ReGenX generator / Perepiteia

[zenmaster]

Have been following Thane Heins' work for a few years now, since his posts on 'overunity.com' forums:

http://www.overunity.com/4047/thane-heins-perepiteia/
http://www.overunity.com/7530/thane-hein...lications/

He's built a device, the 'Perepiteia' machine, which apparently produces excess/unaccountable energy evidenced by motor acceleration under load:

"The apparent unique quality of the Perepiteia machine is that instead of maintaining a certain state of motion, it appears to generate acceleration. According to Heins, the Perepiteia produces magnetic friction which somehow gets turned into a magnetic boost. Using an electric motor, the drive shaft is attached to a steel rotor with small round magnets lining its outer edges. In this set-up of a simple generator, the rotor spins so that the magnets pass by a wire coil just in front of them, generating electrical energy."

He's currently attempting to use this excess energy in an electric-scooter application (for battery recharge). Demonstration videos here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ThaneCHeins

The question would be is this a heretofore undiscovered property of electro-magnetism being exploited, and possibly a new way to make more efficient motors (for example). Or is the demonstrated effect actually not more efficient? Since it's now in the form of a self-contained, closed system, it would seem that this his latest test will be capable of clearly showing any efficiency gains.

[Tenet Nosce]

Fascinating! Also interesting are the books he has in the background.

[zenmaster]

This is an interesting (updated) summary of Heins' efforts, and a good story on its own:
http://www.slideshare.net/ThaneCHeins/th...nomination

[zenmaster]

ReGenX generator demonstration, Part 1 (rough, unedited cut)

[zenmaster]

"Heins Effect Gaining Credibility" - Mike Brace

...When I last spoke to Thane several years ago he had come to grips with the mechanics of his technology, but not quite the explanation of it (at least not one that most engineers could understand). He could prove it in the lab to anyone that questioned it but without that basic, rock solid and understandable explanation of how his electric motor can draw less energy, and accelerate at the same time, most of his naive collogues just scratched their heads and walked away. Well, as a mechanical engineer I'm here to explain how it works and why it works. And it does work; over a dozen of us were witness to that last Monday ...

http://evworld.com/blogs/index.cfm?authorid=279

[native]

In the other videos you've posted, I assumed he was only in a more experimental phase. Part 3 here, he states how everything is basically ready to go commercial. Sounds promising.

In retrospect, it's always interesting how "easy" a solution to a paradigm can be, and it's great that he simply stumbled upon it.

[zenmaster]

In the other videos you've posted, I assumed he was only in a more experimental phase. Part 3 here, he states how everything is basically ready to go commercial. Sounds promising.

In retrospect, it's always interesting how "easy" a solution to a paradigm can be, and it's great that he simply stumbled upon it.

The technology is ready now, although no application (e.g. EV) apparently exists as yet. A Dutch engineer has recently, independently replicated the effect with his own device, using same principle but different components. That engineer also provided math for his measurements.

[native]

Did he use the coil modification that Thane uses?

[zenmaster]

Did he use the coil modification that Thane uses?

Yes, same general principle. He calls it a "delayed Lenz effect", and here are the related videos:

[native]

Nice. This is excellent news to say the least!

[Tenet Nosce]

How long can we expect until this technology is available to the public? Are they getting any resistance from the energy establishment folks?

[zenmaster]

How long can we expect until this technology is available to the public? Are they getting any resistance from the energy establishment folks?

As far as I can tell, the effect has only been shown to work in that demo form with the Ryobi bench grinder (for Heins). If there is indeed more torque produced with less power, then you obviously have a measurement error, or perhaps a gain in efficiency, or a completely new physics paradigm. With the scrutiny it's been subjected to (MIT, U of Ottawa, NRC, etc), it deserves some serious consideration, as the measured effect simply has not yet been adequately explained from the conventional standpoint.

Intuitively, I think of Eric Dollard's work with how 'electricity' (in the conceptual form of electron resistance) may be used differently when expressed as Tesla might have envisioned it (conceptually different), as a non-hertzian wave.

The technology, in principle, is literally available now. I'd think it'd just take a while before it can be properly integrated into a device (existing motor). First off, you'd need to perform various experiments in order to test gains in a particular application, right? With its relative simplicity, and non-secrecy (Rossi's tech), there should be news of its worth in less than a couple of months.

[Tenet Nosce]

With the scrutiny it's been subjected to (MIT, U of Ottawa, NRC, etc), it deserves some serious consideration, as the measured effect simply has not yet been adequately explained from the conventional standpoint.

Well, I sure hope the lack of explanation why it works does not prove to be too much of a stumbling block to the fact that it works. As I recall from pharmacology classes... a good 1/3 upwards to a 1/2 of all pharmaceutical drugs have an unknown, or poorly understood, mechanism of action. That doesn't stop them from being made available to the public.

Intuitively, I think of Eric Dollard's work with how 'electricity' (in the conceptual form of electron resistance) may be used differently when expressed as Tesla might have envisioned it (conceptually different), as a non-hertzian wave.

