12-20-2021, 07:08 PM
(12-20-2021, 04:26 PM)Scionagon Wrote: Personally, I think it's based on intention. If you're capable of killing yourself with absolutely no regrets, and are able to free yourself from all worldly guilts, desires, and attachments, then I imagine the transition would go as smoothly as "regular" death. Although, I'd say that at least 99% of suicides are regretful. If you've ever read any stories about suicide survivors, you'll know that the instant they do it, they'll immediately change their mind because they realize just how transient their "problem" really was.
But, I don't see a reason to "punish" anybody who's lived such a virtuous life, especially at such an old age when there's little left to be taught/learned-from (especially with that horrific condition, which scares me as well). If you didn't know, Don Elkins himself (the questioner in the Law of One books) commit suicide not long after the books were published. I don't see him needing to repeat 3-dimensionality based on his absurd level of knowledge, and I'm sure your grandfather won't need to either.
https://www.lawofone.info/Epilogue
As for your nan, well, mental illness is something that confuses me too. I personally believe that some people may choose to have certain mental disabilities before their incarnation, in order to act as a sort of catalyst for other people (and themselves) towards unconditional love. That, and some people are being negatively/positively influenced by the coming changes to this world.
https://www.lawofone.info/s/40#15
There's not much to answer without personal beliefs, because I've never seen a definitive answer to the suicide question. But either way, I'm sure that both of them are right where they feel they belong, just like the rest of us.
Hi Scionagon,
Your thoughts that remaining detached while leaving the physical body would make the transition smooth are very appropriate, as my grandad practiced Buddhism and remained detached from worldly issues. He was very intent on taking his life, not to be too dark but he hung himself and the first time he tried the rope snapped, he then found another more stronger rope and made do this time round. This was typical of his personality in a light-hearted humorous way. He was always sure of himself whenever he made a decision and always gave it much thought.
I was aware of Don's situation and figured the same as you, he had clearly had enough and served with the finest of his abilities, what more was there to do. These beings deserve to depart of their own free will but of course the creators laws are what goes so I wanted to dive deeper into people's thoughts on the subject.
Mental illness is truly problematic, I'm sure my nan didn't plan her suicide as catalyst, but the mental illness she suffered from was great catalyst for my mother.
As you say, both of my grandparents are right where they belong ultimately!