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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters Transition to Fourth Density Harvesting Negative

    Thread: Harvesting Negative


    Aion (Offline)

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    #61
    03-08-2016, 11:58 AM
    Ra describes one of the methods used as being an attempt to energize the heart while also trying to stifle the third eye, so it could have been something like that. Or maybe you empathized with the entity. Or maybe it thought the best way to turn you more towards self-service is to try to suppress your heart. Hard to say.
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    #62
    03-08-2016, 12:57 PM (This post was last modified: 03-08-2016, 12:59 PM by darklight.)
    Quote:67.13 Questioner: I was wondering about the magical, shall I say, principles behind the fifth-density entity giving this service and his ability to give it. Why is he able to utilize these particular physical distortions from a philosophical or magical point of view?


    Ra:
    I am Ra. This entity is able to, shall we say, penetrate in time/space configuration the field of this particular entity. It has moved through the quarantine without any vehicle and thus has been more able to escape detection by the net of the Guardians.

    This is the great virtue of the magical working whereby consciousness is sent forth essentially without vehicle as light. The light would work instantly upon an untuned individual by suggestion, that is the stepping out in front of the traffic because the suggestion is that there is no traffic. This entity, as each in this group, is enough disciplined in the ways of love and light that it is not suggestible to any great extent. However, there is a predisposition of the physical complex which this entity is making maximal use of as regards the instrument, hoping for instance, by means of increasing dizziness, to cause the instrument to fall or to indeed walk in front of your traffic because of impaired vision.

    The magical principles, shall we say, may be loosely translated into your system of magic whereby symbols are used and traced and visualized in order to develop the power of the light.

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    .14 Questioner: Do you mean then that this fifth-density entity visualizes certain symbols? I am assuming that these symbols are of a nature where their continued use would have some power or charge. Am I correct?

    Ra:
    I am Ra. You are correct. In fifth density light is as visible a tool as your pencil’s writing.

    In the last couple of years, I've seen some visualisations of light in different colors. In strange patterns: they're moving and changing fast, but I do not understand what that is.

    This happens when I woke up at my sleep. Ik know this is not an imagination, this is very detailed and beautiful.

    Could that mean I'm a 5th density negative wanderer?  :-/
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    #63
    03-08-2016, 01:10 PM
    (03-08-2016, 12:57 PM)darklight Wrote: Could that mean I'm a 5th density negative wanderer?  :-/

    those numbers are minuscule, in my opinion.  And in terms of biases, the programming would be extremely strong.  Just like a positive wanderer is filled with millions of years of acceptance biases, a neggie has been building and cultivating their mindset for thousands of lifetimes.

    The Veil puts up a wall, sure, in terms of concrete memories.  But one is also not starting from scratch.

    Session 92.18 Wrote:Thusly the infant’s significant self, which is the harvest of biases of all previous incarnational experiences, offers to this infant biases with which to meet new experience.

    Positive will stay positive, negative will stay negative.  Only caveat is if you start a holy war, and wipe out a significant proportion of your population.  That kind of action can swing things more than a little BigSmile
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    #64
    03-08-2016, 03:25 PM
    Plenum, Do you think that a 5th or 6th density negative wanderer would need an other kind of 3D life experience than native negative polarized people?

    Especially 6th density wanderers, because their native density is that of unity. There is a huge difference in the spirit complex between wandering neggies and native negative people.
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    #65
    03-08-2016, 05:31 PM
    my thinking is that those rare negative Wanderers would choose mixed-harvest planets, rather than already negative planets.

    I think the potential for a 'rogue agent' on a mixed planet is much greater, and if full conscious awareness of who they truly are (penetrating the Veil), the rewards that much greater.

    They would be like the one-eyed man (indigo ray) in a world of blind people (those who don't really know the parameters of the game).

    Just like negatives provide a sharp (and beneficial) contrast for positives, positive people make a sharp contrast for negatives to further sharpen their blade of hatred and disgust at those who offer compassion to the weak.  Their motto?  only the strong survive, and the weak fall by the wayside. Only rely on yourself, never in another; they will only disappoint you.

    That said, the risk of losing one's throne in whatever density they are already in, and being born as a weak babe, at the mercy of others ... the potential payoffs are not too appealing, I would think.
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    03-08-2016, 06:54 PM
    The truth is that a 6th density negative entity has a big problem in the density of unity. They have to achieve a certain amount of love, this is very hard for them to achieve it. This, probably, is only possible if an entity incarnate on a 3D planet with a veil.

    My guess is that every 6th density negative entity must become a wanderer to achieve it, to unify with the opposite polarity in their native density.

    I believe this is also for the 6th density positive entities to, not only for themselves and the 3th density planetary population, but also to help their negative brothers and sisters, that's why the most wanderers are from the 6th density.
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    #67
    03-09-2016, 02:30 AM
    If you believe Ra, they state they do not know of any entity which has remained negative after moving fully in to 6D.

    I disagree that those who have ventured to one bias or the other are 'stuck' that way and indeed I believe any time an entity wanders they have the chance to make the choice again. Not only that but Ra says that the more one polarizes the easier it is to switch so the idea of becoming 'stuck' in one set of biases doesn't make sense to me.
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    03-09-2016, 07:24 AM
    At a certain point, a 6th density negative entiy will realize that not only the self is the Creator, but also other selves.

    Is the higher self a some kind of "merging point"? I mean where postive and negative beings lost their polarities? Like in the movie The Dark Crystal, they merge to one?
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    #69
    03-09-2016, 09:55 AM
    (03-09-2016, 07:24 AM)darklight Wrote: At a certain point, a 6th density negative entiy will realize that not only the self is the Creator, but also other selves.

    I think a 4D negative entity knows that.

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    03-09-2016, 01:08 PM
    They do, but they use that knowledge to gain the advantage over others.

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    03-09-2016, 01:23 PM
    (03-09-2016, 07:24 AM)darklight Wrote: At a certain point, a 6th density negative entiy will realize that not only the self is the Creator, but also other selves.

    Is the higher self a some kind of "merging point"? I mean where postive and negative beings lost their polarities? Like in the movie The Dark Crystal, they merge to one?

    According to Ra the higher self is a thought-form which is a 'gift' to the self given by the Totality which is the complete being of the individual. The 'merge' happens at some time in early 6D as the intensity of light increases and is due to conditions which do not support notions of separation, that is, the density of unity.

    I think there is a severe misunderstanding of what polarity actually is. People think we have 'negative' selves and 'positive' selves and that these things are consistent but I entirely disagree with that. There is actually only one self imo which fluctuates. Building up polarity is a matter of generating light/intelligent energy so that work can be done. This is necessary in the polarized densities because the only way to move up densities is to call to more light, thus increasing your own density and this can be done either to serve others or to serve yourself.

    The attempts to nullify this choice and indeed the 'clinging' to indifference reflects only a lack of bias and a lack of choice. Of course, many will justify it that they feel they do not have to make a choice because no choice is 'right or wrong', but that just means they are indecisive and it is safer and more comfortable to stay in indifference than to commit themselves to a path of service. Such individuals do not generate much polarity, in my opinion, despite often feeling they are 'above' polarized thought.

    There is a lot of negative glorification that has happened on this forum over the last couple years. Many attempts to justify negative behaviour as being 'just as positive' as positive motions in an attempt to cling to the sinkhole. Mostly seems to just be an excuse to not commit. Of course, since negativity is based on deception maybe some of these individuals are actively pursuing negative polarity and their attempts to justify it and equate it with positivity is just part of their polarizing manuevers to shift views more in their favor to give themselves more freedom without repercussions by inviting others to accept the influence of negativity over the self.
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