12-29-2009, 12:06 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-29-2009, 12:10 AM by Peregrinus.)
Quote:The 4th density is one of your own choosing, so if you wish to fly, it will be so. If you wish to walk, it will be so. Do not worry; it will be anything other than boring!(12-27-2009, 02:39 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: Yes we are one. Think of each of us as a part of the prism of light which comes from the purest color of white light. Although there are but seven basic colors, across the prism of light are many trillions of minute variations on those seven basic colors. We are each one of those individual colors. We are therefore part of the original white light, for without it, we would not and could not exist.(12-28-2009, 07:59 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: ***Okay, so we're 'part' of it (like my children are 'part' of me) but also still individuals? I guess I'm trying to find out if I can still do things...fly, see and feel beauty, serve, contribute, sing, dance, play, etc. etc. The thought of just floating around in a love cloud sounds boring and even hellish to me because I'm not 'doing' anything. Of course, I realize have VERY limited perception and understanding here in 3D!
Quote:In modern quantum physics, we see that all matter as we know it is only actually made up about 5% mass, and the rest of the space is empty. So... ok yes we have mass, but very little. Yes, this is like a hologram, and these physical bodies are not us, for we are spirits, and through the densities we use different vehicles (bodies). These vehicles (bodies) are as important as your last car. It is important to take care of them, but when the time comes for a newer one because the old one wore out, it is simply time for a new one.(12-27-2009, 02:39 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: This premise/theory is closest to "reality". Yes, this is an illusion, designed for us to learn/experience as to experience the darkness and the light in such a manner that we will come to a decision.(12-28-2009, 07:59 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: *** Okay, by "illusion", do you mean to say that this flesh and this body I have is not real at all? Like a hologram or something? Or a figment of somebody's imagination? It sure feels real. Are you saying that the air I breathe, the flowers I smell, the children I raise, etc., are all just 'nothing'? I still don't understand "illusion"? Is it a metaphor or literal? *sniff*
Quote:The third density is the shortest of all densities at 75,000 years, and is, compared to the rest, very intense. The first and second combined may take a few billion years. The 4th density only takes 7.5 million years, the 5th 75 million years, and then the 6th takes close to three billion years. This is, of course, assuming the most harmonious path is taken.(12-27-2009, 02:39 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: This decision is which path we desire to take when we move forward through the next three densities. This is an important decision, because the next three densities take billions of years to complete.(12-28-2009, 07:59 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: *** BBBBBBBB-BBBBB-B-I-L-L-I-O-N-S???!!! geeez, I hope they're better places than this 3D malarkey! And do you mean 'each' density takes billions, or all of them combined?
Quote:Would the school student, if they were to simply play and enjoy the time in school with their friends, and that knew they would graduate if they did no work, do any work? We are students here in this density and we are here to do work. If we understood that we are unity and loved beyond doubt, we would not strive to do the work. This is so because of an evolution of the process. Previous Logos did not use the veil, and thus the 3rd density took much much much longer than it does with the veil.(12-27-2009, 02:39 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: Though you may not understand it, and the illusion is designed so you do not,(12-28-2009, 07:59 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: *** What purpose is served in my not being able to understand anything?
Quote:I do not and cannot speak for God, as my understanding is limited. Even our elder brothers do not know all. We are each only of the knowledge of our own octave, but are aware of other octaves, the infinity of creation.(12-27-2009, 02:39 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: In order to understand ourself, this is only part 3 of one level of infinite levels.(12-28-2009, 07:59 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: *** Infinite ...infinite?? Whoooah... wowowow.... As in infinite, as in never ending? Is this another way of saying that God will never fully understand itself? Is this because God is ever 'expanding' or something?
Quote:This illusion is built in space time, whereby space has three dimensions and time has a single linear dimension. Though time appears to be flowing like a river, this is an illusion. Outside of the illusion is time/space, whereby time has 3 dimensions and space is linear. Movement is thought based, and time can be navigated just as we navigate this world we think we inhabit. In this manner, one can travel forward or backward or sideways in time, seeing the future, past, and lateral time lines as one desires, but only at one particular point in space. I know it sounds paradoxical, but all of infinity can take but a split second, just as a split second is all of eternity.(12-27-2009, 02:39 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: When you blinked just now, it took more time than this entire lifetime that you think you are living, but are not.(12-28-2009, 07:59 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: *** Can you explain what you mean by this? Why did it take that long? Why did I perceive it as a split second? And what do you mean I'm not living this life that I think I'm living?
Quote:Rest assured you will not only have more things to do, but you may enjoy them far more immensely than what you can imagine. Consider if you will that some day you might be a sun that provides love and light for your billions of children, or that you may in time become a Logos, giving birth to and providing love and light for trillions of stars that give birth to billions of children. The possibilities are endless...(12-27-2009, 02:39 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: When you say you do not desire to become one with God again, you only say so because you see as if with blinders on.(12-28-2009, 07:59 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: *** Actually, I desire to become "one" again with God, but only in the sense that I want to join God in oneness of thought and purpose. Like my thoughts and purposes mirror God's thoughts and purposes. In other words, I become "Godly"...? But if becoming one means melting into a pot full of spirits and floating around blissfully for eternity, that sounds like the pits.
