(01-18-2011, 12:12 AM)Gribbons Wrote: Love is the highest frequency in the universe, no? Everything is made of light/love, as I have learned thus far. But Ra also insists the compassion is the most necessary component in balancing our light and dark sides..seeing everything as one. Would compassion then be the highest frequency since it is the binding force between the two polarities?

Quote:Ra: I am Ra. Again we reach semantic difficulties. The vibration or density of love or understanding is not a term used in the same sense as the second distortion, Love; the distortion Love being the great activator and primal co-Creator of various creations using intelligent infinity; the vibration love being that density in which those who have learned to do an activity called “loving” without significant distortion, then seek the ways of light or wisdom.

Quote:42.5
Questioner: In the last session you made the statement that “We, that is Ra, spent much time/space in the fifth-density balancing the intense compassion that we had gained in the fourth-density.” Could you expand on this concept with respect to the material you just discussed?

Ra: I am Ra. The fourth-density, as we have said, abounds in compassion. This compassion is folly when seen through the eyes of wisdom. It is the salvation of third-density but creates a mismatch in the ultimate balance of the entity.

Thus we, as a social memory complex of fourth-density, had the tendency towards compassion even to martyrdom in aid of other-selves. When the fifth-density harvest was achieved we found that in this vibratory level flaws could be seen in the efficacy of such unrelieved compassion. We spent much time/space in contemplation of those ways of the Creator which imbue love with wisdom.

(01-18-2011, 08:51 AM)unity100 Wrote: love word is also used for the highest frequency, because there is no other word to use for that in english.

(01-18-2011, 10:08 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Isn't Tao considered higher than love? I remember Tao being the all that is. Am I right here?

(01-18-2011, 08:51 AM)unity100 Wrote: love word is also used for the highest frequency, because there is no other word to use for that in english.

(01-18-2011, 10:20 PM)unity100 Wrote: love (for the lack of a better word in english) as first distortion, comes after infinite intelligence.

Quote:Questioner: In yesterday’s material you mentioned that the first distortion was the distortion of free will. Is there a sequence, a first, second, and third distortion of the Law of One?
Ra: I am Ra. Only up to a very short point. After this point, the many-ness of distortions are equal one to another. The first distortion, free will, finds focus. This is the second distortion known to you as Logos, the Creative Principle or Love. This intelligent energy thus creates a distortion known as Light. From these three distortions come many, many hierarchies of distortions, each having its own paradoxes to be synthesized, no one being more important than another.

(01-19-2011, 04:39 PM)jeremy6d Wrote:

(01-18-2011, 10:20 PM)unity100 Wrote: love (for the lack of a better word in english) as first distortion, comes after infinite intelligence.

Sorry, but isn't love a second distortion after the law of confusion / free will (see http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=15&sc=1&ss=1#21)? Just a point of fact since I read that session today.

Quote:a: I am Ra. Again we reach semantic difficulties. The vibration or density of love or understanding is not a term used in the same sense as the second distortion, Love; the distortion Love being the great activator and primal co-Creator of various creations using intelligent infinity; the vibration love being that density in which those who have learned to do an activity called “loving” without significant distortion, then seek the ways of light or wisdom.

Quote:Under this, there must be some commonality between The 2nd Distortion and what we know, will come to know in 4d, as Love.

(01-19-2011, 10:53 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: This Q'uo session might be helpful
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1993/1993_0925_1_draft.aspx

I found a session today that gave the perfect example of compassion, but I cannot find it now....

Quote:43.9 Questioner: In the next density, the fourth density, is the catalyst of physical pain used as a mechanism for experiential balancing?

Ra: I am Ra. The use of physical pain is minimal, having only to do with the end of the fourth-density incarnation. This physical pain would not be considered severe enough to treat, shall we say, in third density. The catalysts of mental and spiritual pain are used in fourth density.

Quote:43.11 Questioner: Can you state the average lifespan in the fourth density of space/time incarnation?

Ra: I am Ra. The space/time incarnation typical of harmonious fourth density is approximately 90,000 of your years as you measure time.

(01-19-2011, 11:07 PM)unity100 Wrote: some people seem to be thinking that there will be no need to incarnate, once after 3rd density, as repeated by a person who is talking (named barbara) in that quo transcript. i have also seen some people say like that around here too.

where does this conclusion comes from ?

(01-19-2011, 11:07 PM)unity100 Wrote: will the 3-4d activated body incarnates live for a duration in between 3d and 4d norms, modified by conditions on the planet ?

