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Activation - YourOtherSelf - 06-30-2014
I'll begin my "story" in the middle and focus on one aspect of my awakening process. The following events happened roughly four years ago and have forever changed how I interact with the world around me. I'm also hoping to gain insight from others whom may have experienced similar happenings.
When this all started I had not yet found my way to the Ra material. The best way to describe the weeks leading up to this event is to call it a blending of my inner and outer world.
One evening, after a series of unfolding coincidences, I knew something was going to happen that evening. "What" exactly I wasn't sure but I knew it had to do with a choice I had made earlier that day.
At this point in time I had just began meditating and had a few techniques I would use to calm down when "things" (hard to explain) began to escalate. In a semi meditative state, I felt a presence of sorts trying to communicate with me, and for the first time in my life heard a voice inside my head other than my own.
"Everything will be ok."
I was afraid. So many rapid changes had my mind spinning. As the fear increased, the presence would disappear. I understood that my fear of "it" was preventing it from communicating with me.
Finally, after calming myself down and resuming my meditation I felt the presence again. This time all at once I felt an "electric" shock running through my body, mixed with "screeching" sounds.
I'm unsure if I resisted enough to make it stop, or if that was just the first wave ending. Again the voice came back, reassuring me "everything would be ok" and that "it would only take ten seconds".
After the weeks I had been through leading up to this event, I learned there was no point in resisting this process (whatever it was that was happening to me) and allowed "it" to continue to do what it was doing. I resumed meditation.
Again the electrical feeling came back (It's very hard to describe and I'm hoping someone has went through something similar.) with the sounds. It felt like I was being ripped apart on a molecular level. It finally stopped.
I opened my eyes and everything looked different. It all had a red hue and was heavily "pixelated". I looked down at my arm and could see an "alien" looking hand inside my own. Whatever was speaking to me told me (this time NOT with a voice but an understanding or knowing) that "it" was in my blood.
I couldn't sleep that night and stayed up wondering what the heck was happening to me. The following day after trying to explain things to family members they were concerned for my sanity. I experienced a full blown psychotic episode and was checked in to a mental hospital. A week later I was discharged.
I'm grossly skipping over many many details and perhaps at another time I'll discuss other aspects of the process.
I was diagnosed as having a bipolar manic episode and sent home with some medication. I was stubborn and refused to take the meds.
Strange things continued.
I began "talking" with deceased relatives. Some lights I used to "play" with as a child returned. They would form different geometric patterns in my vision (I still experience these lights but only when I choose to see them) but we still have no idea what purpose these lights serve.
One night the purple lights came back, but this time my whole vision was created by them. (They are like tiny orbs or grape like pixels that group together to form images.) Everything I could see was formed by them. They formed the shape of an "eye" and I was getting closer and closer to it until I passed through the eye itself. It was the eye of Ra or Horus, although at the time I wasn't aware of that.
After my consciousness passed through this "eye" there was a vision of complete destruction. Explosions, mushroom clouds, ect., then I started traveling through space, moving forward past many different stars and planets. It didn't matter if my eyes were opened or shut, it's all I could see. (all created with patterns of the tiny purple lights) In the distance ahead I could see this planet "I" appeared to be heading towards. Finally after my vision landed on this certain planet my eyesight returned to normal.
The whole experience was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. I remember passing one planet in particular that had huge "rings" around it, it took my breath away. After that day I would get overwhelmed with some kind of information transfer. It would get to the point where I'd have to ask for a break as something was always trying to communicate with me.
My family (still concerned) talked me into seeing a therapist. Long story short, they diagnosed me with damn near everything. Bi Polar, Schizophrenic, Epileptic, and the list went on. Again I decided against taking the (antipsychotic) meds.
I knew I wasn't crazy. Thankfully something seemed to be directing me to certain information. The library became a hangout for me, I stumbled into the work of Carl Jung. Then later researching the "eye" in my vision, I stumbled into the Ra material.
It helped me understand much of my experience on this planet so far, but I still have many questions.
I believe what I experienced with the electricity was my "activation".
53 . 8
Questioner: Could
you give me an
example of one of
these meetings
between a Wanderer
and a social
memory complex as
to what the
Wanderer would
experience?
The feeling of being awakened or activated is the goal of this type of contact. The duration and imagery used varies depending upon the subconscious expectations of the Wanderer which is experiencing this
opportunity for activation. <>
I'm curious what exactly is being "activated" during an activation. Have other wanderers encountered something they believe to mark the point of their activation?
In the Ra material it mentions different density bodies being activated in wanderers.
