Spiritual Community

[Sacred Fool]

 
This is a rather interesting transcript.  The group known as Monka says it is a 5D guardian of the 3D Mars population and gives some information about that, but more pertinent, in my view, is the material regarding spiritual communities, excerpted below.


https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issue..._0202.aspx

I am Monka. ...

It is our specialty within the Confederation to share our humble opinions upon the subject of those issues concerned with community and social responsibilities. Our planetary population had in your density and in the fourth density a very strong desire for harmony and thusly we became what has been called a social memory complex in late third density, which is the density and the period within that density which you now share.

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The question of community is an extension of this suggestion. It is of primary importance that the deeper rhythms be acknowledged within those who have found companionship with each other. It is not chance or accident when two people meet and recognize each other. When this occurs it is not to be doubted—it is also not to be abused. Thus, the first hallmark of successful sharing of experience in community is that each, while acknowledging the deep currents which brought each together with each, shall also be aware of—even militantly aware of—the individual currents and rhythms which may express themselves as crosscurrents within a community or even as contrary tides at times. Freedom is the hallmark of successful community—freedom to be yourself, freedom of each to be himself and freedom to experiment, to make mistakes, to be at risk and to grow.

Upon other occasions through other channels we have spoken of that life which we enjoyed in fourth density. There was a need at the time at which we spoke for people to consider specific topics such as education, the use of money, and so forth. We do not find such concerns within this group’s seeking for a sense of true community, and for this we are grateful, for topics such as we have just mentioned are the outward and visible signs of an inward and spiritual gift. It is the inward and spiritual gift that concerns each: how does one give of oneself freely and in joy, without diminishing the self and without diminishing those other selves over whom we may have undue influence?
That is a great concern and it is for this reason that we counsel the exaggerated respect for each freedom in spiritual seeking. May we say that which is obvious so that it shall not be left out when one is working with a group of people. It goes almost without saying that each shall attempt to be honest, forthright and of service to others. Since we understand that each of you has accepted this, we do no more than mention it.

We would ask you to consider, then, the deeper reasons for community. Events cause a message to be given both metaphysically and physically. The coming together of entities in order to form spiritual community is an event, and the manifestation that it shall have is caught up in the event itself. The event causes a message; the message is heard by those whom you do not know and can never know, and this message in turn allows transformation among others. Thus, we suggest to you that before joining together in community the overriding goals be grasped in a unified manner so that each, while unique, shares the goal with each other in the community.

Our second observation is this. Great ideas without the addition of perseverance, the sense of humor, the light touch, shall cause each self to draw upon the human, if we may use that term, resources. Even the use of words causes variation betwixt people so that understanding cannot be shared fully. If each brings a light and forms a community of lights, those lights together form a great light, a city of light, if you will, in the metaphysical sense. And yet if you expect to sustain that light by intellectual practice or by dependence upon logic alone, the light will lose its luster, it will dim and the darkness will overcome it. Thus, we suggest that the common goal never be taken for granted, but that some form or ritual for the remembrance of that goal and the surrender to that goal be at the very heart of community.

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We would like to emphasize that while there is great potential for happiness as you call it, or joy, and for companionship in community, these states of the emotion and mind are transient and the pursuit of them in or out of community shall result in disappointment as the moments of joy depart. We suggest to you, therefore, the possible wisdom of surprising yourself by appreciating the joys that occur without attempting to retain that state of mind and emotion, for these swings in emotion are of the surface, for in happiness one is still oneself and even in human joy, if we may use that term again, the importance of this state of mind is that of the stone which causes ripples to pass in their circular, outward gyration. Happiness is with you and then gone. To expect community to supply one with happiness is unrealistic due to the nature of that emotion. We are not saying that happiness is to be scorned—it is to be savored. But to cling to one happiness is to lose another, as if laughing too long at one jest, one may fail to hear the next cause for laughter.

Rather, we suggest the discipline in community of whatever size of the regular sharing of two things most of all. The food and drink which is symbolic of so many other necessary foods—for the soul, for the mind and for the heart and of the coming together in meditation, in thankfulness and in praise for that which is, which has been and which will be always the same. In that is joy and the heavens are full of this joy. A large portion of your creation has never left that primal joy and dwells in infinite joy. May you be one. May you be one, my children—and may you love each other, serve each other and cause your events to serve as a message that will aid others who are seeking their own ways.

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Carla: One last thing and then I’ll shut up. A very capable woman who has been in community for twelve years wrote a letter to Jim and me that we got this week, and she said from her experience that the three biggest problems in community were money, sex and children. Would you care to comment on that in any way …
L: (Sotto voce) Life.

