10-13-2016, 08:43 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-14-2016, 11:43 AM by octavia.
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(10-13-2016, 07:33 PM)Nicholas Wrote:(09-25-2016, 01:06 AM)octavia Wrote:
This stuck out to me. I would like to strongly & honestly disagree with what is being expressed here. Unfortunately after multiple tries, I have been unable to properly articulate that disagreement in a way that is valuable and contributes to the discussion. However, this topic is meaningful to me. Can someone help me here?
I suspect the problem lies with within our own subjective interpretation. It sounds dogmatic on one level, and yet somewhat accurate on another. The accuracy I perceive is that if we consistently choose a fear based option during our lifetimes, we will engage with unsavoury experiences as a result. If we chose a more courageous choice, now and then at least, we will experience something more profound than we had ever experienced before.
The dogma I perceive is that this "you create your reality" stuff is being expressed in a matter of fact context. This is a subtle yellow/blue ray imbalance imo. It may in fact be true, but we are are stepping ever so slightly on the toes of others that may vehemently disagree with such a statement. Truth is a subjective affair, therefore a most delicate one!
Hi Nicholas,
Thanks for your thoughts. At the time of my original statement, I did not articulate myself clearly. Therefore I will elaborate.
I most certainly agree with the concept of the individual who manifests their own reality. However, the individual is a very deep entity. In but a single individual there exists the conscious, sub-conscious, spirit, and higher self. One facet of this concept is pre-incarnative planning, with Plenum giving the example of Franklin Roosevelt. Therefore, my thinking is that any one blanket statement offered for an individual's involvement in some troubling phenomena will fail to capture the nature of the phenomena itself, and I believe that this applies to sexual harassment as well.
The following statements specifically did not resonate with me as true, partially because I was unclear on the concept expressed of "one following their bliss," as this is not conceptual terminology that I am familiar with.
(09-24-2016, 12:36 AM)anagogy Wrote: ...Similarly, a rape victim does not deliberately attract rape, rather, they simply, for whatever reason, get out of alignment with who they really are.
So, things like rape (and other horrible shadow things) are the unpleasant negative bounty one reaps of consistently not following their bliss.
Here I would like to be frank. From our own 3rd density viewpoint, a viewpoint so influenced by the veil, it seems quite impossible for us, without help from higher teachers, to determine whether an instance of sexual harassment was pre-incarnatively planned, or whether there are other forces at play. In this very specific sense then, these statements do not strike me as true.
(09-25-2016, 02:59 AM)anagogy Wrote: The more specifically you identify wanted, the more specifically you are simultaneously defining unwanted. I'm not talking about the conscious mind when I say that, this is almost entirely an unconscious clarification.
[Edit: I just reread the following paragraph and I realized that it came across as quite unfriendly! In the future I will concert my efforts in a more concentrated manner toward offering my honest opinion in a way that is more loving and accepting. I have proceeded the paragraph with my proposed edit to its contents.]
To elaborate upon this idea of the unconscious mind, I would also say that in my opinion, to attempt to look at the external phenomena surrounding certain individuals and then to categorically imagine what is happening in their own unconscious mind is much like to across a sleeping stranger, to imagine what dream they might be having, and then to attempt to analyze that dream.
[Content of the edit follows: To elaborate upon this idea of the unconscious mind, I would also like to speak of a potential difficulty with the alignment/unalignment model. I think that, if we are not careful with its application, we may find ourselves looking upon the external phenomena surrounding certain individuals and then attempting to categorically determine what is happening in their own unconscious mind. I feel that, were we to fall into this difficulty, that this would be much like if we were, upon coming across a sleeping stranger, to imagine what dream they might be having, and then to attempt to analyze that dream.]
In exploring the concept of the individual who manifests their own reality, I think it is important to balance these principles with the physical world that we are presented with. For example, to my knowledge, in the United States of America, women are at a far greater risk of sexual harassment than men. Furthermore, I believe it is a safe statement to say that this is a result of how women are disrespected in various ways in our society, to the extent that they are placed at risk. However, let us suppose for a moment instead that the skewing of these statistics is simply the expression of the fact that women are at, greater risk of, shall we say, getting out of alignment with who they really are. This application however, would not strike me as coherent, as seemingly places the cart before the horse.
Let us now consider other examples that do not relate to the perhaps emotionally charged example of sexual harassment. For example, late into the Ra Contact, Don, Carla, and Jim started to experience negative psychic greetings from a 5th density negative entity. I do not believe that this was because any member of the Ra contact got "out out of touch with who they are", but rather that it was a natural consequence of the, shall we say, brilliance of their seeking, which attracted the negative entity, who, through its own free will, had a desire to manipulate and control this seeking. In this specific sense then, the concept of one who "gets out of alignment with who he really is", is inapplicable. In fact, were Don, Carla, and Jim not in such an alignment, I doubt the Ra contact would have occurred in the first place.
However, it other contexts it may be far more coherently applied. For example, to my understanding, the basic mechanics of a negative psychic greeting involves the attempted exaggeration of already present minor distortions in the body/mind/spirit complex such that they become major distortions, there being many examples of this phenomenon throughout the Ra contact. Here, I believe the previously offered concept of "one who gets out of alignment" is much more applicable. But it must be understood in the context of the entire event, otherwise I believe it loses all coherence.
So my basic perspective that I would like to offer is this: in certain contexts it seems as though this mechanism described may be quite coherent. However, in examples where knowledge from beyond the veil would be required, or otherwise would involve our own material reality in a most confused way, it becomes just the opposite, and I believe that sexual harassment is of a high order among these examples.