I experienced a lot of darkness during my awakening process and still experience it till this day. I'm used to "things" now though so life is much easier in some ways. It just gets hard at times trying to balance two worlds like this, the physical and metaphysical.
53 . 10 ▶ Questioner: Well, talking
about this type of encounter of self to self, do any Wanderers of a positive polarization ever encounter a so-called “close encounter” with the Orion or negatively oriented polarization?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The—
53 . 11 ▶ Questioner: [Interrupting]
Why does this occur?
Ra: I am Ra. When it occurs it is quite rare and occurs either due to the Orion entities’ lack of perception of the depth of positivity to be encountered or due to the Orion entities’ desire to, shall we say, attempt to remove this positivity from this plane of existence.
There was a lot of darkness back then and it's still with me today but I manage to deflect most of it. I encountered some beautiful things on my path, but I've also experienced the exact opposite.
Do any wanders on a service to others path believe they have been contacted by Orion entities?
Thank you for taking the time to read my introduction, any and all thoughts are welcome.
Namaste, YOS.
I'm also curious if anyone has any information about seeing purple patterns of light during their awakening.
RE: Activation - Hotsizzle77 - 06-30-2014
Remind yourself constantly that you're choosing to polarize positively. Also, I would observe the psychic greetings with the thoughts of "I respect your desires, but no thank you" and move on. Wish the negative well but love yourself. Hope this helps
RE: Activation - YourOtherSelf - 06-30-2014
(06-30-2014, 10:52 PM)Hotsizzle77 Wrote: Remind yourself constantly that you're choosing to polarize positively. Also, I would observe the psychic greetings with the thoughts of "I respect your desires, but no thank you" and move on. Wish the negative well but love yourself. Hope this helps
Thank you for your reply, I appreciate the caring nature of your being.
I've grown quite comfortable in my new skin.
It wasn't easy getting "here" but looking backwards I can now see the many attempts at manipulation when I was in my most vulnerable state.
One of the most confusing aspects of the Law of One for myself, revolves around situations regarding the quarantine of the planet by the Guardians.
Do you believe you've been infringed upon by the Orion group?
RE: Activation - Spaced - 07-01-2014
Thank you for sharing your story Other-Self
.I wouldn't say I have had much in terms of experiences on the level that you are describing, but some things did stand out to me. Based on personal experience the electric shock and "screeching" sound (is it like a high pitched static sort of sound?) along with seeing things as pixilated makes me think of a kundalini activation experience.
Quote:49.5
[...]
The most important concept to grasp about the energy field is that the lower or negative pole will draw the universal energy into itself from the cosmos. Therefrom it will move upward to be met and reacted to by the positive spiraling energy moving downward from within. The measure of an entity’s level of ray activity is the locus wherein the south pole outer energy has been met by the inner spiraling positive energy.
As an entity grows more polarized this locus will move upwards. This phenomenon has been called by your peoples the kundalini. However, it may better be thought of as the meeting place of cosmic and inner, shall we say, vibratory understanding. To attempt to raise the locus of this meeting without realizing the metaphysical principles of magnetism upon which this depends is to invite great imbalance.
It seems to me like this presence you felt helped in activating the kundalini energy within you, raising it up to perhaps the 6th energy centre, the indigo ray. As Ra says this can invite great imbalance in one who is not ready, and it seems you have experienced some imbalance since the initiation event, but this presence must have thought you would be able to handle it and indeed it seems you have managed to keep a handle on things, which is admirable
.A greater calling to the light can indeed cause a corresponding call to darkness:
Quote:72.7 ▶ Questioner: We have here, I believe, a very important principle with respect to the Law of One. You have stated that the attitude of the individual is of paramount importance for the Orion entity to be able to be effective. Would you please explain how this mechanism works with respect to the Law of One and why the attitude of the entity is of paramount importance and why this allows for action by the Orion entity?
Ra: I am Ra. The Law of Confusion or Free Will is utterly paramount in the workings of the infinite creation. That which is intended has as much intensity of attraction to the polar opposite as the intensity of the intention or desire.
Thus those whose desires are shallow or transitory experience only ephemeral configurations of what might be called the magical circumstance. There is a turning point, a fulcrum which swings as a mind/body/spirit complex tunes its will to service. If this will and desire is for service to others the corresponding polarity will be activated. In the circumstance of this group there are three such wills acting as one with the instrument in the, shall we say, central position of fidelity to service. This is as it must be for the balance of the working and the continuance of the contact. Our vibratory complex is one-pointed in these workings also and our will to serve is also of some degree of purity. This has created the attraction of the polar opposite which you experience.
