07-04-2014, 04:53 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-05-2014, 03:45 AM by third-density-being.)
(07-04-2014, 08:44 AM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: Greetings YourOtherSelf,
Even though You've addressed your Words to YourOtherSelf, I would like to reply to Them.
(07-04-2014, 08:44 AM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: Regarding your experience of "activation", I had an unusual experience twelve years ago. Memory is a bit fuzzy at this point but I recall waking in the early AM hours and feeling this... I don't know... clear, body-wide electrical energy permeating my experience. I could suddenly almost "see" the anatomy or physiology of my entire body, especially the skeletal structure, like I had x-ray vision, so to speak. I don't recall it lasting long, but it certainly stood out!
I would like to ask You about your reactions/experiences as well as "state" of your awareness/consciousness, [I would be very grateful if native English Person/Being/Sub-Logoi would explain to me the differences between those two words/phrases. It's one of things with which I "struggle" for long time due to "lost in translation", inevitable effect.]
I'm asking about it, because if your experiences would be mine, I think I would lost my "local Self" in one-pointendess of searches of my true, not of this density, Self. At least I think at this time I would very likely do so.
(07-04-2014, 08:44 AM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: I've never understood precisely why it happened, but upon asking a very good channel about what happened, I received the reply:
"We are not usually of the disposition to speak to that which has not been spoken, yet, clearly in this instance we can suggest that this was an indicator, an initiatory experience that will find further repetition and permutation within the life pattern in the days to come."
I am wondering how did You get to trust this source/channel. How do You determine it was authentic?
This is one of greatest disadvantages of "mind path". I cannot accept any other channels. I've questioned Ra's Words for many years with my mind. So hard, so harshly, so cruel sometimes - I even ridicule myself The Law of One. But every time when emotions dropped or "blockages" of the mind (arguing to Self: "no, because no"'/"rejection a priori") fell, I was not able to undermine/discredit/impair Ra's teachings/learning. When being truly honest with Self, with "quality of the mind approach", You simply cannot dismiss/reject this Wisdom. This is of course only my opinion.
Edit: Any other channels (I've met) fall before my mind. That's my source of "unacceptability".
(07-04-2014, 11:51 AM)BrownEye Wrote: (...)
I assume it is the brow chakra activation. I still deal with throat chakra activation which has me dealing with "blue" frequencies mostly visual, sometimes audio as a musical sound inside of the head.
My experience involves reception of technical information, while yours may be more connected to "seeing" in multiple frequencies and dimensions.
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I get the idea that you are partially functioning as a monitoring device, and the issues with signal integration are causing the noise and static.
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Again, signal integration.
Hello BrownEye,
As I think your entire post will be of Aid to YourOtherSelf, for me it is very interesting to read/met Words/Being with such technical understanding/perceiving of this Wisdom. It's very close to me, even though I'm far from being able to experience something similar myself.
What really "opens mind" to all new level of thinking/understanding is that Ra gave me/us an access to Soul/Spirit/Non-material part of Self/Higher-Self/Creator with the Mind. The greatest obstacle/barrier to our True Self in this reality/density/realm of existence.
(07-04-2014, 01:48 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: I hold no expectations. =P
I'd prefer to say I'm looking for "methods of expressing myself given the current limitations this medium provides".
You're assisting me more than you think. Just simply discussing these events/concepts with another helps.
That is what I hoped will be of Aid to You.
It is same for me, for my understanding. Lately I had another "rejection attempt" but this time it was more inside me than on level of actual actions - I did not stopped reading The Law of One and trying to better understand it. This time "rejection" just slided on the surface of my Certainty. Deep inside my Self I Know.
I cannot explain it to anyone, I know no Words which would be able to express this certainty. I do not know how to share this with my Closest. I don't know how to explain. It just transcends words.
(07-04-2014, 01:48 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: Perhaps you will if that is your desire.
I do not think currently if it would be such a good idea. I think it's very likely that if I were to experience such profound perception, I would had my very, very long searched Mind certainty. Now I'm somewhat afraid that if that would happened, my Mind would simply "left" this reality/density. He would hold this experience/perception very dearly and it would do everything (literally - that means one-pointedness) do repeat this experience/perception. And if possible, to maintain it as long as possible. To "get there"" (this is an example of very simply, mind-based understanding/imagination).
(07-04-2014, 01:48 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: Please do remember the brunt of these events happened for years ago and I'm thankful for having gone through them. Everyone has their own path and my self is fulfilled these days.
I see that You reacted very differently from my most probable reaction.
Therefore I would like to as if You are a Spiritual Person/Being/Entity/sub-Logoi? I think that You were able to assimilate/accept this experience/perception on many more levels that mind offers.
When I asked You how your every day life looks like, I was asking in fact about your perception of everything/everyone in face of your experiences. Are Other'Selves the same as They were before your Activation? Or maybe your are perceiving Other Peoples very differently? I wonder what do You think of Them/How do You perceive Them when You are communicating/speaking with Them? Are You able to "receive" more that is said and shown with body/material vehicle language?