Carla: … or just leave it—it doesn’t matter.
I am Monka, and we would agree with the one known as L that these areas are those most frequently utilized by your peoples to generate opportunities for what you would call the spiritual advancement, for within these three areas, the identification of the individual self is given the opportunity to either learn the love and acceptance of those about it or to gather for the self as much protection from and control over other selves as possible. Thus, it is natural that when entities would seek to join each with the other in a closer relationship that those areas would be primary for growth potential.

 

[Sacred Fool]

 
This is another rather interesting snippet from the following month, March 23, 1986.  The final paragraph makes a point about spiritual community, harmony and the efficacy of channeling.  I just thought I'd tack it on here.

Carla: Well, before we close up shop, I do have one more question which will try the instrument’s abilities to be a channel. Is there any way open to us as we are now to receive the rest of the information having to do with the archetypes of body and spirit which Ra was giving in the trance state when Don was alive? And if so, how should we prepare for or approach that way?
 
I am Latwii, and am aware of your query, my sister. We find that there is one area in which we may speak, and that is to refocus the attention upon the use of your own instrument by those of the entities known to this group as L/Leema. In the pursuit of this information it is possible that after a sufficient amount of study has been accomplished of that information which is already available within these areas, that sessions could be had that would focus upon one archetypical image at a time, as you would say, and information could then be received of a somewhat more precise nature. We cannot speak as to the advisability of pursuing this information through the contact with those of Ra, for this is an area that lies most completely within the free will of your own making.
May we answer further, my sister?
 
Carla: Could you give a subjective opinion as to the degree of distortion from the information Ra might give which would be present in information from L/Leema? In other words, how watered-down or distorted would this information be?
 
I am Latwii, and we find that this query is one with variable possibilities of response due to the factors which would comprise each session. These factors would be variable according to the entities present, their interest in this kind of information, the general level of vital energy, of all present for the session and the preparations in the way of study, shall we say, that had gone into the, shall we say, mental and emotional computations prior to the sessions. In general, we may suggest that the degree of accuracy that could be hoped for would be seventy-five to eighty percent in relation to the accuracy that was achieved in the contact with those known as Ra.
 
May we answer further, my sister?
 
Carla: No—that’s fairly high. Let me make sure I understand. This would have to be a special series, then, not the open invitations. You can just confirm that. And would you suggest any opening or ritual preceding the asking of the group question?
 
I am Latwii, and we find that you have discovered areas of importance that would indeed be of assistance if accomplished in a dedicated fashion. Yet this again must be respected as lying within the domain of your own choosing. We may suggest that it would be well to ascertain that each entity attending such a session was indeed interested in the information which was being sought, and that there might be an enhancement of the tuning process by the formation of rituals used for these sessions alone. The construction of such rituals and the dedication procedure must be left to your own discrimination.
 
May we answer further, my sister?
 
Carla: No, thank you.
 
I am Latwii, and we thank you, my sister. Is there another query?
 
Carla: Yes. Is the instrument in the Ra session of a deep enough stability of mind to resume the exercise of the [Middle Pillar] as a magical personality? This entity is unable to judge this for itself.
I am Latwii, and we find that we once again must not cross the line or Law of Confusion, for in these areas there is a great metaphysical charge or power, shall we say, that one is working with, and the work in such areas must be carefully guarded that it is a function totally of the free will of the entity seeking this power. Thus, we must refrain from specific response, my sister, and must once again apologize for a lack of information.
 
May we answer in another fashion or another query?
 
Carla: No, thank you.
 
I am Latwii, and again we thank you, my sister. Is there another query at this time?
 
Carla: Could you give me an idea of how much advantage in percentage it would be for the people involved in such special sessions to be dwelling under the same roof and living in harmony as opposed to dwelling apart and living in harmony?
 
I am Latwii, and am aware of your query, my sister. We can suggest that there would be a significant advantage to the type of companionship that produces harmony on a regular basis, for the constant interaction of entities provides for the constant refinement, empowering and enhancement of the harmony that is necessary in any undertaking of this nature.

FYI, L/Leema is a SMC (5D, I believe) Confederation member who, in another session, said they chose a name appropriate for working with this group.  And it seems as though the concept of creating a special group to focus on the archetypes went unfulfilled.
 
 

[RitaJC]

There's another thing that has been tickling my curiosity since I first saw the name Latwii: during this lifetime, I belong to a nation called Latvians, which is a rather young one formed by the descendants of some of the Baltic peoples...