We may note that such a configuration of free will, one-pointed in service to others, also has the potential for the alerting of a great mass of light strength. This positive light strength, however, operates also under free will and must be invoked. We could not speak to this and shall not guide you, for the nature of this contact is such that the purity of your free will must, above all things, be preserved. Thus you wend your way through experiences discovering those biases which may be helpful.
But I think it's important to remember that you are only in danger so long as you believe yourself to be. It is well to recognize (uh oh, im slipping in to Ra talk) that the Orion other-self as an aspect of self and keep the faith that all will be well. Ritual practice or whatever else you feel is necessary can help strengthen your faith.
Quote:32.1
[...]the means of protection against any negative or debilitating influence for those upon the positive path was demonstrated by this instrument to a very great degree. Consider, if you will, the potentials that this particular occurrence had for negative influences to enter the instrument. This instrument thought upon the Creator in its solitude and in actions with other-self, continually praised and gave thanksgiving to the Creator for the experiences it was having. This in turn allowed this particular entity to radiate to the other-self such energies as became a catalyst for an opening and strengthening of the other-self’s ability to function in a more positively polarized state. [b]Thus we see protection being very simple. Give thanksgiving for each moment. See the self and the other-self as Creator. Open the heart. Always know the light and praise it. This is all the protection necessary.[b]
Ra's mention in the last quote about "calling on light strength" points towards another avenue through which one can call for aid when they feel as though they are in dire straights.
Welcome to the forums my friend!
RE: Activation - sunnysideup - 07-01-2014
Greetings YourOtherSelf,
welcome to the forum and thank you for sharing your amazing story.
I've been hearing a high pitched sound and seeing green and purple patterns ever since I started meditating (I started a few months back). I'm not sure what to make of it myself yet, but it's not making me feel uncomfortable or anything like that so it's fine by me. I guess I just need to have patience and faith that I'll figure it out when I'm ready. Anywho, I think you've come to the right place for your questions and I hope you will find some answers. Good luck.
1Love
RE: Activation - YourOtherSelf - 07-01-2014
Thank you for the informative reply Spaced, you have given me much to reflect upon.
The sound was similar to an old school dial up modem.
(07-01-2014, 06:37 AM)sunnysideup Wrote: Greetings YourOtherSelf,
welcome to the forum and thank you for sharing your amazing story.
I've been hearing a high pitched sound and seeing green and purple patterns ever since I started meditating (I started a few months back). I'm not sure what to make of it myself yet, but it's not making me feel uncomfortable or anything like that so it's fine by me. I guess I just need to have patience and faith that I'll figure it out when I'm ready. Anywho, I think you've come to the right place for your questions and I hope you will find some answers. Good luck.
1Love
Thank you for the warm welcome. Have you ever tried manipulating these lights you see?
RE: Activation - Patrick - 07-01-2014
(06-30-2014, 09:25 PM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: ...This time all at once I felt an "electric" shock running through my body
...It's very hard to describe and I'm hoping someone has went through something similar
...It felt like I was being ripped apart on a molecular level
...I opened my eyes and everything looked different. It all had a red hue and was heavily "pixelated"...
...I believe what I experienced with the electricity was my "activation"...
I'm curious what exactly is being "activated" during an activation. Have other wanderers encountered something they believe to mark the point of their activation?
I went through something similar in 2011. I believe this happens when we accept a new configuration in our energy centers.
Possibly, this is part of the plan for the incarnation. Once we awaken spiritually, we can be activated. Because we reached a ready state out of our own freewill. The details are probably very specific to each wanderer.
It could be our 4d energy body that is activated. Then we are like any dual-activated third- and fourth-density person.
I seem to remember that Ra said the dual-activated had an easier understanding of 4d concepts. I seem to recall my intuition being much clearer on these concepts after what happened in 2011. Now they seem really obvious to me.
All speculations on my part of course.
(06-30-2014, 09:25 PM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: "Ra: ...The duration and imagery used varies depending upon the subconscious expectations of the Wanderer which is experiencing this opportunity for activation..."
This makes the experience different for each person. My experience was no where near as potent as yours.
(06-30-2014, 09:25 PM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: Do any wanders on a service to others path believe they have been contacted by Orion entities?
I feel my vibrations enter in contact with negative vibrations from time to time at night, but I could not say if these are Orion entities. Besides creaking of the floor around my bed, I have no other physical awareness of it, I don't have any visual awareness of them. I just feel the energetic influence on my energy body (aura).
