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    Thread: Biased view of STS...and INFINITY


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    04-14-2009, 06:30 PM
    First let me say Thank You to all for stimulating my thoughts in this discussion of polarization.

    I find this whole business, right/wrong/indifferent of judging ourselves as 'good' or 'evil' or STO/STS for our thoughts/actions very troubling. Picking over the minutiae of being by converting every thought or moment into a judgement of I like to / desire to help myself, or I like to / desire to help others. IMHO we are not perceiving this correctly if this is what we distill the message of the Ra material down to ...

    I enjoy eating, bicycling, beer, philosophical discussion, new things, fictional books, etc. ...
    I see others enjoying the same ...

    I also see others not able to enjoy the same...
    I have found out why they are not, it took a great deal of seeking and a lot of research to fully comprehend the magnitude ...
    I discuss this with those who do not want to hear or discuss these things ...

    I go back to eating, bicycling, beer and philosophical discussion.

    I *really* *really* want to help make the world a better place ... am ready, willing and able. I only need food/water/shelter/love. It is frustrating to be %90 STO in one's heart, but find intellectually no easy way to 'solve the worlds problems' with so much of that 'sinkhole of indifference' being propagated and accepted (even by myself). I'm tired of judging myself and others in this fashion.

    The percentage of 51% is important I think because you should not think the 49% you spend on yourself is not valuable, or was wasted on STS ['evil']. If enjoying something in life (i.e. a bicycle ride, beer, or philosophical discussion) is STS and is 'evil', then may we all be 51% STO and 49% STS. I enjoy being around people who are both compassionate and light-hearted, and not weighed down by taking on the entire weight of the worlds problems -- and if we all cared 51% we no one would have to feel that way (at least here) ... maybe after enough of that we all become so much more STO until we become so happy that we want to share with other struggling 3D worlds and realize we're in 4D STO. That said, I believe the systems we have in place are STS systems (i.e. governments/laws/lobbyists; money holds too much sway over laws rather than compassion and honesty), I think that 'evil' comes about as a result of a degree of STS in entities that is so high, that one loses touch with compassion and empathy for others due to a degree of self-focus that ignores other entities, and the resulting associated behaviors are disharmonious. That is, I do not think that STS is evil itself, but leads to actions we would call evil for the aforementioned reasons. I do not think that enjoying the fruits of being i.e. the simple pleasures whose intent is not aimed at gaining or exerting control over others, but rather sharing the joy of being, are to be considered or thought of as STS 'evil'. I do see that allowing money to be the arbiter of right and wrong (as our systems currently do) is probably not spiritually wise, but also do not see an easy way to change this, because with awareness it would change itself. Awareness comes from seeking, not from broadcasting.

    Personally, I seek joy. Joy for me comes from being around those who are joyous. This is a difficult world to be in for that reason, as not everyone is joyous. Attempting to lift the veil for others around me has not changed that ... usually those discussions end in less joy. So I cannot be happy as an ostrich (with my head in the sand), but neither can I be happy spreading fear ... so I sought a greater truth to allow me to find a modicum of peace where I seek joy. So I continue to seek solace in a greater perspective, and hoping that peace will support hope ... hope for the joy I truly seek.

    This site is an appreciated ripple in the still pond of indifference (which I know is an illusion, 'cause I think we have a great many who care, and that is the reason for the crazy catalyst we are seeing).