[Sacred Fool]

 
Here's a short related passage.

https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issue..._0727.aspx

In conclusion, we shall say to those who are already light workers upon the path that in a more intensive learning situation it is most helpful first to achieve the ability to be solitary happily and then to work towards the sharing of your path with at least one other person. In the majority of cases, this one other person is the mate, and it was for this reason that so many entities have attributed in all honesty their achievements to the love of the mate, for, indeed, two who seek together shall always be more balanced than one who seeks alone.

And to go further, perhaps you have wondered why there is an almost unignorable call to live in community with others at this time, and, indeed, for two of your millennia? My friends, this is due to the nascent art to create the social memory complex, and it is again a very helpful mode to achieve harmoniously. It is very difficult for entities who have finally learned to be self-reliant, shall we say, to then make what seems to be a backward turn towards reliance upon others, and yet it is a celebration of the unity of oneself with others which impels sensitive entities towards a communal life. More hands mean more potential. More hearts and minds working in unison towards the same desire mean that each prayer, each praise, each thanksgiving is more powerful and holds more promise to those who are prayed for, who are loved, and for whom each community wishes to do its work.

 
 

[omcasey]

This is a timely thread topic.

I have been given so much this past year relative to grouping.. given the feeling of the importance of awakening groups of individuals to now group with other awakening groups. It is maybe where I alone am in my process, or it may be where the awakening ones are mass arriving, and/or where all this is relative to the world Epoch and the times. Does anyone also feel this? Are you being given even more impetus now, than before? Is it something prevalent in your experiencing at the moment?

Thank you for sharing these beautiful messages, Sacred Fool.


Casey

[Louisabell]

Thank you so much for finding these quotes SF! I've been busy these last couple weeks, but I will make some time to reflect on these passages and respond with some thoughts.

[Louisabell]

I wrote something and then I scrapped it. This is my second attempt at addressing the first quoted passage, as it touches on some pretty intricate balances in reaching that grade of spiritual community, I believe. I really enjoyed it, so thanks to whoever channeled it.

From the first few lines, this channeled entity makes the point that first and foremost, community members are to have "a very strong desire for harmony". Harmony is yearned for in the heart and mind, with a strong intention set. And so, to not care about harmony, to not make it a priority, would be insufficient. This is not a step that can be missed. Yet how is this harmony to be conducted? What are the ideals that balances and grounds this harmony so that it has solid footing? So that it is not forced or manufactured or easily corruptible? The entity goes on to share: "Freedom is the hallmark of successful community—freedom to be yourself, freedom of each to be himself and freedom to experiment, to make mistakes, to be at risk and to grow." This is a statement which sings the praises of acceptance. It is an acknowledgement of the divine right of all beings to find their way back home to the One in their own way. This freedom must be universalised if it is to benefit the whole community, and so must be extended to all. How often do we demand this freedom for ourselves, but then not for the other? How often do we look to judgement, almost to the form of nitpicking at another's way of being, in order to make ourselves more comfortable in a group? And so, not having healthy and respectful boundaries with one another, giving into the temptation of molding the other in order to reach harmony, is no real harmony at all and likely to cause discordant energies to go underneath, making them more difficult to be attended to. Yet, in caring for one another, we also willingly desire to express accommodation, tolerance and hospitality. We should desire to put others at ease, if they are not already so.

The balances to hit here are incredibly nuanced and ambitious, almost seemingly unattainable. It then dawned on me that this whole passage could just as easily be describing the effect of love on a group of people. Doesn't love give a group the capacity to both move to connect, unify and harmonise, while also holding a space of openness, acceptance and freedom? Love is as constructive, in its ability to form bonds and create a culture of positive regard for the other, as it is flexible, in its forgiving nature which demands nothing in return.

Yet to have love as a goal, is similar to having harmony as a goal. We are consistently met with the issue of moving towards what others have claimed to be the artificial or superficial. Acting for the appearance of love, or just reinforcing our pre-existing intellectualised notions of what love is, what it looks like, how it behaves; instead of engaging in an exploration of love, in which experience is allowed to inform our evolving conceptions of it, if we must conceptualise it at all. Love and harmony, then perhaps, is not to be idolised, just as the positive emotions possible in spiritual communing are not to be held up as a goal. As they say, "to expect community to supply one with happiness is unrealistic due to the nature of that emotion". So love/harmony/joy operate in the background, inspiring, uplifting, imbuing, yet they remain like a warm breeze of air. We are to "appreciat[e] the joys that occur without attempting to retain that state of mind and emotion". 

The existence of loving harmony is similar to that of the sun's. The sun's role in life is unmistakable, our dependence on its energy unquestionable. Yet stare directly at the sun on a bright day and your eyesight will suffer for it. The world will dim as your retinas burn. We therefore go on with our day, enjoying the bounty that the sun's rays offer every square inch of the globe, with the simple condition... do not stare directly at the source, lest you be consumed in its fire.