(06-30-2014, 09:25 PM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: I'm also curious if anyone has any information about seeing purple patterns of light during their awakening.
Purple light per se, I think I can remember it happening at least once. What I remember most was seeing patterns of colors and symbols swirling in fractals.
Thanks for sharing your story !
L/L
Patrick
RE: Activation - Fastidious Emanations - 07-01-2014
Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answer?
RE: Activation - AnthroHeart - 07-01-2014
I've had many little activations. They usually result in me hallucinating a vision or sound. Or thinking I was the Creator.
I swear once I thought I was in 4D already and that events were responding as feedback to me.
RE: Activation - YourOtherSelf - 07-01-2014
(07-01-2014, 03:36 PM)dynamic equilibrium Wrote: Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answer?
To what question/questions are you referring too?
If "I" in fact know the answers to my queries than I must have forgotten them. =/
(07-01-2014, 04:17 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I've had many little activations. They usually result in me hallucinating a vision or sound. Or thinking I was the Creator.
I swear once I thought I was in 4D already and that events were responding as feedback to me.
Thank you for sharing.
I happen come across your post about guilt. Something I left out of my initial post was that these events began directly after we released a very large blockage of guilt.
Is there a "term" for when an entity allows a second entity to incarnate along with it?
RE: Activation - third-density-being - 07-01-2014
Hello my Other-Self
(06-30-2014, 09:25 PM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: One evening, after a series of unfolding coincidences, I knew something was going to happen that evening. "What" exactly I wasn't sure but I knew it had to do with a choice I had made earlier that day.
In face what You've wrote after this I am really curious what was your choice at that time. I hope it's not very personal and You will be able to share it.
(06-30-2014, 09:25 PM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: (...)
I felt a presence of sorts trying to communicate with me, and for the first time in my life heard a voice inside my head other than my own.
"Everything will be ok."
(...)
Finally, after calming myself down and resuming my meditation I felt the presence again. This time all at once I felt an "electric" shock running through my body, mixed with "screeching" sounds.
I'm unsure if I resisted enough to make it stop, or if that was just the first wave ending. Again the voice came back, reassuring me "everything would be ok" and that "it would only take ten seconds".
After the weeks I had been through leading up to this event, I learned there was no point in resisting this process (whatever it was that was happening to me) and allowed "it" to continue to do what it was doing. I resumed meditation.
Again the electrical feeling came back
(...)
It felt like I was being ripped apart on a molecular level. It finally stopped.
I opened my eyes and everything looked different. It all had a red hue and was heavily "pixelated". I looked down at my arm and could see an "alien" looking hand inside my own. Whatever was speaking to me told me (this time NOT with a voice but an understanding or knowing) that "it" was in my blood.
(...)
Strange things continued.
I began "talking" with deceased relatives. Some lights I used to "play" with as a child returned. They would form different geometric patterns in my vision (I still experience these lights but only when I choose to see them) but we still have no idea what purpose these lights serve.
One night the purple lights came back, but this time my whole vision was created by them. (They are like tiny orbs or grape like pixels that group together to form images.) Everything I could see was formed by them. They formed the shape of an "eye" and I was getting closer and closer to it until I passed through the eye itself. It was the eye of Ra or Horus, although at the time I wasn't aware of that.
After my consciousness passed through this "eye" there was a vision of complete destruction. Explosions, mushroom clouds, ect., then I started traveling through space, moving forward past many different stars and planets. It didn't matter if my eyes were opened or shut, it's all I could see. (all created with patterns of the tiny purple lights) In the distance ahead I could see this planet "I" appeared to be heading towards. Finally after my vision landed on this certain planet my eyesight returned to normal.
The whole experience was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. I remember passing one planet in particular that had huge "rings" around it, it took my breath away. After that day I would get overwhelmed with some kind of information transfer. It would get to the point where I'd have to ask for a break as something was always trying to communicate with me.
I think that above is THE most astonishing "thing" I've ever read. I personally NEVER had an experience that would be even close to what You have wrote. Therefore I'm afraid that I won't be much of help for You in understanding it.
I've bolded parts, where You described things that were done to You. Especially: "it would only take ten seconds".
To be honest I do not know what to make out of this. You were not asked if You accept it - it was done - as I understood - without your conscious consent. All You could do is either resist it or allow "it" to happened. It's not Service to Others way (as I understand it).
I am very sceptical regarding all non-physical experience and I was wondering if what You've experience might been induced upon You.