What is everybody's beef with Tesla, anyway? Sounds to me like it is taboo for scientists to take his work seriously.

Yea- I dunno. EM was never my thing, and I never made it past undergrad physics III- and even that was about 15 years ago. But still... maybe (over)education sometimes gets in the way of progress with these things.

As far as I recall- moving a magnet back and forth is going to generate an electrical current in a coil, right? And there is also going to be resistance to that current proportional to the strength of the magnetic field. So, if the magnet is reversing direction, there must be some point in the cycle where the resistance in the coil drops to zero. If one could redirect the energy back into the coil at the exact moment the resistance drops to zero... that could result in significant gains.

The technology, in principle, is literally available now. I'd think it'd just take a while before it can be properly integrated into a device (existing motor). First off, you'd need to perform various experiments in order to test gains in a particular application, right? With its relative simplicity, and non-secrecy (Rossi's tech), there should be news of its worth in less than a couple of months.

I guess what I don't understand is why it is such an uphill battle for these guys. The potential value of this kind of technology is so immense that I have a hard time understanding why the scientific community isn't falling all over themselves to figure out how it works.

In my opinion, we need more scientists who have the cajones to ask "How is this possible?" when presented with these technologies, and less of them snubbing their noses at it, or dismissing it out of hand because it doesn't fit with their theories.

[zenmaster]

I guess what I don't understand is why it is such an uphill battle for these guys. The potential value of this kind of technology is so immense that I have a hard time understanding why the scientific community isn't falling all over themselves to figure out how it works.

It's an uphill battle because they were/still are learning about how it works (the principles involved) and the only application is currently in the form of that motor that hasn't yet been shown to do any useful work. If they put it into an EV or power generator (for example), and it works better than the motor it replaces, then you have a demo which is infinitely more compelling. I agree the potential seems immense, and in contrast to the conspiracy tech failures, this one is actually documented with duplication and study encouraged.

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What is everybody's beef with Tesla, anyway? Sounds to me like it is taboo for scientists to take his work seriously.

Tesla had is own way of thinking about electricity and magnetism, developed from an incredible intuition (and apparently 'Confederation' help). The explanations he provided are still not very congruent with scientific thought (some kind of foundational E/M field or ether), yet the devices built from that understanding are undeniable and serve us very practically today. Dollard is one of the few that seems to understand where Tesla was coming from. Bottom line is that revolutionary discoveries require conventional treatment in their description in order to be seriously considered. People understand phenomena through conventional concepts.

[βαθμιαίος]

(some kind of foundational E/M field or ether)

Ra's plenum? "...that plenum full of the glory and the power of the One Infinite Creator which is manifested to your perceptions as space or outer space."

[zenmaster]

(some kind of foundational E/M field or ether)

Ra's plenum? "...that plenum full of the glory and the power of the One Infinite Creator which is manifested to your perceptions as space or outer space."

"I showed that the universal medium is a gaseous body in which only longitudinal pulses can be propagated, involving alternating compressions and expansions similar to those produced by sound waves in the air. Thus, a wireless transmitter does not propagate Hertz waves, which are a myth, but sound waves in the ether, behaving in every respect like those in the air, except that, owing to the great elastic force and extremely small density of the medium, their speed is that of light." (Source: "Pioneer Radio Engineer Gives Views on Power", published in the New York Herald Tribune, Sept. 11, 1932, [2, p.94 ].)
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1932-09-11.htm

Very reputable experimenters besides Tesla continued claiming that "space flowing electricity" is the real electricity. Tesla's classic demonstrations proved that rapid electrical impulses actually exceed the ability of fixed charges to transmit the applied forces. Charges lag where electrostatic forces continue propagating. One is compelled to see that electrostatic forces precede the movement of charges.

Tesla saw that electrostatic impulses could flow without line charges. His "zero current coils" operated simply because the charges themselves were immobilized. Electricity was shown to be more in the nature of a flowing force rather than a stream of massive particles. But what then was this "flowing current"?

In Tesla's view, radiant electricity is a space flowing current, which is NOT made of electrons. Later Victorians believed that there was a substance, which both filled all space and permeated all matter. Several serious researchers claimed to have identified this gas. Notables, such as Mendeleev predicted the existence of several ultra-rare gases, which preceded hydrogen. These, he claimed, were inert gases. This is why they were rarely detected. The inert gases, which Mendeleev predicted, formed an atmosphere, which flooded all of space. These gaseous mixtures composed the Aether.

Tesla and others believed that both electrical and magnetic forces were actually streams of Aether gas, which had been fixated in matter. Materials were somehow "polarized" by various "frictive" treatments by which an Aether gas flow was induced in them. Most materials could maintain the flow indefinitely, since no work was required on their part. Matter had only to remain polarized, transducing the Aether flow. The Aether gas contained all the power. Unlimited power.

This Aether gas power manifested as the electromagnetic forces themselves, adequate reason to pursue the development of an Aether gas engine. Such an engine could run forever on the eternal kinetic energies of the Aether itself, it being both generated and driven by the stars.