Quote:There will always be interaction, no matter what your perception of it is at this point in this illusion. You will never be mindless.(12-27-2009, 02:39 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: If you could see the whole picture, you would see that there is more beauty in what you do not see, for what you see is not real, and the reality is not seeing, but experiencing. In experiencing, we remove distortion from ourselves(12-28-2009, 07:59 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: ***Doesn't Ra define 'distortion' as anything that suggests duality or individuality? And experiencing...this is what I WANT. That is why I fear going into a God melting pot. I feel like I'll just 'feel' stuff...and not experience it. I would liken it to being able to read about a vacation to Hawaii, and even look at pictures, compared to being able to really go to Hawaii. And I love to interact with others. Perhaps I'm not understand 'oneness', but I always pictured 'oneness' in this mode of thinking (LOO or ACIM) as being literally 'one' entity with no individuality whatsoever, therefore I have nobody to interact with.
Quote:No forgiveness required. I explained awakening in your other thread. If I may give a brief outline of the densities though a single octave,specifically the one in which we are in.(12-27-2009, 02:39 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: for in this illusion, the purpose is not to learn about love. Our purpose is to make a choice.(12-28-2009, 07:59 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: *** and others say that our purpose is to remember who we are. And others say that we are here to wake up. And others say other things. I am so confused. Forgive me!
1) Earth wind fire water
2) Living matter and life, bacteria, viruis, plants, trees, animals.
3) Conscious self aware entities - make the choice to sts or stos
4) Gaining love - of self or of other-selves - beginning of social complex
5) Gaining light (wisdom) of self or other-selves - refining of social complex
6) Combining love and light - in which sts change polarity and becomes stos
7) Seeking Oneness with the One Creator
Quote:Understood(12-27-2009, 02:39 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: Although generally correct, I must note that you seem to have a difficult time being able to break free from the understanding that this "physical" self is real, for you like to describe your understandings as in comparability towards the physical self.(12-28-2009, 07:59 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: *** Actually, I dropped that belief about seven years ago. What I mean is, I used to (as a very staunch Mormon) believe that this body was going to last for eternity. Sure, it would die and rot at some point, but then God would resurrect this SAME body and I'd have it for all eternity, in a perfect form of course. But it'd still be flesh...but not have blood (a "Godly" liquid would flow through it, I was taught). I used the examples pertaining to bodies, etc., because I couldn't think of anything else to use that would best describe what I was trying to portray. ;o)
Quote:You don't actually see your children, or you, as you each and one truly are. You only see the physical manifestation of such in bipedal ape bodies. The spirit is the true form, and someday you WILL see them as they truly are, for love can transverse time and space, and will. If your children were born after 16 Aug, 1987, it is perhaps they that will be waiting for you.(12-27-2009, 02:39 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: The physical self in this illusion is as important to our experience as your car is to you. It is a mode of transportation, a means to move from point a to b.(12-28-2009, 07:59 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: So after all this 3D is said and done, I couldn't care less about the body that housed "Kristy"?....or even "Kristy" for that matter? One thing that makes me sad about this is that I like being Kristy (except for my perceived faults, of course) and most especially because I love my children...who they are, what they look like, their personalities, their soft cheeks and sweet kisses, etc. The thought of never seeing "them" again as who they "are"....(((weep weep weep)))
Quote:When you connect, you will know. This is unexplainable.(12-27-2009, 02:39 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: In order to understand it, you must turn inward, for inside of you are ALL the answers.(12-28-2009, 07:59 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: *What do you mean by 'inside' me? Can this 'inside' be acquired via meditation? I meditate now (didn't start very long ago) but I still feel/learn nothing to my knowledge. How long does it take before we connect?
(12-27-2009, 02:39 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: When your current incarnate experience is finished, you will make the choice of what you desire to do. No one or thing forces you to do anything you do not wish to do.
(12-28-2009, 07:59 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: *** Well, my personal choice would be to never, ever, ever, ever (say that a trillion times) come to 3D life again (unless I came as an angel or an ascended master to help out the folks here or elsewhere). I feel like I've absolutely had enough of it after this incarnation. So, from what I've read, we have to qualify through STO. What if I didn't do either STO or STS, but was just stagnant? How does choice fit into things when we have to qualify for something? What if you decided at the last minute (literally) that you want to go to 4D but hadn't qualified?There are other threads which detail the requirments for ascension, thus I will not go into it here.
Quote:Fear is a choice that you make. Again, there are other threads which detail this in more detail, so I shall leave it to you to seek those out.(12-27-2009, 02:39 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: Relax, play with your children, spend time smelling the flowers, doing things you enjoy. Love life.(12-28-2009, 07:59 PM)kristy1111 Wrote: I definitely do that, but lately I've been doing it more like someone who has a fatal disease. I find myself fearing "losing" my husband and children at graduation time, so I feel like a dying person who only has so much time before they die.