Quote:Let us tell you a small story, a story in which the hero is a man bent upon learning the meaning of compassion. He seeks first a very, very famous and successful mental and spiritual guide to many. This famous man greets our hero. His home is palatial, his manner most civilized. His entire being radiates a sureness of character and the confidence of wealth and yet, so many who are themselves influential in the ways of your society have spoken highly of this gentleman, but our hero feels perhaps he will know the meaning of compassion, having helped so many.

“Ah,” the rich man says, “all these things that I own are necessary in order that I may offer my services to those who in turn have the power to help so many others. True compassion is knowing whither to put your energies, and I have offered my aid to those who will be able, in turn, to be of the greatest help to the greatest number.”

Our hero moves from this interview understandably unsatisfied and walks into the middle of the city, into the meaner portions of its dark streets, passes warehouses, bolted windows, and those among your peoples who have not a supply of money for protection against the elements, and he comes to a terribly dirty, falling down storefront which is marked, “Mission.” Inside, there is a rather gaunt woman ladling soup for those indigents who have no money and he asks her with hope in his eyes and in his voice, “Can you tell me what compassion is?”

“Certainly,” says the woman, lifting her tired eyes from the kettle. “Compassion is a plate of soup for a hungry man. Compassion is seeing beauty and perfection in those things which are apparently not lovely, in seeing love in that which is not loved.”

“How many do you serve in this manner?” asked our seeker.

“I do not know,” replies the gaunt woman. “As many as I can supply with soup. Not many, I suppose,” she says, “but it is all that I can do.”

Our seeker by this time is quite confused. The two faces of compassion both seem so compelling. One is logical, one moves the heart. Both seem to be a means of comforting those who seek comfort, and is that not what compassion is?

Wandering aimlessly in the bright sun of the mid-afternoon, the young man spies a tree in the midst of a small park. There is a circular seat beneath it and he is tired and without thinking he goes to it and rests upon it that he may consider what compassion might be. After spending some time in aimless and unproductive musing, he glances to one side and then the other. Upon one side sits a most wealthy man busy with his work, the signs of wealth in his dress and his accouterments. Upon our hero’s other side rests one of those from the soup kitchen, a man unable to function within the limits of society based upon money.

The seeker looks up at the tree and suddenly knows what compassion is, for the tree is shading all three entities from the harshness of the afternoon sun.

(01-19-2011, 11:07 PM)unity100 Wrote: will the 3-4d activated body incarnates live for a duration in between 3d and 4d norms, modified by conditions on the planet ?

(01-19-2011, 11:26 PM)turtledude23 Wrote: It would probably live for up to whatever the current maximum for a typical 3d lifespan is as this person would probably take better care of their physical and emotional health, but would still probably be constrained by the lower limit of 3d physically, while being less constrained mentally.

(01-19-2011, 11:42 PM)Peregrinus Wrote:

(01-19-2011, 11:26 PM)turtledude23 Wrote: It would probably live for up to whatever the current maximum for a typical 3d lifespan is as this person would probably take better care of their physical and emotional health, but would still probably be constrained by the lower limit of 3d physically, while being less constrained mentally.

This is not necessarily the case. Because our great Mother will be rid of negativity in 2013, the possibility that the duel activated vehicles may be used for the remainder of 3D light is a possibility, if not even longer.

(01-19-2011, 10:05 PM)unity100 Wrote:

(01-19-2011, 04:39 PM)jeremy6d Wrote:

(01-18-2011, 10:20 PM)unity100 Wrote: love (for the lack of a better word in english) as first distortion, comes after infinite intelligence.

Sorry, but isn't love a second distortion after the law of confusion / free will (see http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=15&sc=1&ss=1#21)? Just a point of fact since I read that session today.

same word is used for both, apparently for lack of a better term in english.

(01-19-2011, 11:42 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: This is not necessarily the case. Because our great Mother will be rid of negativity in 2013, the possibility that the duel activated vehicles may be used for the remainder of 3D light is a possibility, if not even longer.

(01-20-2011, 12:12 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Have you found how to tell if one is dual activated?

(01-20-2011, 12:59 AM)zenmaster Wrote: I have no idea where you and others are getting the "DNA upgrade" idea.

(01-20-2011, 12:12 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Have you found how to tell if one is dual activated?

Dual-Activated means one is a very recently harvested 4D wanderer with no prior experience on earth. They have evolved on another 3D planet, under another solar and planetary logos. Consequently, their "racial mind" bias would contrast greatly with the local 3D energy patterns resulting in an alienation effect. The dual-activated entity has a 4D body component and with that can access 4D mind (time/space). The more one can access 4D mind, the greater transparency to past-live experience. So the dual-activated entity should somehow "know" things that they did not learn during this life time. A third thing would be any PSI abilities, as Don mentioned. A fourth thing would be a fourth-chakra disposition or bias when relating to others. A possible fifth thing, I've read about with the "indigo" or "star" children, is their annoying "regal" entitlement nature and high self esteem.

