10-25-2016, 02:44 PM
(10-25-2016, 01:42 PM)anagogy Wrote: I don't think anyone was suggesting to not acknowledge the suffering, just to not "wallow in it". In the context of your example, it would be akin to pointing out the entity is hungry, and spending your time finding someone to blame for it, and listing all the causes of it, and quoting statistics about how everyone you know is hungry, and that hunger is such a huge problem, rather than just getting on with feeding the person (which is focusing on the solution rather than the problem).
Don't you understand how in context, this is necessary? I mean, not to the hyperbole you make, but if I were to just hand a hungry entity food, I'm just helping it in that moment. They will come back to me tomorrow still hungry, "wallowing" in it. If I want to actually solve their problem, we must talk about it and address it within the context of their current life experience. "Teach a man to fish" - we shouldn't just say "Hey, there's a whole ocean of fish over there, why aren't you helping yourself?"
Quote:Why do you have to qualify it with "white, straight, male"? (and why even go to the lengths to make those assumptions about people? Do you think everybody on an anonymous internet forum shares every little detail about themselves?) Shouldn't it bother you if anyone were to do that, regardless of their physical characteristics? Do you see how its not your focus on the repression that is the actual main "problem"? You are attacking a perceived repression with yet more repression (of the people you think are responsible), and are further singling people out based on racial/gender characteristics. That is the divisive aspect of all of this (and a prime example of why these SJW groups are ultimately self defeating).
I'm really trying very hard not to repress based on skin color and gender. And I wasn't making assumptions, I was just making juxtapositions. My point that I've been attempting to make this whole time is that when you are not the demographic that is traditionally and systematically repressed and being talked about in the current discussion, it doesn't help when you are dismissive towards these people's experiences that have caused them real pain. I really cannot fathom why this concept is so hard to understand. The only thing that I can assume is that not experiencing these things directly - preincarnative choices that are actually more than an article of clothing - puts up a blockage. That's why I say, it must be because you are a man that you would tell someone their attempt to convey an understanding of why rape culture makes them feel vulnerable makes you want to puke. It must be because you are straight that you can't understand why Chandlersdad would be incited by a wise teacher that he respects using the word "fag". The fact that you do this rudely even implies an additional lack of respect that I then assume is couched in this blockage of being unable to understand the experiences of others.