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    Thread: Is 4D Endless Love?


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    01-11-2015, 12:32 PM
    "The path of martyrdom", as Ra calls it, is not just about death. Martyrdom is about taking on so much that you become weak, overwhelmed, and burdened with how much you are trying to do. There is the tendency towards this with 4D love, and 5th density is learning the wisdom to know when to act and when acting is over-acting. In compassionate love we can just keep giving of ourselves until there's nothing left, or we can just keep following the orders of beings who aren't having us act in our best interest. This is martyrdom. Some martyrs take it a step further and bask in the sympathy they get from others - "poor you", "your life must be so hard!", etc, gives a lot of beings the strength and reason to keep moving forward with their path of over-extension. It feels good to be appreciated! Sometimes we deny ourselves pleasure for "the greater good" - like Carla did when she gave up her shopping habit to be more impoverished.

    Quote:As to the instrument, the journey from worth in action to worth in esse is arduous. The entity has denied itself in order to be free from that which it calls addiction*. This sort of martyrdom, and here we speak of the small but symbolically great sacrifice of the clothing, causes the entity to frame a selfhood in poorness which feeds unworthiness unless the poverty is seen to be true richness. In other words, good works for the wrong reasons cause confusion and distortion. We encourage the instrument to value itself and to see that its true requirements are valued by the self. We suggest contemplation of true richness of being.




    * Carla had made a New Year’s resolution to give up buying clothes for herself for one year

    So in 5th density we start learning how to say no, really, to not take on too much. We learn to balance our love so that when we act, there is no detriment to others, like ourselves from overexertion, and we learn when our helping others is just enabling. We learn to fine tune our balance so that we are giving as much of ourselves as possible but not *too* much. Martyrdom is giving too much. Martyrdom happens when one gets stuck in the heart chakra, and is unable to move into the higher chakras. Ra warns of this path but also says it is nothing less than perfect. In fact Ra speaks of the martyr a lot because its preferred instrument, Carla, has/had tendencies towards martyrdom due to her worship of the perfection of Jesus Christ.

    Quote:75.15 Questioner: The chink then, as I understand it, was originally created by the decision of Jesus to take the path of martyrdom? Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is, in relation to this instrument, quite correct. It is aware of certain over-balances towards love, even to martyrdom but has not yet, to any significant degree, balanced these distortions. We do not imply that this course of unbridled compassion has any fault but affirm its perfection. It is an example of love which has served as beacon to many.

    For those who seek further, the consequences of martyrdom must be considered, for in martyrdom lies the end of the opportunity, in the density of the martyr, to offer love and light. Each entity must seek its deepest path.
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    Is 4D Endless Love? - by AnthroHeart - 01-09-2015, 02:24 PM
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    RE: Is 4D Endless Love? - by AnthroHeart - 01-09-2015, 02:28 PM
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    RE: Is 4D Endless Love? - by AnthroHeart - 01-09-2015, 02:56 PM
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    RE: Is 4D Endless Love? - by AnthroHeart - 01-09-2015, 03:07 PM
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    RE: Is 4D Endless Love? - by Jade - 01-11-2015, 12:32 PM
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