(01-20-2011, 12:12 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I keep finding differing sources about whether this ascension is long and drawn out, or something more rapid. I lean more to the rapid, particularly because the energy surge I have had these last months. I feel my arms and legs tingling deeply throughout. Possible DNA upgrade, but can't be sure.

Quote:It would be very dislocating, my brother, for entities of third density to see the full panoply of fourth density as it intersperses with your own. Therefore, there shall not be the manifestation of fourth density until the third-density population of your planet has finished its work here.

It is very difficult for entities to imagine how such a large population, all across your globe, could just shrink and disappear. And yet we say to you that entities moving into incarnation here will more and more be those which are dual-activated until finally, within say one of your centuries by most probability/possibility vortices, you will have no pure third-density entities living upon your planet.

Those with dual-activated bodies are far more able to see whether or not there is the necessity for further incarnations upon this planet. They will begin naturally to refrain from producing children. And so, by a fairly rapid progression after that point, the third-density population of the planet will indeed shrink in a natural and organic way, because there is the awareness that the dusk has come, the evening is at hand, and the work is done.

Those coming to the planet now, more and more, are not interested as much in working with the people of the planet to bring them to their metaphysical graduation as they are interested in balancing the somewhat frayed and tattered garment of earth which your planet wears. There is a great need among your many planetary populations to offer restitution of a planet-wide nature. This is because so many of your population are made up of those who have done damage to their planets in the past and who, because they have not been able to break their habits of seeing the Earth as something to be exploited, have again repeated that tendency to do damage.

Therefore, there is the desire to balance all remaining planet-wide karma by doing such humble things as restoring the quality of the soil, restoring the quality of the air, restoring the quality of the water and finding how to live in such a way that, in every facet of your common life, it is understood that you, your planet and all that lives upon it are dancing one dance together to the glory of the one infinite Creator.

(01-20-2011, 12:12 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Have you found how to tell if one is dual activated? My intuition tells me that I am, and I have expressed quite some passion in the Law of One.

Quote:The enhanced wiring, however, often shows through in everyday life as such entities grow up and become part of society, in that there is a certain amount of hectic energy that is different and stronger than a simple third-density wiring would permit. This creates the situation where many of your fourth-density dual-activated beings are diagnosed with some version of Attention Deficit Disorder. This comes from the increased amount of information available to those with fourth-density wiring. It is almost too much information for the third-density being to hold, and yet even with this handicap, the desire of the indigo wanderer is to come and give everything that they have to the beau geste of serving the one Creator by loving and embracing Planet Earth and its people at this time.

(01-20-2011, 01:03 AM)turtledude23 Wrote:

(01-20-2011, 12:59 AM)zenmaster Wrote: I have no idea where you and others are getting the "DNA upgrade" idea.

(01-20-2011, 12:12 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Have you found how to tell if one is dual activated?

Dual-Activated means one is a very recently harvested 4D wanderer with no prior experience on earth. They have evolved on another 3D planet, under another solar and planetary logos. Consequently, their "racial mind" bias would contrast greatly with the local 3D energy patterns resulting in an alienation effect. The dual-activated entity has a 4D body component and with that can access 4D mind (time/space). The more one can access 4D mind, the greater transparency to past-live experience. So the dual-activated entity should somehow "know" things that they did not learn during this life time. A third thing would be any PSI abilities, as Don mentioned. A fourth thing would be a fourth-chakra disposition or bias when relating to others. A possible fifth thing, I've read about with the "indigo" or "star" children, is their annoying "regal" entitlement nature and high self esteem.

I could be wrong but I think Ra said people who on earth who became capable of being harvested early come back for 1 more life in 3d but in a 3d-4d body rather going somewhere else for 4d.

(01-20-2011, 01:07 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: Q'uo did say that there is the probability that many dual activated children will be diagnosed with ADD

Quote:I find it interesting that Q'uo speaks, in this instance, of the indigo wanderer, not the green or blue or violet.

(01-20-2011, 01:07 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: Q'uo did say that there is the probability that many dual activated children will be diagnosed with ADD

(01-20-2011, 02:17 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:

(01-20-2011, 01:07 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: Q'uo did say that there is the probability that many dual activated children will be diagnosed with ADD

70% of ADD/ADHD kids get relief from symptoms simply by eliminating sugar from their diet. Another (50%? 60% sorry, don't remember) get relief by adding mineral-rich, neuropeptide-rich bluegreen algae to their diet. (Dr. Lee, expert on ADD/ADHD)

Those that do both? RESULTS!

