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    LeiwoUnion (Offline)

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    03-25-2021, 09:11 AM (This post was last modified: 03-25-2021, 09:11 AM by LeiwoUnion.)
    (03-24-2021, 06:17 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: Faith is a curse. Or, it is an easy way out, without having to do any work to improve yourself Spiritually. Religions are full of Faith, with little advancement. The simple this and that, and Faith will carry me through to the end. All the work is, (supposedly), done for you. The delusion. As long as I follow the rules, (and lay low), then I will get everything I want in Heaven. Visions of little old Spanish ladies kissing plastic babies in cardboard boxes, (I have seen it). Blind Faith. No thank you. I prefer to do the work, and have the satisfaction that I have done something to improve my life. I also had friends who believed in Faith, and they were the biggest hypocrites in their Religion. Meanwhile condemning others for thinking differently than them. Faith is a weakness. I have no Faith in Zen. What is that supposed to mean? Zen only works when you use it. If I sat back and said, I believed in Zen, and so I will let it do the work for me, then Zen becomes useless. There would be no point in having Zen. If anybody wants to grow Spiritually, then they have to do the work themselves. There is no other answer. It is work, or nothing. I have little sympathy for people who are too lazy to work and find their own Spiritual Realization. The God(s) never promised it would be easy, and you were responsible for your own actions. I repeat, Faith is a curse.

    In my mind there is also a productive kind of faith that I utilize myself at least. My life has become a stream of synchronicities that guide my perception to the right thought patterns which are not apparent to my conscious mind. I call this my 'deep intuition' in contrast to my 'surface intuition' which speaks directly to my conscious mind as ideas and such. The thing is that the deep intuition is not 'always on', so to speak, and it can take a while for these synchronicities to occur. It certainly requires faith in my part to trust that I'm not, shall I say, 'left on the lurch', as (my) 3D mind is fond of creating all kinds of uncertainties and untrustful thought patterns. Faith action can then be utilized to dismiss these thoughts as unhelpful and the mind returns to focus with uncertainties dispelled.

    In my opinion it is rather narrow minded or even dogmatic to call faith a curse. I'm sure even you, Ming, utilize faith in your own work and doings. Faith is the lens that brings one's will into focus. We cannot know or understand all in 3D, so to function and to move forward some faith is always needed.
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    An "Idiot's Guide to Self-Realization", (or), How To Overcome Intellectualism. - by Ming the Merciful - 03-23-2021, 04:41 PM
    RE: The "Idiot's Guide to Self-Realization", (or), How To Overcome Intellectualism. - by sillypumpkins - 03-23-2021, 05:17 PM
    RE: The "Idiot's Guide to Self-Realization", (or), How To Overcome Intellect... - by Ming the Merciful - 03-23-2021, 05:46 PM
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