I dont know if it is proper for me to write it here, but in the past I've met two videos with title: "Mind Control Victims Testify at Presidential Commission for the Study of Bioethical Issues 2011". Here You can watch both videos:
1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnqMo7z4nJY
2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JddjErGArZE
- and below I'm pasting statement of one person named Stephen Hopitect which can be found in second video in time frame: 17:30 - 20:31. He's describing what are capability of microvawe technology:
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I just want to give also want to give thanks and gratitude for this Commission actually being here and being able to bear witness to our testimony to us as well. I think it’s a credit to Obama, even though I’m against a lot of his policies that he would actually create this type of Commission. I do hope that it goes beyond these walls though and actually creates some type of implementation for change. I can speak for hours about my own personal experiences and some of the more modern versions of projects that several people talked about. My harassment started back in 1997, more from a remote influencing perspective, I made contacts in different military industrial complexes, basically different agencies, I had received microwave harassment actually on and off for a number of years, where they were trying to project images of suicide and various states of basically emotional mood management. This was confirmed to me in 2001 by a contact of a national security agency. He worked in… he still, I’m much more (inaudible) at this point but I talked to him recently, he worked in communications intelligence division of NSA for 25 years and this is right after 9/11, with my doctor. When he came to meet with me, I had a part-time job at the time, and he basically was working at a kind of like, in that division he was working, he was examining different types of abuses that were going on in the NSA, and he stated to me personally that my attention fell within the realm of potential abuse, in the agency that he was investigating.
At this point, he is still involved in the agency. I can provide his name and information more in private though, because I don’t want to get in trouble for over-disclosure of someone who’s still active in that agency, especially with the technology they have. Anyway, he basically also confirmed to me that what I experienced in terms of some, just the tip of the iceberg, a part of my experience is with the emotional projection, he said that that was very common and that they were using microwaves because they had taken really advanced EEG images of people of people in different emotional states, not those digital brain wave signatures, emotional clusters of people feeling different emotional states. They said that they could take those digital brain wave signatures, piggyback on a certain bandwidth of microwaves as a carrier wave and they can target people worldwide without need for a local transmitter. He confirmed all that to me and said they used satellite to target anybody they want and it’s a very common procedure within this portion of NSA. Which is horrendous that they actually let this going on. So I think the idea of the non-consensual abuse needs to be extended to more the covert military establishment and then later on, 2003, when I was getting more advanced projections were like multi-layered not just from my conscious feelings but into my unconscious, he said that they were trying to fine tune their projections on me to see how I could block it out, because I work more in the consciousness field of meditation, alternative spirituality, so I do different techniques to tell people to block out some of these frequencies by taking control of their own bio-platonic fields. I’ve also made contact with many scientists over the years, undergone scientists who used to work in various intelligence areas, I’ve also confirmed this and much much beyond technologies, where they use longitudinal electro-magnetic wave technologies. Technology that Tessler first developed, which also could be used in alternative healing, I’m also aware, we have a friend in upstate who’s been curing people of different illnesses using this technology but he worked in the Pentagon for decades and confirmed some of this technology is also being used for more of the nefarious activities. I can go on for hours, but I’ll probably provide written testimony. Thank you.
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I'm sorry for taking so much space here but as I search for every possible explanation, I cannot ignore what was said in those videos - especially that those people were desperate.
I think I've puttet all above in my post, because what You've wrote is simply unbelievable for me.
I apologize for my scepticism but it's/he's my faithful companion since I've entered patch of the mind many, many years ago.
In my humble opinion We should not judge our experiences to lightly as those of which Ra spoke regarding awakening. We should consider all other possibilities - but to do that we require knowledge. That's why I permitted myself to put in my comment information about "mind control" and technology used to accomplish it.
Still, I hope your experience had nothing to do with that and it's only my scepticism shouting in my head.
Take Care
RE: Activation - AnthroHeart - 07-01-2014
I don't know if I've been targeted for that brainwave stuff, because I've felt out of my mind many times.
RE: Activation - YourOtherSelf - 07-01-2014
Navigating around these messages is hard for me using my current device. Forgive me for not using proper methods of replying back to your post.
"" In face what You've wrote after this I am really
curious what was your choice at that time. I
hope it's not very personal and You will be
able to share it.""
Instead of going "home". I made a conscious choice to stay here, believing I could assist others in some manner. I'm pretty sure those back "home" can no longer interact/or see me like they used too.
