these for etheric reasons, either shielding or adding growth to plants.

I have read of a teacher showing a class demo, using a tesla coil. Powered with a 9 volt battery it lit up a high output flourescent on the other side of the classroom. It sent out enough energy through the air. So that tells me you need very little "juice" to put out good energy from a tesla coil.

Now, the piezoelectric effect of a crystal comes out when pressure is applied to a crystal. Which is what happens in an orgone generator. Orgone itself is a "type" of energy, which apparently if condensed enough can become visible. Orgone is created with layers of organic and metal. Layers of organic material and metal can be done in a cylinder shape, like a capacitor. A capacitor needs voltage input to produce an output, but maybe not when an orgone generator is used.

A test would be to use a type of orgone generator, to pressurize the crystal, with leads coming out of it that can hook up to a tesla coil. I would assume the coil will have a different output power based on its size. It is also possible to make a layered device that utilizes the energy of the sun as an output, but don't know for sure if actual voltage will be produced rather than just "light radiation". The orgone device would need to be built somewhat like a capacitor, rather than just a bunch of shavings. I think the orgone device with leads in the right placement running to a tesla coil will produce a good possibility of energy. The energy radiating from the tesla coil then possibly powering electrical devices. It would be pretty cool since there would be no battery to deplete.

A small thing to think of is the spark in certain lighters. The voltage for the spark is generated by an instant of pressure to quartz.

[BrownEye]

I saw the pic of the crystal in your helmet wrapped in copper. How did you know how many times to wind the coil, or do you just throw everything together to see what kind of effect it produces?

Can you also stage a bunch of materials together to see how effective the combinations are before casting it all in resin and turning it into a paperweight?

I've also read many stories how orgone can be monitored and "seen", which has often resulted in people capturing black silent helicopters and other weird surveillance phenomena where there normally isn't any (this is especially true when people build huge, multi-pipe cloud busters). Have you had any experiences that might give me reason to be concerned in terms of working with the material or even attempting to buy it?

I haven't had any issues with surveilance, at least nothing out of the ordinary. There are a few different options for guidance with experiments. You can utilize any spiritual guides or any form of dowsing. I get telepathic thoughts occasionally which point me in certain directions, but I can also use dowsing to tell which polarity any end of any part I use might be. One of the secrets to efficient devices is to have all polarities flow one direction. Even a straight piece of wire has a polarity. It is good to learn a bit of the properties of anything you use, just so you can question your guidance when something does not make sense.

Also, I get the feeling that orgone is "seen" when first being made. When they are setting up they put out an incredible amount of energy, possibly from the addition of heat. I made a large piece and could not believe it was making my hand buzz, but once it was cooled off it was only half as strong of a vibration.

There are many things I have found out that are going on around us and in our homes, but I cannot say the black ops sightings are connected to what I have found.

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Have you come across any good sites that offer up a ton of links for those who wish to investigate further?

Also, you didn't mention yet... Have you had any interesting "encounters" by being such a heavy user of the orgone material?

Most of the info you come across is good for beginners. I have found that there is a generic direction that everyone takes, which is to build a simple "generator". I am not into building the generators anymore as much as an "intelligent" type of device. Intelligent meaning direct communication with the crystal as a way to gain assistance in times of need. I am becoming more aware of the astral world as a result of all this. Which is both good and bad. What might be called encounters would be nothing out of the ordinary for the average person. The difference would be awareness.

[Bring4th_Steve]

The way in which you are seeking to leverage orgone is evidence enough that you are way beyond the newbies out there who, as you said, are looking to light up an LED light. I realize you probably do not have any interest in teaching this stuff due to your focus being in other areas that are "more down the road". No problem at all! You've already inspired me to begin looking more deeply into this again, to see what has changed since I last read about orgone in the early 2000s.

Thank you for the input, Pickle!

[BrownEye]

Another energy device would be to combine two types of electric motors, like an alternator with a motor. Combining an efficient design that takes less input to create an output would give you a self powered setup. Not sure what kind excess wattage would be usable, but the idea is valid.
A gas powered generator has a gas motor to power the windings that produce electricity. The gas motor could be replaced with an electric motor if it was high torque and super efficient. It would just need a pull start or battery start to get it turned over enough to run itself. That would be a decent project if you can locate the right input/output rated parts.

