A few interesting pieces:
This also supports the "electrical" body being that of the energy centers rather than of the chemical reactions of the body. I see this possibly being a control thing. If we gain dexterity with our brain similar to what we have in our fingers in 4D, this would make sense. Our brain would no longer work as a soup of chemicals, but instead as a tool of which we have complete control.
Maybe it was I who said Ra said it instead of Q'uo.... i get mixed up sometimes. Sorry!
Again, I am going to argue that our transition to 4D will not include the "human" idea of death. It will be a death of an era and a death in our livestyles/worldviews, but it will not be a "Oh God We're all gonnna diiiieeeee!" way, imo. I feel these quotes are clues to this conclusion, although they also very nearly throw a stick in my spokes at the same time.
The first quote explains that our formed body that is situated for life is 2D. When he claims that it rarely goes on to live, I believe Ra means it in a mindless, savage way of life. Now, looking at the third sphere description, I think the last sentence contains all the context. I think what Ra is speaking on in terms of the "physical illusion" is all of the actual, physical things that will become unnecessary once 4D comes into reality. I think Ra is speaking of the aftermath of 4D: money systems breaking down, multi-billion dollar industries being shattered, etc. If we no longer rely on the physical world in the way we did before, we would have to abandon all the things we have put our entire incarnative lives into. I see this as the reason for the allowance of a transition period; this may take a bit of time for some to accept.
In the second quote, I feel Ra expounds on this.
I think Ra is speaking of the change in our culture/worldview after hitting 4D rather than a physical destruction of the world. It's more that we're gonna have all this bullshit we just don't need! Entire industries will fall, houses full of crap tailored to physical comfort/mindlessness, all these things... I believe it might mean that these things will become of no value to us, thereby going out of activation along with the yellow sphere. It will "die", so to say as they're use and relevance are ripped away by 4D...
I do think we will all still die. I'm just not sure we're going to do so in some crazy "we all drop dead" moment. I also don't think it will be done in extreme violence. I could be wrong, but a nagging feeling inside me says its not that way....
(full disclosure: My wife and I have a baby on the way, so I may be a little biased towards the current distortions
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I wonder if rather than being channeled entities, they are the 4d entities that are already working on our plane, as Ra suggests was already happening.
When they are "in their own world", maybe they are really in their 4D bodies, helping those around them in ways we cannot measure or understand. Sometimes I wonder if those who have it worst on the autistic spectrum are those being forced to live the most 3D of lives, therefore causing great distress to them. It might also explain the massive jump in autistic births over the last 30-40 years (up to 1 in 1000 families at this point, I believe).
I recently read a book that kinda spoke on this subject but was not aware of the Law of One in any way. It was called "The Horse Boy". About a horse trainer who had a severely autistic son, and one day found that the boy responded to the world much better when he was around animals rather than human situations. He ended up quitting his job and taking his son to a shamanistic tribe in the Andes mountains in Peru, where they work with horses as a sort of spiritual sanctuary. After a bunch of time there, his son came back extremely well adjusted, and the father concluded that his son had spiritual needs that were not being met by the things they were doing for him before. He needed a connection that the animals were able to give him that people could rarely replicate for him, which I think is interesting and has kicked up my interest on this subject. The idea in a nutshell is that autistic people have different or more pronounced spiritual needs, which can be very much ignored in the world of 3D therapy.
I think its just amazing that autistic children were abandoned less than 100 years ago by parents, yet at this point we have discovered savants and many geneticists are trumpeting them as the next evolution of human being. Funny how it changes over the years....
Quote:43.16 Questioner: The physical vehicle that is used in fourth-density space/time is, I am assuming, quite similar to the one that is now used in third density. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. The chemical elements used are not the same. However, the appearance is similar.
This also supports the "electrical" body being that of the energy centers rather than of the chemical reactions of the body. I see this possibly being a control thing. If we gain dexterity with our brain similar to what we have in our fingers in 4D, this would make sense. Our brain would no longer work as a soup of chemicals, but instead as a tool of which we have complete control.
Maybe it was I who said Ra said it instead of Q'uo.... i get mixed up sometimes. Sorry!
Quote:48.8 The red-ray body is your chemical body. However, it is not the body which you have as clothing in the physical. It is the unconstructed material of the body, the elemental body without form. This basic unformed material body is important to understand for there are healings which may be carried out by the simple understanding of the elements present in the physical vehicle.
The orange-ray body is the physical body complex. This body complex is still not the body you inhabit but rather the body formed without self-awareness, the body in the womb before the spirit/mind complex enters. This body may live without the inhabitation of the mind and spirit complexes. However, it seldom does so.