And so, the spiritual community, I believe, must have a conduit, a practice which is grounded in life. We need to have work to do, to live and express our natures. We set goals which are practical and sustainable, but these are not the be all, end all. These transient goals provide us with our work, but they do not provide the why for our work. As they say, "if you expect to sustain that light by intellectual practice or by dependence upon logic alone, the light will lose its luster, it will dim and the darkness will overcome it." Simultaneously love/harmony/happiness cannot either be made into goals to be attained, and so we are left with process. We have a journey without destination, we have wandering, we have being. And to believe it can be anything more concrete than that, well, it would just take one out of that most fruitful space in which ambiguity is held in equanimity. Perhaps it is this place which allows one or many to step into and participate in the mystery itself.

[MonadicSpectrum]

@Louisabell, beautifully worded message! Thanks for sharing.

I always appreciate the analogy of a community with that of the orchestra seeking to play the best song for all to enjoy. It's a never ending goal yet we seek for it nonetheless, always making progress but never reaching completion. We all have our unique instruments that we are individually responsible for tuning and playing in the proper key while also playing in harmony with all the other musicians who partake in the community. I can attempt to get other musicians to play certain music by skillfully playing my own instrument, but it is always ultimately the choice of others which notes to play. The best songs are ultimately created through mutuality across musicians where all are enjoying the song that is being played and each responding to others in ways that only harmonize with the melody. Each musician understands there are times for others to have solos or others to have the melody but the melody is passed around to each instrument to get its turn leveraging its own strength.

Now, what is one to do when you have a community where many musicians don't realize they are musicians and often play random notes out of key in ignorance or in the mistaken idea this will get others to conform to what they believe the song should be? All you can do is continue playing the best notes you know how, attempting to harmonize with those still learning the basics of musicality and lead by example. Eventually, enough other musicians learn how to better create music together and start playing together in harmony. Others will observe the beautiful music and freely choose to start learning to contribute to the orchestra when they are ready because the beautiful music far surpasses all the random notes and disharmonious sounds that were produced before.

And for those who like a visual and audio representation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz133Yx7QSU

104.26... I am Ra. We leave you in appreciation of the circumstances of the great illusion in which you now choose to play the pipe and timbrel and move in rhythm. We are also players upon a stage. The stage changes. The acts ring down. The lights come up once again. And throughout the grand illusion and the following and the following there is the undergirding majesty of the One Infinite Creator. All is well. Nothing is lost. Go forth rejoicing in the love and the light, the peace and the power of the One Infinite Creator. I am Ra. Adonai.

[flofrog]

There might be so much progress when we truly try to walk into someone else shoes, even or precisely when that other seems to hold perspective so different from ours. It's like diving into cold water and finding that after all you feel this is not so cold after all. 'The stage changes. The acts ring down. The lights come up again... Nothing is lost' how right is Ra.

[Louisabell]

Your musical analogy is wonderful. There are so many rich parallels to draw here, which you have done. Perhaps the ease and depth that these parallels can be drawn is because a musical group such that you describe (and is shown in the video link provided) is a type of spiritual community already, one focused on the creation of musical art which feeds the soul and touches the heart through beautiful sound. Even though the group in the video may not call themselves a spiritual community, the way they seem to all be present in the moment together, with the sound vibrations in the air linking them together as one resonating force, it doesn't escape me that something quite spectacular is occurring there. That was just something that occurred to me when I was going through your post, so I thought I would share.

Others will observe the beautiful music and freely choose to start learning to contribute to the orchestra when they are ready because the beautiful music far surpasses all the random notes and disharmonious sounds that were produced before.

This touches on the service of being, the gift of authentic and radiant personhood. When a group can offer such being together, then surely a beautiful melody is played in the metaphysical planes which can be felt by others on some level.

The best way of service to others is the constant attempt to seek to share the love of the Creator as it is known to the inner self. This involves self knowledge and the ability to open the self to the other-self without hesitation. This involves, shall we say, radiating that which is the essence or the heart of the mind/body/spirit complex. (17.30)

I always appreciate the analogy of a community with that of the orchestra seeking to play the best song for all to enjoy. It's a never ending goal yet we seek for it nonetheless, always making progress but never reaching completion.

Great observation with that best song never reaching completion... with just 12 different musical notes (in Western music), music creation will never cease, and is played for its' own sake for there is no end to it. And because there is no end, there is no hurry, so it can be a wonderful reminder to relax and enjoy the moment as is.