(01-23-2011, 01:43 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(01-23-2011, 01:15 PM)unity100 Wrote: moreover, as i said, there is no way that the gradual transition of bodies from 3d to 4d would be even possible, with the limitations you propose.I don't see how it would be impossible. More and more will be dual activated, and less and less will be 3d-only. The dual-activated type will be those entities that have never experienced 4d before. What you have with that scenario is more harvested from elsewhere, that for some reason could not continue living on their own planets. Perhaps they had a split harvest and their planets were mainly negative.
but i already cited the reasons in the above post. i think you missed the points.
the level at which 'more and more' of 4d activated bodies in a scarce situation and 'less and less' of 3d bodies would be able to meet each other in the middle to make a smooth transition is long past, due to this planet's population number.
its 7 billion. not 30 million not 60 million like in Ra's experience. every second 5 babies.
if, the 4d activated bodies were scarce as you speak, then it would mean that a small percentage of these babies that are born each hour (18,000+) would be 4d activated. rest would be 3d bodies, and this would keep the 3d body population increasing, not decreasing.
and then there is the question of harvest rates. ra's successful harvest was 5%. from over 60 million, 3 million graduated.
so, by allowing only newly 4d harvested entities into 3-4d bodies, there is no way that the reproduction rates of 4d bodies and 3d bodies would meet each other. there needs to be heaps of 4d graduates rightly available at this exact point in time and 100-200 years following it, to pull that off, and moreover, they should be all compatible with this logos' archetype, vibrations, biases and so on and the plan it chose, in order to be able to come here and incarnate. its not only a harvest numbers issue (which is a strong issue itself), but also a compatibility issue.
7 billion is a big number.
Quote:(01-23-2011, 01:15 PM)unity100 Wrote: it is fat chance that there would be as many newly harvested 3d entities coming here as much as the ones being born into this 7 billion population. even Ra's successful harvest was 5% out of its entire population.Not sure why you think a single planetary harvest, compared to the thousands possible, is significant to the new 4d population contribution. The universe is a big place.
ra's was dubbed as a harmonious, successful harvest. it was a positive one to boot, and positive harvests yield higher numbers than negative harvests. (to maintain the 1 to 10 numbers and power ratio Ra spoke of in regard to balance).
so, its a good example of a successful positive harvest.
universe is a big place, however other galaxies are out of question. ra had had noted that there had been those joining Ra complex, and had been wanderers in other galaxies. however, this was a rare phenomenon.
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?ses...=1&ss=1#27
leave aside entities just moving from one galaxy to other to incarnate as newly harvested 4d entities, ra hasnt even traveled to other galaxies. had there been such a concept of universe-wide transplantations of harvested entities, it would not only be mentioned anywhere in the material, but also, similarly, moving about in between galaxies wouldnt be this scarce, leave aside wanderer situations in between galaxies.
this is due to archetypal issues, like in the ones discussed in book 4.