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Spiritual Community - Sacred Fool - 07-19-2021 This is a rather interesting transcript. The group known as Monka says it is a 5D guardian of the 3D Mars population and gives some information about that, but more pertinent, in my view, is the material regarding spiritual communities, excerpted below. https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1986/1986_0202.aspx Quote:I am Monka. ... RE: Spiritual Community - Sacred Fool - 07-19-2021 This is another rather interesting snippet from the following month, March 23, 1986. The final paragraph makes a point about spiritual community, harmony and the efficacy of channeling. I just thought I'd tack it on here. Quote:Carla: Well, before we close up shop, I do have one more question which will try the instrument’s abilities to be a channel. Is there any way open to us as we are now to receive the rest of the information having to do with the archetypes of body and spirit which Ra was giving in the trance state when Don was alive? And if so, how should we prepare for or approach that way? FYI, L/Leema is a SMC (5D, I believe) Confederation member who, in another session, said they chose a name appropriate for working with this group. And it seems as though the concept of creating a special group to focus on the archetypes went unfulfilled. RE: Spiritual Community - RitaJC - 07-20-2021 There's another thing that has been tickling my curiosity since I first saw the name Latwii: during this lifetime, I belong to a nation called Latvians, which is a rather young one formed by the descendants of some of the Baltic peoples... RE: Spiritual Community - Sacred Fool - 07-20-2021 Here's a short related passage. https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1986/1986_0727.aspx L/Leema Wrote:In conclusion, we shall say to those who are already light workers upon the path that in a more intensive learning situation it is most helpful first to achieve the ability to be solitary happily and then to work towards the sharing of your path with at least one other person. In the majority of cases, this one other person is the mate, and it was for this reason that so many entities have attributed in all honesty their achievements to the love of the mate, for, indeed, two who seek together shall always be more balanced than one who seeks alone. RE: Spiritual Community - omcasey - 07-20-2021 This is a timely thread topic. I have been given so much this past year relative to grouping.. given the feeling of the importance of awakening groups of individuals to now group with other awakening groups. It is maybe where I alone am in my process, or it may be where the awakening ones are mass arriving, and/or where all this is relative to the world Epoch and the times. Does anyone also feel this? Are you being given even more impetus now, than before? Is it something prevalent in your experiencing at the moment? Thank you for sharing these beautiful messages, Sacred Fool. Casey RE: Spiritual Community - Louisabell - 07-21-2021 Thank you so much for finding these quotes SF! I've been busy these last couple weeks, but I will make some time to reflect on these passages and respond with some thoughts. RE: Spiritual Community - Louisabell - 08-05-2021 I wrote something and then I scrapped it. This is my second attempt at addressing the first quoted passage, as it touches on some pretty intricate balances in reaching that grade of spiritual community, I believe. I really enjoyed it, so thanks to whoever channeled it. From the first few lines, this channeled entity makes the point that first and foremost, community members are to have "a very strong desire for harmony". Harmony is yearned for in the heart and mind, with a strong intention set. And so, to not care about harmony, to not make it a priority, would be insufficient. This is not a step that can be missed. Yet how is this harmony to be conducted? What are the ideals that balances and grounds this harmony so that it has solid footing? So that it is not forced or manufactured or easily corruptible? The entity goes on to share: "Freedom is the hallmark of successful community—freedom to be yourself, freedom of each to be himself and freedom to experiment, to make mistakes, to be at risk and to grow." This is a statement which sings the praises of acceptance. It is an acknowledgement of the divine right of all beings to find their way back home to the One in their own way. This freedom must be universalised if it is to benefit the whole community, and so must be extended to all. How often do we demand this freedom for ourselves, but then not for the other? How often do we look to judgement, almost to the form of nitpicking at another's way of being, in order to make ourselves more comfortable in a group? And so, not having healthy and respectful boundaries with one another, giving into the temptation of molding the other in order to reach harmony, is no real harmony at all and likely to cause discordant energies to go underneath, making them more difficult to be attended to. Yet, in caring for one another, we also willingly desire to express accommodation, tolerance and hospitality. We should desire to put others at ease, if they are not already so. The balances to hit here are incredibly nuanced and ambitious, almost seemingly unattainable. It then dawned on me that this whole passage could just as easily be describing the effect of love on a group of people. Doesn't love give a group the capacity to both move to connect, unify and harmonise, while also holding a space of openness, acceptance and freedom? Love is as constructive, in its ability to form bonds and create a culture of positive regard for the other, as it is flexible, in its forgiving nature which demands nothing in return. Yet to have love as a goal, is similar to having harmony as a goal. We are consistently met with the issue of moving towards what others have claimed to be the artificial or superficial. Acting for the appearance of love, or just reinforcing our pre-existing intellectualised notions of what love is, what it looks like, how it behaves; instead of engaging in an exploration of love, in which experience is allowed to inform our evolving conceptions of it, if we must conceptualise it at all. Love and harmony, then perhaps, is not to be idolised, just as the positive emotions possible in spiritual communing are not to be held up as a goal. As they say, "to expect community to supply one with happiness is unrealistic due to the nature of that emotion". So love/harmony/joy operate in the background, inspiring, uplifting, imbuing, yet they remain like a warm breeze of air. We are to "appreciat[e] the joys that occur without attempting to retain that state of mind and emotion". The existence