Tesla believed that radiant electricity is composed of Aether gas. He based this belief on the fact that his zero current coils were not conducting the "slow and dense" charges usually observed in ordinary electrical circuits. Abrupt impulses produced distinctive and different effects ... fluidic effects. The qualities ascribed by Tesla to "electricity" or things "electrical" in his numerous patent texts and press interviews are those, which refer to the Aether gas. Tesla did not refer to electron currents as "electricity". He did not equate "electricity" with electron flow. Whenever Tesla spoke of "electrical" effects he always described their effusive, gaseous quality.

Tesla referred to space as the "ambient or natural medium". Space, he claimed, was that which "conducts electricity". He had found a means by which this gaseous electrical flow could be greatly concentrated, magnified, and directed. He saw that this radiant electricity was, in reality, a gaseous emanation. An Aetheric emanation. This is why he made constant reference to fluidic terminology throughout his lectures.

Resistance, volume, capacity, reservoir, surface area, tension, pressure, pressure release: these were the terms upon which Tesla relied throughout his presentations. The terminology of hydraulics. Tesla also recognized that because Aether was a gas, it had aerodynamic requirements.

Aether, in Tesla's lexicon, was space flowing electricity: a gas of superlative and transcendent qualities. Aether was the electricity, which filled all of space, a vast reservoir of unsurpassable power. Motive, dynamic, and free for the taking. Aether gas technology would revolutionize the world. Aether gas engines would provide an eternal power source for the world. Science, industry, corporations, financial alignments, social orders, nations ... everything would change.

http://johnbedini.net/john34/Radiant1.htm

[βαθμιαίος]

Is there any overlap with Dewey Larson's concept of nothing but motion?

[zenmaster]

Is there any overlap with Dewey Larson's concept of nothing but motion?

Possibly, but AFAIK Larson himself did not attempt to fit his conceptualizations along these lines. Instead, due to his understanding of the reciprocal nature of space and time, he focused on explaining physical phenomena beyond the Newtonian conceptualizations in the regions of the 'very small' and 'very fast' (which currently fit under the Standard Model and astrophysics). But as far as I know, there is nothing in his RS framework (the fundamental postulates) that would preclude Tesla's theories from being derived from the first principles of scalar motion, if someone was willing to undertake that effort.

BTW, one theoretical construct which has attempted to describe physical phenomena along the lines of Tesla's thought is 'Aether Wave Theory' (AWT).

[Patrick]

Do we know how big such a device would have to be in order to charge a 23 kWh EV car battery within less than 12 hours ?

[zenmaster]

Thane Heins has recently removed his youtube and linkedin pages without explanation.

[Patrick]

Thane Heins has recently removed his youtube and linkedin pages without explanation.

That's a shame.

[Sagittarius]

Dam the illuminati got him hehe.

[native]

The LinkedIn page is up and there's also a new Youtube channel..

http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/pdi-ceo-thane.../30/2b/a74

http://www.youtube.com/user/PDiCanada1

[zenmaster]

Recently, another researcher (France) has successfully replicated two of Thane Heins' inventions: the Bi-Toroid Transformer (BiTT) and Regenerative Acceleration Generator (ReGenX).
http://jnaudin.free.fr/

[zenmaster]

"Free Energy - Delayed Lenz Effect"

[native]

Good deal.

[zenmaster]

"In regenerative acceleration mode 40 watts of output power from the generator
accelerates the system while recharging the batteries and simultaneously reducing motor input power"

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[native]

Looks like Thane is putting some funds to use.

[native]

Thane Heins Allows Open License of his Regenerative Acceleration (ReGenX) Technology

"Once you have the device advanced enough to do an “open license,” a set of plans are made available for people to downloaded for a nominal fee, which result in a practical energy generator device, pulling the energy from the environment somehow. Anyone is free to start a business building these and selling them. They would just be obligated to remit a royalty (e.g. 5% of retail) once they are to the stage of selling. So there is no up-front license fee or requirement — only a requirement to remit the royalty. This would hold true for plans, translations, kits, components, forums, franchises. Anything that brings in money as a direct result of these plans would be considered a commercial venture and would be obliged to remit a royalty."

[zenmaster]

Re-Gen-X Technology, says Heins, now allows electric vehicles to partially recharge their batteries as they drive without the decelerative effects associated with regenerative braking. The exact final magnitude of recharge capability has not yet been determined, but he says 76 per cent recharge capacity has already been established. His research in the field of flywheel energy storage was done in collaboration with Dr. Paul Allaire at the University of Virginia's Rotating Machines and Controls Laboratory. After a successful demonstration at the renowned Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the research continued at a University of Ottawa satellite lab in 2008. PDI's technologies were further developed and refined under the supervision of Dr. Riadh Habash in the University of Ottawa power lab in 2008, 2009 and 2010.

The technology, if it becomes a mainstay in the car and truck industry, will mean the end of fossil fuels as a major energy source for cars and trucks, and maybe trains and planes too.

http://www.insideottawavalley.com/news-s...echnology/