The yellow-ray body is your physical vehicle which you know of at this time and in which you experience catalyst. This body has the mind/body/spirit characteristics and is equal to the physical illusion, as you have called it.
The green-ray body is that body which may be seen in séance when what you call ectoplasm is furnished. This is a lighter body packed more densely with life. You may call this the astral body following some other teachings. Others have called this same body the etheric body. However, this is not correct in the sense that the etheric body is that body of gateway wherein intelligent energy is able to mold the mind/body/spirit complex.
Again, I am going to argue that our transition to 4D will not include the "human" idea of death. It will be a death of an era and a death in our livestyles/worldviews, but it will not be a "Oh God We're all gonnna diiiieeeee!" way, imo. I feel these quotes are clues to this conclusion, although they also very nearly throw a stick in my spokes at the same time.
The first quote explains that our formed body that is situated for life is 2D. When he claims that it rarely goes on to live, I believe Ra means it in a mindless, savage way of life. Now, looking at the third sphere description, I think the last sentence contains all the context. I think what Ra is speaking on in terms of the "physical illusion" is all of the actual, physical things that will become unnecessary once 4D comes into reality. I think Ra is speaking of the aftermath of 4D: money systems breaking down, multi-billion dollar industries being shattered, etc. If we no longer rely on the physical world in the way we did before, we would have to abandon all the things we have put our entire incarnative lives into. I see this as the reason for the allowance of a transition period; this may take a bit of time for some to accept.
In the second quote, I feel Ra expounds on this.
Quote:When the third-density goes out of activation and into potentiation that will leave us with a planet that is first, second, and fourth-density. At that time there will be no activated third-density vibrations on this planet. Am I correct in assuming that all third-density vibrations on this planet now are those vibrations that compose the bodily complexes of entities such as we are; that that is the sum total of third-density vibrations on this planet at this time?
Ra: I am Ra. (blah blah blah instrument stuff).
To answer your query, this is incorrect only in that in addition to the mind/body/spirit complexes of third-density there are the artifacts, thought-forms, and feelings which these co-Creators have produced. This is third-density.
I think Ra is speaking of the change in our culture/worldview after hitting 4D rather than a physical destruction of the world. It's more that we're gonna have all this bullshit we just don't need! Entire industries will fall, houses full of crap tailored to physical comfort/mindlessness, all these things... I believe it might mean that these things will become of no value to us, thereby going out of activation along with the yellow sphere. It will "die", so to say as they're use and relevance are ripped away by 4D...
I do think we will all still die. I'm just not sure we're going to do so in some crazy "we all drop dead" moment. I also don't think it will be done in extreme violence. I could be wrong, but a nagging feeling inside me says its not that way....
(full disclosure: My wife and I have a baby on the way, so I may be a little biased towards the current distortions
)(03-13-2011, 10:39 AM)Ocean Wrote: well put zenmaster.
i also read that about autism brains. i think it was mentioned by the beacons. if you talk true silent autistics who fully live in their own world, i dunno if they are in pain, some sources seem to think they're ok, while others don't. these are all channeled entities i trust. so i think the truth lies in the middle, or how you look at it. what do we know really? i know i've had difficulty as have most of us. so probably do they.
I wonder if rather than being channeled entities, they are the 4d entities that are already working on our plane, as Ra suggests was already happening.
When they are "in their own world", maybe they are really in their 4D bodies, helping those around them in ways we cannot measure or understand. Sometimes I wonder if those who have it worst on the autistic spectrum are those being forced to live the most 3D of lives, therefore causing great distress to them. It might also explain the massive jump in autistic births over the last 30-40 years (up to 1 in 1000 families at this point, I believe).
I recently read a book that kinda spoke on this subject but was not aware of the Law of One in any way. It was called "The Horse Boy". About a horse trainer who had a severely autistic son, and one day found that the boy responded to the world much better when he was around animals rather than human situations. He ended up quitting his job and taking his son to a shamanistic tribe in the Andes mountains in Peru, where they work with horses as a sort of spiritual sanctuary. After a bunch of time there, his son came back extremely well adjusted, and the father concluded that his son had spiritual needs that were not being met by the things they were doing for him before. He needed a connection that the animals were able to give him that people could rarely replicate for him, which I think is interesting and has kicked up my interest on this subject. The idea in a nutshell is that autistic people have different or more pronounced spiritual needs, which can be very much ignored in the world of 3D therapy.
I think its just amazing that autistic children were abandoned less than 100 years ago by parents, yet at this point we have discovered savants and many geneticists are trumpeting them as the next evolution of human being. Funny how it changes over the years....