03-25-2016, 02:58 PM
(03-25-2016, 12:05 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:(03-25-2016, 09:43 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote:(03-25-2016, 07:58 AM)BlatzAdict Wrote: when you work in customer service you encounter STS people all the time.
They are super super super self entitled. Like the world owes them something. Very hard to deal with and communicate with. anyone who seems to have some semblence of "maturity" quickly degrades when they do not get what they want.
STS individuals will never take responsibility, and usually may not be living in the present moment but somewhere in the past or the future.
I think you're referring to a narcissistic instead of a STS person.
I think there is quite a bit of overlap. Narcissistic people view others as extensions of themselves to manipulate and use to their advantage, and narcissism is one personality disorder that's extremely hard to treat, because one trait of a narcissist is that they believe nothing is wrong with them (psychologically, they can use medical problems to manipulate others).
I was debating whether or not to post this, but I'm rather sure enough to. I believe that my mother may be a polarizing STS entity. She is quite attractive and does well to take care of her appearance and use it to her advantage (though years of substance abuse has taken its toll, she's a bit overweight, but that doesn't stop her from constantly dating men younger than me). She's always had a team of minions willing to do her bidding at a moment's notice. Her favorite game has always been to get someone else to do something for her. She hated having kids and mostly screamed at us and told us how much she hated us, otherwise we would just be left to our own devices, many times locked in the car at night while she was inside somewhere shady doing drugs/cheating on my father.
It's interesting because as I've become 'keener' to her ways, I've noticed how differently she speaks to me than everyone else. She takes a much softer/pleasing tone with me than anyone, because she knows that I'm not going to just follow orders, she has to be trickier. More and more I've cut her out of my life because she CONSTANTLY makes -promises- that she has no intention to keep (her main trick). Anyway, for a long time (20 years?) her profession was 'drug lord' and currently, she is in prison. (Lucky for her she's not in a cell, she's in some federal facility that's basically like being locked in a motel) She has tried a few times now to reach out and see how much control I'll give her from her current position (not much), and has now backed off.
A lot of her self-serving desires were fueled along by a lovely monster we all know as meth. But, even in her 'clean' times (like now in prison) she still retains the same view of others as a means to serve herself. Do I think she's harvestable? No, not likely. But I do think she has made the conscious decision to use others instead of serving them many, many, many more times over than she's made the choice of selfless service.
You sound like me, in a lot of ways I mirror you. I have to congratulate you for having the bravery to see the worth in yourself and why it would not be beneficial to you or to your mother for allowing her to control you. In that sense, you have gained a greater sense of respect for yourself and for your mother by setting that healthy boundary.
Yes I love, will I let you control me? No. But I love you nonetheless.
I would say Narcissism is highly equated to Autism, the inability or the turning away of the plight of others, the over analyzation of fair and unfair for the self and the self only. Someone like this has not had heartbreak or had to experience any true loss.
Is it a disease or a state of mind? I think it's a pre condition that emerges due to the lifestyle of the 21st century. I honestly don't see Virtual Reality making this any better. Once I had someone try to blame the company I work for, for not having special options on their device to prevent them from making transactions because they have a spending problem.
Increasingly society is making it so that we take less self responsibility, and ultimately pass on our desire and wills to others in the search for our own self satisfaction.
Is narcissism STS? Yea it's a form of early STS that does not regard others, though from what Jade here describes, she's gone past directly manipulative and gone into wisdom to trickery which technically is going to skip that heart chakra.
Negative activation for negative reach of intelligent infinity, to stay on her good side so that further possibilities for manipulation can occur.
It's weird how different our families are and yet the dynamics are exactly the same. I keep the same healthy boundary and have to towards both of my parents.
Much before I read the LOO, i often felt like an orphan since I did not think in anyway like my parents, or at the time i thought so. Now I see them as having unhealed hearts, as the LOO proceeds those of us who scholarly research it, to face our own negative habits.
Like you I limit contact with my father, at least until such a time he's able to address me in an adult manner. It looks like that won't happen until the life between lives in the spiritual life review period which is fine. It feels like a very hard task, though at the same time that's what we signed up for.
Hard dilemma. Finding acceptance in the now with what cards we have been dealt rather than focusing on what cards could have been dealt. Is the beginning of a long road to self acceptance, self forgiveness, and ultimately peace, if not for others at least for the self.