This was before I encountered the Ra material, so part of me believed I was in fact going crazy. I've put together many pieces of the puzzle since being introduced to the Ra material. It made me feel less alone with everything at the time
:"" I think that above is THE most astonishing
"thing" I've ever read. I personally NEVER had
an experience that would be even close to
what You have wrote. Therefore I'm afraid that
I won't be much of help for You in
understanding it.""
You are of more help than you think. I've been through allot in my life and would not wish what I went through on my worst enemy (if I had one).
"" I've bolded parts, where You described things
that were done to You . Especially: "it would
only take ten seconds".
To be honest I do not know what to make out
of this. You were not asked if You accept it -
it was done - as I understood - without your
conscious consent. All You could do is either
resist it or allow "it" to happened. It's not
Service to Others way (as I understand it).""
I've never looked at the experience in that light.
The only thing I left out was my request to "see" the entity, and it responded "not yet". The process didn't seem forced upon me.
":" I'm sorry for taking so much space here but as
I search for every possible explanation, I
cannot ignore what was said in those videos -
especially that those people were desperate.
I think I've puttet all above in my post,
because what You've wrote is simply
unbelievable for me.
I apologize for my scepticism but it's/he's my
faithful companion since I've entered patch of
the mind many, many years ago.:":"
I will check out the video when time allows. Trust me that I understand/feel your scepticism brother. It's hard for my mind to accept some of the things I've experienced first hand.
I've left out many details and other experiences. I don't want the majority of what I described to be viewed in a "negative" manner. Many other experiences after this were amazingly "positive."
At the time these events were troubling but that was a necessary part of my self growth. I'm truly in a better place mentally/spiritually after these events. It is hard however, to carry a "normal" life anymore.
I often feel very alone with my thoughts. It's hard to communicate with others when your view of the world its drastically different.
I'm hoping to alleviate this lonely feeling by joining in the community here.
(07-01-2014, 07:11 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I don't know if I've been targeted for that brainwave stuff, because I've felt out of my mind many times.
Ditto my friend. =P
RE: Activation - Parsons - 07-01-2014
(07-01-2014, 08:49 PM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: I often feel very alone with my thoughts. It's hard to communicate with others when your view of the world its drastically different.
I'm hoping to alleviate this lonely feeling by joining in the community here.
You are not alone, my friend. This feeling of alienation is common among us. Honestly, being a part of this community has helped, but it has only 'put a dent' in it for me due to the sheer amount of time spent out in the world.
Welcome
RE: Activation - YourOtherSelf - 07-01-2014
(07-01-2014, 10:54 PM)Parsons Wrote:(07-01-2014, 08:49 PM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: I often feel very alone with my thoughts. It's hard to communicate with others when your view of the world its drastically different.
I'm hoping to alleviate this lonely feeling by joining in the community here.
You are not alone, my friend. This feeling of alienation is common among us. Honestly, being a part of this community has helped, but it has only 'put a dent' in it for me due to the sheer amount of time spent out in the world.
Welcome
They don't call 1 the loneliest number for nothing.
/namasalute
RE: Activation - third-density-being - 07-02-2014
(07-01-2014, 08:49 PM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: Instead of going "home". I made a conscious choice to stay here, believing I could assist others in some manner.
As I understand above, either You have spaceship and You decided not to fly away or .... You decided not to committing suicide.
(07-01-2014, 08:49 PM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: I'm pretty sure those back "home" can no longer interact/or see me like they used too.
I'm pretty sure that your current state (of-this-density) is a temporary state and when You regain your proper body/density, the "only" change perceptible for your "home" will be an additional experience/service that You collected/made here, on this plane of existence. As I currently understand Ra's teaching/learning, it will be reflecting in your polarity/harmonization/level of balancing distortions.
(07-01-2014, 08:49 PM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: I often feel very alone with my thoughts. It's hard to communicate with others when your view of the world its drastically different.
That's what I would like to ask You. Aside from visions of purple light-shapes, You mentioned "talking with deceased".
My questions - how is your everyday life? What are You able to perceive and feel? How do You understand your Self, other Selves and surrounding You, current reality? Are You able to perceive simultaneously other realities?
I'm asking all above, because I would like to better understand You and your "condition" (pardon this not very fortunate term, although best I can use while being sure You will understand my query).
RE: Activation - YourOtherSelf - 07-03-2014
Quote: As I understand above, eitherYou have spaceshipand You decidednot to fly away or .... You decidednot tocommitting suicide.
That was part of the confusion for me. I didn't understand how exactly "it" was going to happen. It is very hard to explain the methods of communication, or how it feels in general during the moment. This was in the beginning and at the time it was very new and confusing/scary for me.
