03-09-2012, 07:35 PM
(03-09-2012, 06:22 PM)ShinAr Wrote:(03-09-2012, 06:16 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: I cannot imagine not protecting someone who cannot protect themselves, or my dearest loved ones, or myself in any situation which may cause them suffering. But I am okay with this.
I cannot accept the love of the STS entity through enslavement because that would ultimately inhibit my own choice to share love myself. ... I don't view the attempt at enslavement as an attack, but rather as an offering of love as the STS entity understands it, ...
Austin, think in terms of extremity. You are drawing lines to allow yourself to condone STS. What if the STS is wanting to rape you instead of enslave you? Would you still view that as an offering of love? What if they wanted to murder your child? Would you be okay with that? There is an extremity to the path you speak of that you refuse to acknowledge.
You are deluding yourself by refusing to delve deeper into the meaning of the path you follow.
(03-09-2012, 06:36 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: It is a given that rape, and things that one might consider worse, are included in the broad label of enslavement. I have considered much more than you assume, and I am not responsible for your inability to understand my disposition.
Your posts are rife with assumption and condescension. I am not deluding myself...I witness, and on some accounts experience, the extremities of suffering in our illusion just as anyone else does. You don't know what I understand or what I consider. I'm finding it hard not to be insulted by the insinuation that rape specifically is something I had not even considered...you don't know what sort of experience I have with such an action. It is an extremely false assumption.
I am not ignoring anything and I am not deluding myself. Having to continually explain this is tiring and I find the benefit does not make up for the time wasted. I won't reply to any more posts from you which flagrantly assume that I have not experienced, considered, or understood the depth of any given topic. The only reason I replied to this one is because for some reason you specifically mention rape, and I feel I should suggest that you probably shouldn't assume what sort of experience someone has had with such a topic.
There is no need to be offended when someone responds to your statements with questions about why you think the way you do based upon that which you have to say.
It is assumed that when you make a statement on a forum that are willing to discuss what you say with others.
When you say something like, "you are okay with not having to defend your loved ones from attack, because you believe that the attackers have the right to believe that their attack is a thing of beauty", than you should not be surprside or offended if someone questions your reasoning as they try to understand you.
When I respond by telling you how I feel about what you say, that is my reaction to your statements. I am not being insulting nor do I mean to be insulting. So I apologize if you have taken it that way. But how do you suggest that I tell you that I believe you are deluding yourself, without actually saying that?
It is reasonable for you to be emotionally affected by my reactions and words, but it is not necessary to take offense unless I say something that is deliberately insulting. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty.