(08-24-2009, 12:46 AM)Quantum Wrote: If to the converse a material is passed, and this were to also imply that the material was in keeping with Confederation principles and philosophy, presumably meaning that only a certain amount of distortion were allowed to be "peppered" in the material, but that it would never "pass" were it to be so distorted so much as to create an STS manual instead, this then would be more in keeping with "passed" as a definition.
Where does that leave the Bible? Did the Bible 'pass?' Portions of it could arguably be considered an STS manual, while other portions do, according to Ra, contain elements of the Law of One. So is it an STS manual peppered with STO, or vice versa? Or simply mixed polarity that didn't pass? We know that there was a huge Yahweh scandal, so it's obvious how so much of it got distorted. Yet, Ra never (to my knowledge) explicitly commented on whether it had 'passed' or not, or just how distorted it actually ended up.
(08-24-2009, 12:46 AM)Quantum Wrote: I must believe if Ra commented on the material some two hundred years after the fact, as they did, and by sharing that it "passed" the Confederation, as they also did, then they might have additionally commented by suggesting that it were as severely distorted, if it were.
Why must you believe that? Where is the precedent? Which other works has Ra declared 'severely distorted?'
(08-24-2009, 12:46 AM)Quantum Wrote: This principle of "passing" after the fact by a review, by simple logic might indeed apply to a material being understood as having "passed", unless indeed all is in fact sadly left to chance after the fact by letting the chips fall where they may. This would however seem to be entirely counter-productive to the entire process of attempting to teach. Working through the the hypothetical principle of "passed" to mean that the Confederation takes an active process all the way through the act, it then stands to reason to hope that there may also be an approval mechanism after the fact as well to create a passing ( i.e., a review as it were) as well as before the fact (i.e. finding a suitable mission of a suitable material and then a suitable channel which said material is transmitted to).
Respectfully, I think you are making a lot of assumptions here. Firstly, Ra does not attempt to merely 'teach' but to teach/learn. Secondly, if the goal was to have all such attempts have all wrinkles (distortions) ironed out beforehand, then what would be the purpose of the veil? Why not just rend the veil and be done with it? Thirdly, I don't think the Confederation entities have nearly as much to do with the purity of the info as the recipient of said info. In other words, the Law of One ended up being remarkably (relatively) free from distortions not because of any review process, but simply and solely because of the integrity of the channel/questioner/facilitator team (our dear Carla, Don and Jim). Had they been less 'conscientious' (as Ra referred to them), there surely would have been more distortions. This does not negate the purity of the info or the integrity of the Confederation entity providing the info. Conversely, if, for example, the Oahspe channel was perhaps less conscientious, or, for whatever reason, more prone to coloration of the channeled info, would the Confederation source have denied the contact because the channel failed to reach a certain threshold of required clarity? I think not. I think Confederation entities have answered the call of many countless entities over millennia, with varying degrees of clarity/distortion, but were simply delighted to find the L/L team so configured, thus allowing a communication more complete and free from distortion than any other ever previously attempted. But this does not negate the value of previous contacts, which were undoubtedly useful to those people at that particular time in their evolution. They wouldn't have been ready for more advanced knowledge anyway, just as a child isn't ready for calculus. That Ra finally found some calculus students does not in any way minimize or demean the many arithmetic students previously taught.
(08-24-2009, 12:46 AM)Quantum Wrote: Following the logic that the teaching is paramount and as such that so too is the more correct 'transcription' of it, no teaching so distorted in transcription would be allowed to pass were it so severely distorted so as to "teach falsely. "Utilizing this logic further in this stream of consciousness, the assumption then is that indeed only "less distorted" information 'transcribed' is allowed to pass, verses "more distorted" information being transcribed allowed to pass, such that there is then a final review or opinion as given by Ra and the Confederation that it is a good work.
Again I disagree with your initial premise. On what basis do you think that the teaching is paramount? My understanding is that service, ie. assistance in utilizing catalyst for the purpose of polarizing, is what's paramount. We already have teaching available to us when we leave 3D, in between lifetimes. I don't think that is the ultimate purpose of Confederation contacts. Even when Ra walked the Earth in Egypt, they didn't write a book with their refined, clarified teachings! And they certainly could have easily done that, no? Rather, they offered clues, a trail of breadcrumbs, tools for initiation, so that we might find our own way, as 3D reality was designed.
(08-24-2009, 12:46 AM)Quantum Wrote: In response to your above assumption then 3D, perhaps an information in question that has been passed is in fact not so much distorted in transcription as much as it is in interpretation as a result of it in fact being powerful, and thus as useful for either purpose, STO or STS included, i.e case in point most religious works, i.e. the Bible, The Koran, the Upanishads etc. To continue as a case in point, perhaps no STO "passed" "transmission" or "transcription" has ever been so distorted that it ended up as a specific STS teaching, but that indeed a said STO teaching was purposefully bent so as to be so distorted as resulting in a STS teaching. In other words, the material passed and "more correctly transcribed" by said scribe is always more STO oriented, but that the activities and interpretations may be purposefully utilized as bent for STS purposes. In other words, "Good STO teachers don't teach badly,as much as willingly bad sts students learn to utilize good STO teachings excellently for bad STS purposes".
I understand your point, but that presupposes that knowledge is inherently good (STO) or bad (STS). I contend that knowledge cannot be so easily categorized, but is a dynamic interplay of archetypal forces. For example, the Bible is not an STS or STO teaching, but an oracle, a depiction of the Archetypes, like the Tarot. (Hence, devotees may open it at random and receive the guidance they seek, much as a Priestess might choose significant cards in a Tarot spread.) Is the Devil, whether the literal character depicted in the Bible or the symbol in the Tarot, an indicator that the respective oracle is STS? No, it's only a character in the play. It is the focus on and attunement to that particular energy that becomes STS or STO. The teaching just describes the stage upon which the archetypal characters interact; what determines the polarity is our CHOICE.