This was also a very emotional exchange for everyone involved in my vicinity. I happened to be at work when the above scenario was talking place. The entire thing had a very "dreamlike" feel to it as the synchronicity (I had never heard of the term then, nor did I have any point of reference to understand what was happening around me) was palpable.
Looking backwards on the situation, it seems perhaps the subconscious of people around me was being "influenced" to communicate back with part of myself? However, if I attempted to reply back consciously, the person would be very confused at what I was talking about and only seemed to notice one layer of what was exchanged. If I "pushed" the issue, there would be a very uncomfortable energy exchange between us.
As an example.
I remember asking how "they" were communicating with me (I asked this inside my own head) immediately after asking this a conversation developed between co-workers about radio controlled cars. Specifically, how if we were to each purchase one, we would need to make sure that each of us got cars operating on different frequencies, or else all the cars would be inoperable.
(If anyone has any insights on the above "metaphor" please share them. Sometimes I become wrapped up inside my own subjective experience and need another perspective to "view" from)
The above may seem like simple coincidence to most but for one engaged in such an exchange you know differently.
The overall message was I could leave if I so chose. I don't/didn't know whether it was going to be by "craft" or not. After making my mental decision to stay instead of leave, we seemed to experience a mental "life review" of sorts. I began to cry. Not vocally but tears were running down my face. I attempted to hide it from my coworkers and finally after glancing over at them I noticed they all had silent tears falling from the eyes. I said that I was sorry and very confused. Around this time we all went out separate ways for lunch and after coming back nothing about the tears or anything else was spoken of.
A few days later certain non metaphysical events led to me abandoning my job and I've never spoken to (or contacted) any of them about the events of that day.
I've have thought about suicide numerous times and I'm not proud of that fact. In all honestly the only thing that prevented me from actually going through with it back then was the effect that choice would have had on those who love me.
I really didn't expect to reply with such a long answer here. The majority of these events have not been pondered over by myself in quite some time.
Thank you for this opportunity, it feels good to talk about these things. I plan on replying to your other questions too as I'm sure they'll hit on some important areas for me.
/namasalute
RE: Activation - YourOtherSelf - 07-03-2014
Quote:I'm prettysure that your current state(of-this-density) is a temporarystateand when You regain your proper body/density, the"only" changeperceptible for your "home" will be an additional experience/service that You collected/made here, on this plane of existence.As I currently understand Ra's teaching/learning, it will be reflecting in your polarity/harmonization/level ofbalancing distortions.
I actually meant something entirely different when using the words interact/see. These things are hard to explain without using metaphors. I imagine because of the "as above so below" nature of existence.
It is entertaining for us to placate our minds with movies/TV shows and it provides us with an escape from our daily life.
Some TV shows/movies are done well enough that you'll feel the very same emotions the actors are experiencing on screen. You'll relate to the cast. When characters you've grown to know "die" on the show, you'll "experience" a loss. When the protagonist "wins" you'll share in that elation with them.
Some shows can be an invaluable learning tool for children and adults. They can teach us morals/lessons that have a profound effect on our consciousness.
In many ways it felt like after my "choice" the curtain closed and the show was over. "I" had learned the lesson part of me needed/incarnated to learn. Or perhaps I had cleared distortions that needed cleared.
Growing up and into my later years as an adult, I carried allot of guilt with me over an accident that occurred in our family.
RE: Activation - third-density-being - 07-03-2014
Firstly I would like to write that mentioned by me "spaceship" was an joke-attempt to soften overtone of my conclusion regarding your possible decision of not commtting suicide. After thinking it through I have to write it was quite poor attempt. I'll refrain my self from similar actions in the future.
I can try to support/serve You as far as I can understand You and your situation. Since I'm mind oriented, I require knowledge to do that. That being said, I would like to ensure You that I do not intend to intrude your privacy in any way - therefore please share only what You feel comfortable with. When I will ask You about things You do not want to speak of, please do not force your Self to do that - just inform me You do not want to share. I will accept it fully.
(07-03-2014, 01:01 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: That was part of the confusion for me. I didn't understand how exactly "it" was going to happen. It is very hard to explain the methods of communication, or how it feels in general during the moment. This was in the beginning and at the time it was very new and confusing/scary for me.
Any way You are able to describe "communication" You are refering to will be of aid for my understanding.
I would like to add that feeling of being "scary" is not what (as I understand it) positive contacts should looks like. What You are describing is a massive experience in very short period of time, which was simply overwhelming for You. Based on You first post here which began this thread, I have an impression that it was induced (as I wrote before). I still do not know what to think about it. In this matter I am confused.
