Quote:...When I last spoke to Thane several years ago he had come to grips with the mechanics of his technology, but not quite the explanation of it (at least not one that most engineers could understand). He could prove it in the lab to anyone that questioned it but without that basic, rock solid and understandable explanation of how his electric motor can draw less energy, and accelerate at the same time, most of his naive collogues just scratched their heads and walked away. Well, as a mechanical engineer I'm here to explain how it works and why it works. And it does work; over a dozen of us were witness to that last Monday ...

(03-21-2012, 11:50 AM)Icaro Wrote: In the other videos you've posted, I assumed he was only in a more experimental phase. Part 3 here, he states how everything is basically ready to go commercial. Sounds promising.

In retrospect, it's always interesting how "easy" a solution to a paradigm can be, and it's great that he simply stumbled upon it.

(03-21-2012, 09:38 PM)Icaro Wrote: Did he use the coil modification that Thane uses?

(03-22-2012, 06:02 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: How long can we expect until this technology is available to the public? Are they getting any resistance from the energy establishment folks?

(03-23-2012, 01:35 AM)zenmaster Wrote: With the scrutiny it's been subjected to (MIT, U of Ottawa, NRC, etc), it deserves some serious consideration, as the measured effect simply has not yet been adequately explained from the conventional standpoint.

Quote:Intuitively, I think of Eric Dollard's work with how 'electricity' (in the conceptual form of electron resistance) may be used differently when expressed as Tesla might have envisioned it (conceptually different), as a non-hertzian wave.

Quote:The technology, in principle, is literally available now. I'd think it'd just take a while before it can be properly integrated into a device (existing motor). First off, you'd need to perform various experiments in order to test gains in a particular application, right? With its relative simplicity, and non-secrecy (Rossi's tech), there should be news of its worth in less than a couple of months.

(03-24-2012, 05:02 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: I guess what I don't understand is why it is such an uphill battle for these guys. The potential value of this kind of technology is so immense that I have a hard time understanding why the scientific community isn't falling all over themselves to figure out how it works.

(03-24-2012, 05:02 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: What is everybody's beef with Tesla, anyway? Sounds to me like it is taboo for scientists to take his work seriously.

(03-24-2012, 05:21 PM)zenmaster Wrote: (some kind of foundational E/M field or ether)

(03-25-2012, 12:03 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote:

(03-24-2012, 05:21 PM)zenmaster Wrote: (some kind of foundational E/M field or ether)

Ra's plenum? "...that plenum full of the glory and the power of the One Infinite Creator which is manifested to your perceptions as space or outer space."

John Bedini, Radiant Electricity Wrote:Very reputable experimenters besides Tesla continued claiming that "space flowing electricity" is the real electricity. Tesla's classic demonstrations proved that rapid electrical impulses actually exceed the ability of fixed charges to transmit the applied forces. Charges lag where electrostatic forces continue propagating. One is compelled to see that electrostatic forces precede the movement of charges.

Tesla saw that electrostatic impulses could flow without line charges. His "zero current coils" operated simply because the charges themselves were immobilized. Electricity was shown to be more in the nature of a flowing force rather than a stream of massive particles. But what then was this "flowing current"?

In Tesla's view, radiant electricity is a space flowing current, which is NOT made of electrons. Later Victorians believed that there was a substance, which both filled all space and permeated all matter. Several serious researchers claimed to have identified this gas. Notables, such as Mendeleev predicted the existence of several ultra-rare gases, which preceded hydrogen. These, he claimed, were inert gases. This is why they were rarely detected. The inert gases, which Mendeleev predicted, formed an atmosphere, which flooded all of space. These gaseous mixtures composed the Aether.

Tesla and others believed that both electrical and magnetic forces were actually streams of Aether gas, which had been fixated in matter. Materials were somehow "polarized" by various "frictive" treatments by which an Aether gas flow was induced in them. Most materials could maintain the flow indefinitely, since no work was required on their part. Matter had only to remain polarized, transducing the Aether flow. The Aether gas contained all the power. Unlimited power.

This Aether gas power manifested as the electromagnetic forces themselves, adequate reason to pursue the development of an Aether gas engine. Such an engine could run forever on the eternal kinetic energies of the Aether itself, it being both generated and driven by the stars.

Tesla believed that radiant electricity is composed of Aether gas. He based this belief on the fact that his zero current coils were not conducting the "slow and dense" charges usually observed in ordinary electrical circuits. Abrupt impulses produced distinctive and different effects ... fluidic effects. The qualities ascribed by Tesla to "electricity" or things "electrical" in his numerous patent texts and press interviews are those, which refer to the Aether gas. Tesla did not refer to electron currents as "electricity". He did not equate "electricity" with electron flow. Whenever Tesla spoke of "electrical" effects he always described their effusive, gaseous quality.

Tesla referred to space as the "ambient or natural medium". Space, he claimed, was that which "conducts electricity". He had found a means by which this gaseous electrical flow could be greatly concentrated, magnified, and directed. He saw that this radiant electricity was, in reality, a gaseous emanation. An Aetheric emanation. This is why he made constant reference to fluidic terminology throughout his lectures.

Resistance, volume, capacity, reservoir, surface area, tension, pressure, pressure release: these were the terms upon which Tesla relied throughout his presentations. The terminology of hydraulics. Tesla also recognized that because Aether was a gas, it had aerodynamic requirements.

Aether, in Tesla's lexicon, was space flowing electricity: a gas of superlative and transcendent qualities. Aether was the electricity, which filled all of space, a vast reservoir of unsurpassable power. Motive, dynamic, and free for the taking. Aether gas technology would revolutionize the world. Aether gas engines would provide an eternal power source for the world. Science, industry, corporations, financial alignments, social orders, nations ... everything would change.

(03-25-2012, 02:45 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Is there any overlap with Dewey Larson's concept of nothing but motion?

(09-01-2012, 06:10 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Thane Heins has recently removed his youtube and linkedin pages without explanation.

Inside Ottawa Valley Wrote:Re-Gen-X Technology, says Heins, now allows electric vehicles to partially recharge their batteries as they drive without the decelerative effects associated with regenerative braking. The exact final magnitude of recharge capability has not yet been determined, but he says 76 per cent recharge capacity has already been established. His research in the field of flywheel energy storage was done in collaboration with Dr. Paul Allaire at the University of Virginia's Rotating Machines and Controls Laboratory. After a successful demonstration at the renowned Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the research continued at a University of Ottawa satellite lab in 2008. PDI's technologies were further developed and refined under the supervision of Dr. Riadh Habash in the University of Ottawa power lab in 2008, 2009 and 2010.

The technology, if it becomes a mainstay in the car and truck industry, will mean the end of fossil fuels as a major energy source for cars and trucks, and maybe trains and planes too.