ADD/ADHD is just a symptom of the highly toxic diet and environment children are exposed to. There are remedies available.

Dual-activated kids are probably just more susceptible, but I disagree with the New Age parents who think their kids have some strange condition. They are too quick to give up on their kids, labeling their problems 'ADD/ADHD' and attributing them to some disorder that dual-activated kids are prone to. That to me is too convenient. It's just ammonia on the brain, sugar, and mineral deficiency.

I've seen too many kids suddenly start concentrating, when they quit sugar and added algae.

It's fixable. Ridiculously fixable.

(01-20-2011, 12:59 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Dual-Activated means one is a very recently harvested 4D wanderer with no prior experience on earth. They have evolved on another 3D planet, under another solar and planetary logos. Consequently, their "racial mind" bias would contrast greatly with the local 3D energy patterns resulting in an alienation effect. The dual-activated entity has a 4D body component and with that can access 4D mind (time/space). The more one can access 4D mind, the greater transparency to past-live experience. So the dual-activated entity should somehow "know" things that they did not learn during this life time. A third thing would be any PSI abilities, as Don mentioned. A fourth thing would be a fourth-chakra disposition or bias when relating to others. A possible fifth thing, I've read about with the "indigo" or "star" children, is their annoying "regal" entitlement nature and high self esteem.

(01-19-2011, 11:56 PM)peregrine Wrote: It strikes me that you may have missed the point of correction. Probably you meant to say that Love is the SECOND distortion, not the first.

(01-20-2011, 01:03 AM)turtledude23 Wrote: I could be wrong but I think Ra said people who on earth who became capable of being harvested early come back for 1 more life in 3d but in a 3d-4d body rather going somewhere else for 4d.

(01-20-2011, 01:17 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Harvest on earth is only just now possible according to the material. Secondly, they would not go somewhere else for 4d.

Quote:It's fixable. Ridiculously fixable.

(01-20-2011, 09:07 AM)unity100 Wrote:

(01-20-2011, 12:59 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Dual-Activated means one is a very recently harvested 4D wanderer with no prior experience on earth. They have evolved on another 3D planet, under another solar and planetary logos. Consequently, their "racial mind" bias would contrast greatly with the local 3D energy patterns resulting in an alienation effect. The dual-activated entity has a 4D body component and with that can access 4D mind (time/space). The more one can access 4D mind, the greater transparency to past-live experience. So the dual-activated entity should somehow "know" things that they did not learn during this life time. A third thing would be any PSI abilities, as Don mentioned. A fourth thing would be a fourth-chakra disposition or bias when relating to others. A possible fifth thing, I've read about with the "indigo" or "star" children, is their annoying "regal" entitlement nature and high self esteem.

that doesnt fit with the definition Ra made.

(01-20-2011, 09:07 AM)unity100 Wrote: a dual activated body is a body that an entity incarnating in a 3-4 transitionary body is using (since some time before 1980s), a body which is able to 'appreciate' the incoming 4d vibrations. ra tells us. the meaning and scope of this 'appreciatiation' is undefined.

there is no prerequisite of being newly harvested or anything to incarnate in these bodies. it can be a 6d wanderer, an almost harvest ready 3d entity, a newly harvested 4d entity etc etc.

Quote:Questioner: What about the ones with the dual type of activated third and fourth-density bodies, harvested from other third-density planets? Are they able to heal using the techniques that we have discussed?

Ra: I am Ra. In many cases this is so, but as beginners of fourth-density, the desire may not be present.

Questioner: I would assume that this population is from other planets since the harvesting has not yet occurred on this planet. It is from planets where the harvesting has already occurred. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

(01-20-2011, 09:07 AM)unity100 Wrote: but, the thing is, since the incarnations are being arranged based upon seniority of vibration, it naturally ends up as such that high frequency entities are incarnating in these, late 3d, or higher.

(01-20-2011, 09:07 AM)unity100 Wrote: and that happened 25,000 years ago.

(01-20-2011, 09:07 AM)unity100 Wrote:

(01-20-2011, 01:17 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Harvest on earth is only just now possible according to the material. Secondly, they would not go somewhere else for 4d.

entities who are able to penetrate intelligent infinity have the possibility of getting harvested whenever they want, ra says.

(01-20-2011, 09:07 AM)unity100 Wrote: a number of those who had done that negatively are now told to be in other planets, incarnating, by Ra.

moreover, there were 2 more cycles before this last 25,000 year one.

zenmaster Wrote:My feeling is that the 6d/5d/4d wanderer would not incarnate in a dual-activated body, thus depriving all of those new to 4D of that 'transmigration' opportunity.