    Jason

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    Biased view of STS...and INFINITY - by Chaotikmind - 01-09-2009, 06:07 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 01-09-2009, 07:30 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by bring4th_steve - 01-09-2009, 10:15 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by nshucet - 01-09-2009, 10:56 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by 3D Sunset - 01-09-2009, 12:50 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Monica - 01-09-2009, 01:06 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Thorne - 02-07-2009, 01:40 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by airwaves - 02-07-2009, 04:14 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Chaotikmind - 01-09-2009, 09:47 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Monica - 01-09-2009, 10:59 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Chaotikmind - 01-10-2009, 08:38 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by rva_jeremy - 02-22-2009, 01:34 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Chaotikmind - 02-22-2009, 04:26 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Steppingfeet - 02-22-2009, 07:54 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by rva_jeremy - 02-22-2009, 09:26 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Richard - 02-22-2009, 10:53 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 02-23-2009, 01:05 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Steppingfeet - 02-23-2009, 01:03 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by rva_jeremy - 02-23-2009, 08:45 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 01-10-2009, 09:48 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by artichoke - 01-19-2009, 01:43 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 02-02-2009, 03:26 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by 3D Sunset - 02-02-2009, 04:47 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Thorne - 02-08-2009, 12:06 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by airwaves - 02-08-2009, 01:20 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Thorne - 02-08-2009, 02:40 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by airwaves - 02-08-2009, 08:59 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Thorne - 02-08-2009, 12:58 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by airwaves - 02-08-2009, 01:20 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Turtle - 02-15-2009, 09:31 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 02-15-2009, 02:24 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Chaotikmind - 02-18-2009, 05:13 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Monica - 02-18-2009, 05:42 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 02-18-2009, 05:49 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Monica - 02-18-2009, 06:30 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 02-18-2009, 06:48 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Monica - 02-18-2009, 05:31 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 02-18-2009, 02:32 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Ali Quadir - 02-18-2009, 03:47 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 02-18-2009, 05:49 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by rva_jeremy - 02-20-2009, 11:53 AM
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    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 02-20-2009, 02:03 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by rva_jeremy - 02-21-2009, 09:33 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 02-22-2009, 06:22 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by axinar - 02-22-2009, 10:52 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by axinar - 02-23-2009, 01:34 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Chaotikmind - 02-23-2009, 07:13 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by rva_jeremy - 02-24-2009, 11:09 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Chaotikmind - 02-25-2009, 09:01 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Steppingfeet - 02-25-2009, 10:58 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by rva_jeremy - 02-25-2009, 11:58 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Chaotikmind - 02-25-2009, 02:24 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by rva_jeremy - 02-25-2009, 04:43 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by AwakenedOneness - 02-28-2009, 07:58 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 02-28-2009, 02:15 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by AwakenedOneness - 02-28-2009, 10:37 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Monica - 02-28-2009, 05:42 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Monica - 03-01-2009, 02:21 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by rva_jeremy - 03-01-2009, 10:23 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by AppleSeed - 02-28-2009, 12:41 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by AwakenedOneness - 02-28-2009, 05:02 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by AppleSeed - 03-02-2009, 02:58 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Monica - 03-02-2009, 04:18 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by AppleSeed - 03-04-2009, 12:22 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Chaotikmind - 03-01-2009, 06:19 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by AwakenedOneness - 03-02-2009, 07:43 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Chaotikmind - 03-02-2009, 10:33 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by rva_jeremy - 03-02-2009, 07:04 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by AwakenedOneness - 03-02-2009, 08:34 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Monica - 03-02-2009, 10:48 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by AwakenedOneness - 03-03-2009, 05:12 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by yossarian - 09-08-2011, 06:02 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Chaotikmind - 03-03-2009, 07:43 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by AwakenedOneness - 03-04-2009, 02:32 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Chaotikmind - 03-04-2009, 05:42 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by AwakenedOneness - 03-04-2009, 03:38 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by AppleSeed - 03-05-2009, 12:20 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 03-04-2009, 06:39 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Alkhemist - 03-04-2009, 04:46 PM
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    RE: Biased view of STS - by Alkhemist - 03-05-2009, 04:42 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Chaotikmind - 03-05-2009, 05:22 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Steppingfeet - 04-02-2009, 11:38 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Monica - 04-03-2009, 01:19 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 04-03-2009, 01:42 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Monica - 04-03-2009, 06:15 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by 3D Sunset - 04-03-2009, 09:39 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Phoenix - 04-03-2009, 07:34 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 04-06-2009, 01:11 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by 3D Sunset - 04-06-2009, 01:36 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ayadew - 04-09-2009, 05:25 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by 3D Sunset - 04-14-2009, 01:39 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Quantum - 04-14-2009, 05:40 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by ubergud - 04-14-2009, 06:30 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by 3D Sunset - 04-15-2009, 10:16 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by AppleSeed - 04-15-2009, 01:37 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Chaotikmind - 04-15-2009, 07:47 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Quantum - 04-15-2009, 10:21 PM
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    RE: Biased view of STS - by Quantum - 04-16-2009, 07:56 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Chaotikmind - 04-17-2009, 04:37 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Phoenix - 04-17-2009, 05:08 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by paddy - 09-27-2009, 10:25 PM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by Experience You - 08-22-2010, 04:34 AM
    RE: Biased view of STS - by unity100 - 08-22-2010, 05:05 AM
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