I want information referring to detoxification methods people here have used/heard of

[Tenet Nosce]

I know you're not saying it's all placebo, but I'm just sharing why it's kind of a pet peeve with me.

Share away! I was just wondering if there were ever studies done comparing ionized water to plain water. Sounds like it would be fairly easy to do... and then y'all could tell those skeptics what's up!

Yeah. What gets me is when they (the practitioners) accuse us of just wanting to make a buck, but then they refuse to even look at this because they don't want to lose business.

That's lame. I would be more than happy to put myself "out of business" in that way. To be honest, the biggest obstacle for me to try out the water with my patients is simply that I am not in the office full-time (<10 hours a week on average) and available to have the water ready and waiting for them. The second biggest obstacle is the general lack of surplus income generated by the practice.

For example, it might make more business sense to get the "2-Week Gut Rehab Kit" private labeled, and then roll the income generated from that into something else...

So you and I have a lot to be thankful for...at least our livelihood is something we enjoy and helps people!

Yes! I do have to remind myself at times because my personal experience is so far removed from anything that the average American would consider "normal." If there really are parallel timelines... I'm on one already!

You might try reframing...think of it as promoting services that help people, rather than promoting self.

Hmm, yeah that might help. Although the thing is... people nowadays sort of expect- even demand- some sort of gimmick. With me- there is no gimmick. You come into the office, and I give you two hours of my undivided attention. Somewhere along the way, I offer some education, a theory as to why you are experiencing symptoms, and make suggestions as to what you can do about it.

I mean- isn't that what a doctor is supposed to do?

That's the part I get stuck on... what exactly am I promoting, anyway? Why does it even need to be promoted? The results (or lack thereof) should speak for themselves, right?

But consumers aren't educated enough to know what to look for.

That's true. But it's even more basic than that. Some people just can't tell when they're being scammed. Others sort of demand to be scammed... it's like they enjoy it or something! They just go from one scam to the next, and show little interest in actually doing the work necessary to achieve the result they are looking for.

The flip side of that is... what is it about humanity that compels us to incessantly seek out ways to lie, cheat, scam, and defraud others? Is this normal for a 3D population? I've heard of more respectable behavior from baboons!

[Monica]

Share away! I was just wondering if there were ever studies done comparing ionized water to plain water. Sounds like it would be fairly easy to do... and then y'all could tell those skeptics what's up!

Yes, there are animal studies - did you not see the videos I sent you?

That's lame. I would be more than happy to put myself "out of business" in that way.

I knew there was a reason I respected you!

To be honest, the biggest obstacle for me to try out the water with my patients is simply that I am not in the office full-time (<10 hours a week on average) and available to have the water ready and waiting for them.

Ah, I see. One of my doctors has the water available on certain days and times only. People have to accommodate his staff if they want to get water.

The second biggest obstacle is the general lack of surplus income generated by the practice.

That can be easily offset by referrals. Put up a sign saying you're giving away this water, and that alone will attract new clients. Guaranteed! It has a heavy rep.

Yes! I do have to remind myself at times because my personal experience is so far removed from anything that the average American would consider "normal." If there really are parallel timelines... I'm on one already!

That's a good way of looking at it! Whenever I'm feeling bummed about life, I try to remind myself of those years spent in a tiny gray cube. That gets me feeling appreciative really quickly!

Hmm, yeah that might help. Although the thing is... people nowadays sort of expect- even demand- some sort of gimmick.

Some people. Not all people.

With me- there is no gimmick. You come into the office, and I give you two hours of my undivided attention. Somewhere along the way, I offer some education, a theory as to why you are experiencing symptoms, and make suggestions as to what you can do about it.

Sounds like you're offering a great service!

I mean- isn't that what a doctor is supposed to do?

That's the part I get stuck on... what exactly am I promoting, anyway? Why does it even need to be promoted? The results (or lack thereof) should speak for themselves, right?

You and I are in the same boat, in a way. Sometime I wonder why I don't have people standing in line to get this water, like they do at many other places. I seem to do better when I just put out the vibe and let the Universe send people my way.

Then again, we do still have to do our part. The challenge is in finding that sweet spot between promoting our service and allowing people to find us.

A seminar on referral marketing taught me "Our job isn't to convince anyone to use our product/service...our job is to find the people who want our product/service, but just don't know it yet."

That's true. But it's even more basic than that. Some people just can't tell when they're being scammed. Others sort of demand to be scammed... it's like they enjoy it or something! They just go from one scam to the next, and show little interest in actually doing the work necessary to achieve the result they are looking for.

That's why people like chem1 stay in business...they are predators...they take advantage of the gullible. They use big words - technobabble - and prey on those who are easily impressed. It's despicable but as long as there are people who want that sort of treatment, they will oblige!

The flip side of that is... what is it about humanity that compels us to incessantly seek out ways to lie, cheat, scam, and defraud others? Is this normal for a 3D population? I've heard of more respectable behavior from baboons!

That's a whole 'nother conversation!

[Ankh]

Thanks for the quotes, Ankh! I find it fascinating how our mind is drawn to different parts of quotes, depending upon our biases. For example, I might have underlined different sections of these:

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Well, the reason for me underlying the first sentence in the quotes I provided was because I wanted to underline what Ra put the most importance on. The rest of the underlying was as to trying to answer the questions of the thread starter.

But I share your fascination of how different minds are drawn to different parts of the quotes. If it would be just for my own reading and studying I would probably put emphasis on other parts than those I chose.

Interesting... didn't they suggest that acceptance is the key to positive polarization? I don't believe they discussed the spiritual value of rejection all that much...

Ra's suggestion, in my understanding, was to have an acceptance of the unwanted material as being part of the greater self, but that the more desired configuration is to be brought into the manifestation by this act of will and refinement of the mind/body/spirit complex. It can also be liken to what Ra said about other entities and offering of their service to you:

All are the Creator. There is one vast panoply of biases and distortions, colors and hues, in an unending pattern. In the case of those with whom you, as entities and as a group, are not in resonance, you wish them love, light, peace, joy, and bid them well. No more than this can you do for your portion of the Creator is as it is and your experience and offering of experience, to be valuable, needs be more and more a perfect representation of who you truly are. Could you, then, serve a negative entity by offering the instrument’s life? It is unlikely that you would find this a true service. Thus you may see in many cases the loving balance being achieved, the love being offered, light being sent, and the service of the service-to-self oriented entity gratefully acknowledged while being rejected as not being useful in your journey at this time. Thus you serve One Creator without paradox.

[Karl]

Okay water is good for detox, tracking.

Okay so how about ETS clinoptilite? What do you all know/experience with this?