03-13-2011, 07:59 AM
[quote='3DMonkey' pid='31865' dateline='1299982922']
[quote='unity100' pid='31860' dateline='1299973657']
curious part is, even those people who speak of being 'one' or 'i am' or 'everything' seem to exhibit that resistance.
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What sort of exhibited displays do you refer to?[/quote]
whenever the possibility of death is talked, they start to avoid the possibility, trying to formulate ways around the prospect via a lot of means. it can go to the extent of believing everyone will instantly turn into great balls of light and so on. intellectually, and in the same discussion where they propose that 'i am' or something.
im talking about spiritually inclined people here.
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I have a comment about displays by "those people" who exhibit resistance within a close brush with death. I ask for clarity before I assume we are thinking of the same exhibited displays.
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i dont think so. i was meaning the spiritual talk that happens here and there.
[quote='Ocean' pid='31869' dateline='1299984513']
i came here via Wilcock, i have not read all of the Ra material, i'm doing it on my own time frame, as my concentration and intuition allows.
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[quote='Ens Entium' pid='31872' dateline='1299990555']
I'm a slow reader and i managed to get to about the 65th session by then. So it goes more quickly than you might think. It's a wonderful thing to get into Smile[/quote]
then you should print out all the books that l/l provides through their libraries as pdf, and then read them in a calm, silent place alone.
or you can get the books, which will probably be cheaper in regard to printer cartridge and paper. but, printing the pdfs allows you to print the books as big as you can, for legibility.
[quote='Ens Entium' pid='31872' dateline='1299990555']
Incidentally, the discussion we've been having on this thread has been a reminder that you will have a physical body in addition to the wonderful electrical body that you will, mainly, operate and experience from. In fact, Ra mentions that taking time to tend to the body (eat) is catalyst in 4d as it tests patience, as one is taking time away from more, apparently, 'non-trivial' pursuits. So, hehe, looks like you're already there in that respect.
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3-4d bodies seem to be in one package. there are no seperate 4d bodies. the body in question is able to live in 3d environment, and do not get disrupted electrically when facing 4d environment or 4d phenomenon.
[quote][quote='hogey11' pid='31885' dateline='1300005449']
There are two major things that come into play here, imo. First, Ra seems to be fairly sure when the channelings happened that the world would suffer some sort of cataclysm at harvest. Ra was not confident that we would see a majority harvest, and saw the earth disposing of us before the start of 4D with some sort of catastrophe. From my readings of this board, I have since seen the readings from Q'uo, stating that due to the large number of wanderers incarnating over the last 30 years, the earth's cataclysm had been averted, and instead we would suffer a few small ones instead.[/quote]
a sudden axis shift or similar that would decimate entire population may have been averted, and it seems so. but that doesnt mean that the world as we know it wont get shattered. we are in last tzolkin of mayan calendar, and in the 6 months ahead we may see a lot of stuff like the japan case that will change the world fundamentally - not only physically, but socially too.
and in another sidenote, this may be a necessity for the newly forming 4d understanding and groups to be able to live with their own philosophy and rules instead of the established hierarchical one that is on this planet.
[quote='unity100' pid='31860' dateline='1299973657']
curious part is, even those people who speak of being 'one' or 'i am' or 'everything' seem to exhibit that resistance.
[/quote]
What sort of exhibited displays do you refer to?[/quote]
whenever the possibility of death is talked, they start to avoid the possibility, trying to formulate ways around the prospect via a lot of means. it can go to the extent of believing everyone will instantly turn into great balls of light and so on. intellectually, and in the same discussion where they propose that 'i am' or something.
im talking about spiritually inclined people here.
[quote]
I have a comment about displays by "those people" who exhibit resistance within a close brush with death. I ask for clarity before I assume we are thinking of the same exhibited displays.
[/quote]
i dont think so. i was meaning the spiritual talk that happens here and there.
[quote='Ocean' pid='31869' dateline='1299984513']
i came here via Wilcock, i have not read all of the Ra material, i'm doing it on my own time frame, as my concentration and intuition allows.
[/quote]
[quote='Ens Entium' pid='31872' dateline='1299990555']
I'm a slow reader and i managed to get to about the 65th session by then. So it goes more quickly than you might think. It's a wonderful thing to get into Smile[/quote]
then you should print out all the books that l/l provides through their libraries as pdf, and then read them in a calm, silent place alone.
or you can get the books, which will probably be cheaper in regard to printer cartridge and paper. but, printing the pdfs allows you to print the books as big as you can, for legibility.
[quote='Ens Entium' pid='31872' dateline='1299990555']
Incidentally, the discussion we've been having on this thread has been a reminder that you will have a physical body in addition to the wonderful electrical body that you will, mainly, operate and experience from. In fact, Ra mentions that taking time to tend to the body (eat) is catalyst in 4d as it tests patience, as one is taking time away from more, apparently, 'non-trivial' pursuits. So, hehe, looks like you're already there in that respect.
[/quote]
3-4d bodies seem to be in one package. there are no seperate 4d bodies. the body in question is able to live in 3d environment, and do not get disrupted electrically when facing 4d environment or 4d phenomenon.
[quote][quote='hogey11' pid='31885' dateline='1300005449']
There are two major things that come into play here, imo. First, Ra seems to be fairly sure when the channelings happened that the world would suffer some sort of cataclysm at harvest. Ra was not confident that we would see a majority harvest, and saw the earth disposing of us before the start of 4D with some sort of catastrophe. From my readings of this board, I have since seen the readings from Q'uo, stating that due to the large number of wanderers incarnating over the last 30 years, the earth's cataclysm had been averted, and instead we would suffer a few small ones instead.[/quote]
a sudden axis shift or similar that would decimate entire population may have been averted, and it seems so. but that doesnt mean that the world as we know it wont get shattered. we are in last tzolkin of mayan calendar, and in the 6 months ahead we may see a lot of stuff like the japan case that will change the world fundamentally - not only physically, but socially too.
and in another sidenote, this may be a necessity for the newly forming 4d understanding and groups to be able to live with their own philosophy and rules instead of the established hierarchical one that is on this planet.