08-24-2010, 01:15 PM
(08-24-2010, 11:58 AM)Experience You Wrote: Unity
Consciousness encompass everything that exists, It does not matter if there is or not infinity before consciousness.
it does matter whether there is or not infinity before consciousness.
because, if there is infinity before consciousness - and there is - it means that consciousness is not infinite.
Quote:There is definitely the concept and the experience of void and nothing in consciousness but not the actual non-existence, existence already encompass everything that exists, not non-existence.
that is an imbalanced approach favoring consciousness. it just doesnt want to accept and admit that there should be a full complementary counterpart of consciousness, completing it to infinity.
you are basically saying here is that, there cant be the antithesis of consciousness and existing.
Quote:So the total consciousness that is me is also you, you can't escape from it, Time as you understand is a constraint, and is self imposed, meaning lack of awareness. You misunderstand me if i think i am talking about rotations of planets or the movement of your hand.
i dont see any explanation, rationale, or logic from where this 'time is a self imposed constraint' comes from. it just flies in thin air so far.
in regard to time being lack of awareness, that also flies in thin air ; you were a rock or an element a few dozen billion years ago, you have become a 2d entity for a few billion years, then a 3d entity, now you are an entity that has this amount of consciousness.
during all this process your consciousness, awareness has risen, yet, time, which is actually change, has still remained there. you havent at all freed yourself from it.
assuming you go to a higher density existence soon, things will happen much faster, thoughts will become things much faster in the density you are in, and you will think that time is now less of a factor for you, but, that would be just irrelevant : because everything happens faster, change also happens faster. while you are thinking and manifesting or experiencing x amount of concepts/ideas/emotions, the entities inhabiting your density are also doing the same as fast as you, so, your experience of time as a measure of change will not just go away.
rotations of planets, movements are also change. they are just happening much slower in this plane of existence. however, they are as real as anything else.
Quote:I will repeat existing "forever"does not make sense, There is no point of reference in total awareness, things just are. You are and then you are and then you are. From 3d this looks, like "forever" but i will remind you from total awareness everything just IS, any movement comes from focusing at some part of the awareness and disregarding others.
'things just are', 'you are' do not hold any meaning. they are just words.
nothing 'just is' except infinity. anything below it, experiences, changes, and moves forward, including infinite intelligence, which everything draws their consciousnesses from.
had i been 'what i am', i wouldnt have come to this existence and this octave in this particular nexus and manifest as thus, despite i have already merged with infinite intelligence at the end of last octave.
yet, me, you, and everything manifesting here have not only come again from the earlier octave, but also put so many densities in between the last density of last octave and theirs. last density of last octave, if you remember, happens to be the first of this, ie, red spectrum.
the entities there, are still merged and 'one' with infinite intelligence. yet, they not only move on, progress, but also as a result of this, change.
that basically means, they were not 'just' they are, since they have changed so much from being a rock, to becoming a 3d entity or any other density entity.
moreover, all of these entities will again go to the 8th density of this octave, which happens to be the 1st of the next octave, even changing further.
so, even at the point of 8th density, which is approximately 2 densities above the 'unity' meaning density of 6th and the 'i just am' density of 7th which you seem to be referencing to, will STILL be changing and morphing and progressing further.
if everything 'just is', they would stop at 7th density. they do not.
this doesnt change how does this look when looked from the perspective of 3rd density either - 7d and 8d entities will STILL change and transform and move on, towards an infinite fate. that means, at the given point, they just 'were not'.
and just like there is time now in this octave, there will be time in the next octave. if, time 'was not', as you claim to be, there wouldnt be time in this octave, because, this octave is no different from the infinite other octaves before, and after this one. this is just another octave.
Quote:We are both but in order we are first Infinite awareness and then everything else.
You are free to disagree but i think i have said everything i had to say, i thank you for expressing your thoughts on the subject and showing me a different perspective.
What i know is what i know but i don't think i know much at all lol
Love E
it seems to me you are just leaning heavily and imbalancedly on the existence side.