(07-04-2014, 01:48 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: I spent the following week in a mental health ward after being released (on my 30th birthday) I didn't go back to work and needed time to "heal". I'm embarrassed in some ways to confront them about everything.
I understand and can truly relate to that.
(07-04-2014, 01:48 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: It wasn't like sitting and watching a movie. More of an instantaneous flooding of past experiences, good and bad.
Those you've loved. Those you thought you were loving but were in fact hurting or even holding them back.
Understanding even if you could go back in time and make different choices you wouldn't because every single event shaped you into who you've become
I don't know how deep have You penetrated Ra's Teaching/Learning but for me, as I understand it, it is an example of experience of time/space.
It is one of the most astonishing concepts in The Law of One for me personally. Instead of quoting I prefer to express my own understanding of this concept.
We are all living/existing in the "illusion".
Pleas bear in minds that this is just a word Ra have to used to somehow "label" his understanding of our "conditions of existence/beingness". Word "illusion" is "for Us", for our level of understanding. This is what/how We are able to comprehend this concept. Please keep it in mind regarding EVERY word which starts to give You an understanding. Please try to see its conventionality
"Illusion" consists of space/time and time/space.
space/time is were our current consciousness/awareness resides. [I really would be very grateful for an explanation] This is part of the "Illusion" where we are experiencing our physical bodies/vehicles and where we consciously experiencing our Self and Other-Selves. Not to mention the Entire Creation - of course as far as we can with our five senses based strictly on this "Illusion". We are developing understanding of consciousness [Due to lack of precise understanding I'm not sure If I'm explaining this correctly] limited with physical vehicles. Also it is a Great Lesson/Catalyst to experience Other Consciousness in same limitations. This "limitations/physical vehicles" extremely deforming/distorting the "image" of Self to Other-Self. I think it is quite bizarre lesson of accepting consciousness in very obscure form, since our true nature is non-material.
time/space is where other half of Self resides. This is extremely important to understand in my opinion. That we have counscious access only to "half of Self". Of course this is not literally "half" as We cannot be divided like matter we are experiencing in this reality/density. Still what is available to Us is only incomplete aspect of Whole - almost like a Self-Puzzle. We have only one piece of puzzle we have never seen. We have to find and recognize Part of Self that is missing to our current perception. But before We will have any chances to do that, first we have to see clearly Part of Self that is consciously available to Us (space/time part of Self).
Returning to time/space itself. Like in space/time we all share same time and what differs for all of Us is space, in time/space it is space we all share, wile each of Us have/experiencing unique time. Ra Teaches/Learns that [Please bear in minds that those are only labels for necessity of our comprehension ability] this part of "Illusion" resides in velocity/vibration higher than speed of light (that is a barrier of "time" [which is part of this "Illusion"] as I understand it).
All "magical work" or simply "magic" is done in time/space. RA said that fifth density Entity/Being which is of Serve to Self polarization has great opportunity of gaining Wisdom/Understanding of this part of "Illusion", as he has counscious access to it. I think it may be compared to our access to matter, but I'm not sure of it.
In time/space all influences/interactions of Spirit/Non-Material part of Self takes place. Our current access to this part of "Illusion" is called by Us a subconscious (label reflecting level of understanding of this part of "Illusion" on our Planet).
I believe that all "positive thinking" and all "passionate prayers" are - when cumulated - executed/acted upon in time/space.
I hope that words/labels I used to express my understanding will not diminish this Wisdom/Understanding to anyone. This is so important to me, because understanding it will greatly help/aid Us in understanding Self.
In fourth book Ra explained that this division is caused due to the veil experiment executed by "latter" sub-Logoi. In this labeling/division we are sub-sub Logoi - Logoi creates galaxy and Stars - sub-Logoi. Sub-Logoi (Stars) creates planetary/spheres systems with sub-sub-Logoi - Beings/Entities like Us. In this point of view Ra is also sub-sub-Logoi, as we still will be in sixth density. I think that after seventh density, when we will leave this octave (maybe) We become sub-Logoi.
Please note that I’ve used word/label “octave”. Yet, I cannot describe what it is. All I can say is that its portion of Creation which consists of seven densities. I do not understand what is exactly labeled/named by those words, but as far as I can, I was able to get general/out-of-third-density picture of it.
Veil is in my understanding basic/fundamental/main/master reason for third density being "density of Sorrow".
(07-04-2014, 01:48 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: And I exercise caution when viewing other self's in such a manner that my projections may influence them.
Please do not underestimate Other-Selves. You will not hurt Them with your activation/growth/evolution of Self. I think it is more likely that You will wake up many Beings/Entities/sub-sub-Logoi form Their “third-density dream”.
All I have best in me for all of You my Dear Other-Selves