[Bring4th_Steve]

Yep, those are certainly ideas, but remember that this is all about generating 1 volt from crystal power. When we start talking in generalities and migrating onto things like motors, we start to step away from the subject of electricity from crystals. My original request was to identify if there are a few members who would like to discuss actual parts used, the gauge of wiring used, the techniques of wrapping, amount of pressure was used, whether other crystals were used in an array, and the numeric results of any tests.

So I am looking to explore the basics of crystal power, where you already have significant experience with many other approaches. When I see you write, "combine two types of electric motors, like and alternator with a motor", you might as well ask me to build a 2011 car from scratch. I simply cannot relate to the abstract suggestions, but if I had a parts list, and explicit instructions for experimenting, I think I could be a lot more productive.

If you know of any good places to go for starting out with crystal work, please let me know!
Thanks,
Steve

Another energy device would be to combine two types of electric motors, like an alternator with a motor. Combining an efficient design that takes less input to create an output would give you a self powered setup. Not sure what kind excess wattage would be usable, but the idea is valid.
A gas powered generator has a gas motor to power the windings that produce electricity. The gas motor could be replaced with an electric motor if it was high torque and super efficient. It would just need a pull start or battery start to get it turned over enough to run itself. That would be a decent project if you can locate the right input/output rated parts.

[BrownEye]

Sorry I got off track LoL.

Once I get more resin I will be testing the volt idea. I just need to find out exactly what point to have leads come from. I had an idea of building an actual capacitance version a while back, just haven't yet done it.

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Piezoelectricity is found in useful applications such as the production and detection of sound, generation of high voltages, electronic frequency generation, microbalances, and ultrafine focusing of optical assemblies. It is also the basis of a number of scientific instrumental techniques with atomic resolution, the scanning probe microscopies such as STM, AFM, MTA, SNOM, etc., and everyday uses such as acting as the ignition source for cigarette lighters and push-start propane barbecues.

High voltage and power sources

Direct piezoelectricity of some substances like quartz, as mentioned above, can generate potential differences of thousands of volts.
The best-known application is the electric cigarette lighter: pressing the button causes a spring-loaded hammer to hit a piezoelectric crystal, producing a sufficiently high voltage electric current that flows across a small spark gap, thus heating and igniting the gas. The portable sparkers used to light gas grills or stoves work the same way, and many types of gas burners now have built-in piezo-based ignition systems.
A similar idea is being researched by DARPA in the United States in a project called Energy Harvesting, which includes an attempt to power battlefield equipment by piezoelectric generators embedded in soldiers' boots. However, these energy harvesting sources by association have an impact on the body. DARPA's effort to harness 1-2 watts from continuous shoe impact while walking were abandoned due to the impracticality and the discomfort from the additional energy expended by a person wearing the shoes. Other energy harvesting ideas include harvesting the energy from human movements in train stations or other public places[17][18] and converting a dance floor to generate electricity.[19] Vibrations from industrial machinery can also be harvested by piezoeletric materials to charge batteries for backup supplies or to power low power microprocessors and wireless radios.[20]
A piezoelectric transformer is a type of AC voltage multiplier. Unlike a conventional transformer, which uses magnetic coupling between input and output, the piezoelectric transformer uses acoustic coupling. An input voltage is applied across a short length of a bar of piezoceramic material such as PZT, creating an alternating stress in the bar by the inverse piezoelectric effect and causing the whole bar to vibrate. The vibration frequency is chosen to be the resonant frequency of the block, typically in the 100 kilohertz to 1 megahertz range. A higher output voltage is then generated across another section of the bar by the piezoelectric effect. Step-up ratios of more than 1000:1 have been demonstrated. An extra feature of this transformer is that, by operating it above its resonant frequency, it can be made to appear as an inductive load, which is useful in circuits that require a controlled soft start.[21] These devices can be used in DC-AC inverters to drive cold cathode fluorescent lamps. Piezo transformers are some of the most compact high voltage sources.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piezoelectricity

Should not be too hard to do.

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Piezoelectric materials generate electricity when the dimensions are forced to change under stress. But just during the change.

When embedded in resin, it is under stress 100% of the time.

In gas lighters you obtain several thousand volts (2-5 kV) and currents of the other of 1 mA (very short in duration).
It is very unpleasant to touch the spark point.

This should tell you what is possible.

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=168808