of loving harmony is similar to that of the sun's. The sun's role in life is unmistakable, our dependence on its energy unquestionable. Yet stare directly at the sun on a bright day and your eyesight will suffer for it. The world will dim as your retinas burn. We therefore go on with our day, enjoying the bounty that the sun's rays offer every square inch of the globe, with the simple condition... do not stare directly at the source, lest you be consumed in its fire. And so, the spiritual community, I believe, must have a conduit, a practice which is grounded in life. We need to have work to do, to live and express our natures. We set goals which are practical and sustainable, but these are not the be all, end all. These transient goals provide us with our work, but they do not provide the why for our work. As they say, "if you expect to sustain that light by intellectual practice or by dependence upon logic alone, the light will lose its luster, it will dim and the darkness will overcome it." Simultaneously love/harmony/happiness cannot either be made into goals to be attained, and so we are left with process. We have a journey without destination, we have wandering, we have being. And to believe it can be anything more concrete than that, well, it would just take one out of that most fruitful space in which ambiguity is held in equanimity. Perhaps it is this place which allows one or many to step into and participate in the mystery itself. RE: Spiritual Community - MonadicSpectrum - 08-15-2021 @Louisabell, beautifully worded message! Thanks for sharing. ![]() I always appreciate the analogy of a community with that of the orchestra seeking to play the best song for all to enjoy. It's a never ending goal yet we seek for it nonetheless, always making progress but never reaching completion. We all have our unique instruments that we are individually responsible for tuning and playing in the proper key while also playing in harmony with all the other musicians who partake in the community. I can attempt to get other musicians to play certain music by skillfully playing my own instrument, but it is always ultimately the choice of others which notes to play. The best songs are ultimately created through mutuality across musicians where all are enjoying the song that is being played and each responding to others in ways that only harmonize with the melody. Each musician understands there are times for others to have solos or others to have the melody but the melody is passed around to each instrument to get its turn leveraging its own strength. Now, what is one to do when you have a community where many musicians don't realize they are musicians and often play random notes out of key in ignorance or in the mistaken idea this will get others to conform to what they believe the song should be? All you can do is continue playing the best notes you know how, attempting to harmonize with those still learning the basics of musicality and lead by example. Eventually, enough other musicians learn how to better create music together and start playing together in harmony. Others will observe the beautiful music and freely choose to start learning to contribute to the orchestra when they are ready because the beautiful music far surpasses all the random notes and disharmonious sounds that were produced before. And for those who like a visual and audio representation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz133Yx7QSU Ra Wrote:104.26... I am Ra. We leave you in appreciation of the circumstances of the great illusion in which you now choose to play the pipe and timbrel and move in rhythm. We are also players upon a stage. The stage changes. The acts ring down. The lights come up once again. And throughout the grand illusion and the following and the following there is the undergirding majesty of the One Infinite Creator. All is well. Nothing is lost. Go forth rejoicing in the love and the light, the peace and the power of the One Infinite Creator. I am Ra. Adonai. RE: Spiritual Community - flofrog - 08-15-2021 There might be so much progress when we truly try to walk into someone else shoes, even or precisely when that other seems to hold perspective so different from ours. It's like diving into cold water and finding that after all you feel this is not so cold after all. 'The stage changes. The acts ring down. The lights come up again... Nothing is lost' how right is Ra. RE: Spiritual Community - Louisabell - 08-18-2021 Your musical analogy is wonderful. There are so many rich parallels to draw here, which you have done. Perhaps the ease and depth that these parallels can be drawn is because a musical group such that you describe (and is shown in the video link provided) is a type of spiritual community already, one focused on the creation of musical art which feeds the soul and touches the heart through beautiful sound. Even though the group in the video may not call themselves a spiritual community, the way they seem to all be present in the moment together, with the sound vibrations in the air linking them together as one resonating force, it doesn't escape me that something quite spectacular is occurring there. That was just something that occurred to me when I was going through your post, so I thought I would share. (08-15-2021, 12:31 PM)MonadicSpectrum Wrote: Others will observe the beautiful music and freely choose to start learning to contribute to the orchestra when they are ready because the beautiful music far surpasses all the random notes and disharmonious sounds that were produced before. This touches on the service of being, the gift of authentic and radiant personhood. When a group can offer such being together, then surely a beautiful melody is played in the metaphysical planes which can be felt by others on some level. Ra Wrote:The best way of service to others is the constant attempt to seek to share the love of the Creator as it is known to the inner self. This involves self knowledge and the ability to open the self to the other-self without hesitation. This involves, shall we say, radiating that which is the essence or the heart of the mind/body/spirit complex. (17.30) (08-15-2021, 12:31 PM)MonadicSpectrum Wrote: I always appreciate the analogy of a community with that of the orchestra seeking to play the best song for all to enjoy. It's a never ending goal yet we seek for it nonetheless, always making progress but never reaching completion. Great observation with that best song never reaching completion... with just 12 different musical notes (in Western music), music creation will never cease, and is played for its' own sake for there is no end to it. And because there is no end, there is no hurry, so it can be a wonderful reminder to relax and enjoy the moment as is. ![]() |