(07-03-2014, 01:01 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: Looking backwards on the situation, it seems perhaps the subconscious of people around me was being "influenced" to communicate back with part of myself? However, if I attempted to reply back consciously, the person would be very confused at what I was talking about and only seemed to notice one layer of what was exchanged. If I "pushed" the issue, there would be a very uncomfortable energy exchange between us.
As an example.
In above quote I've bolded those key informations which was not included in example given afterwards. Could You please describe situation when such communication with Other-Self subconscious took place, what was the information received by You and what was content/wording of your conversation while You were "pushing the subject"? It would clarify a lot for me.
(07-03-2014, 01:01 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: I remember asking how "they" were communicating with me (I asked this inside my own head) immediately after asking this a conversation developed between co-workers about radio controlled cars. Specifically, how if we were to each purchase one, we would need to make sure that each of us got cars operating on different frequencies, or else all the cars would be inoperable.
(If anyone has any insights on the above "metaphor" please share them. Sometimes I become wrapped up inside my own subjective experience and need another perspective to "view" from)
I personally understand it quite literally. That is everyone of Us has his/her own, Unique frequence of (to name/label it is true challenge for me) vibration/beingness/Self. In this last case (Self) it came to my mind that since we (and everything that is) are "Parts" of one infinite Creator and each Part vibrates in unique/different way, that when everything will become One again, all spectrum of vibrations will be once again One/Whole Music/Creator.
(07-03-2014, 01:01 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: The above may seem like simple coincidence to most but for one engaged in such an exchange you know differently.
There are those who do not belive in coincidences and claims that everything has it's purpose/reason. Others perceive everything as a coincidences and claims it is our "work" to create/generate coincidences our-Selves which should serve us.
We are in reality where everything has it's "flip side" - as It has to have since we are here to make a choice. Each choice is good/proper, since in the end we all will be united into One Creator. (yes, I wrote it, but to be honest I am still learning to perceive that way).
(07-03-2014, 01:01 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: The overall message was I could leave if I so chose. I don't/didn't know whether it was going to be by "craft" or not. After making my mental decision to stay instead of leave, we seemed to experience a mental "life review" of sorts. I began to cry. Not vocally but tears were running down my face. I attempted to hide it from my coworkers and finally after glancing over at them I noticed they all had silent tears falling from the eyes. I said that I was sorry and very confused. Around this time we all went out separate ways for lunch and after coming back nothing about the tears or anything else was spoken of.
Two bolded parts.
1.
You wrote "we" - as all Beings in the room - You and your co-workers? How did You knew they've experienced it? Only by noticed later tears of theirs? Have You had an access to their "life reviews"?
And finally - in short, without any private details - what did You exactly ment by "life review"? Could You write more about this experience?
2.
You spoke? Did You actually verbalized this sentence? If yes, what was the reactions of Others? Didi they knew what You were refering to? Did they understood what You were talking about?
(07-03-2014, 01:01 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: A few days later certain non metaphysical events led to me abandoning my job and I've never spoken to (or contacted) any of them about the events of that day.
Question to bolded part - why not? You didn't want to (as an active act of will)? Or it simply "happend" - as everyone goes his/her way without the "need" for contact?
(07-03-2014, 01:01 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: I've have thought about suicide numerous times and I'm not proud of that fact. In all honestly the only thing that prevented me from actually going through with it back then was the effect that choice would have had on those who love me.
You are not alone my Friend in this experience.
(07-03-2014, 01:01 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: I really didn't expect to reply with such a long answer here. The majority of these events have not been pondered over by myself in quite some time.
[b]Thank you for this opportunity, it feels good to talk about these things.[/b] I plan on replying to your other questions too as I'm sure they'll hit on some important areas for me.
/namasalute
First bolded part - as for my standards your reply was quite short
Second bolded part - it is my pleasure/honor/duty.
I would like to add something to all above.
For a long time I wanted to experience what You've described. I've perceived it as some kind of fulfilment of "Self" and never reached further with my thoughts (as "what would be afterwards"). What You've shared showed me how in fact little thoughts I've putted to it and You've disillusioned me in this matter/issue. Thank You.
I can see You are confused and those experienced alienated You - maybe even more that I am alienated at this time. I think that if I were to experienced all this, I would never "get back" to this reality again. I think I would simply go crazy/insane. Now I look at it (not being able to experience it) as form of "protection" of my Self. Quite fascinating point of view for me to be honest
And finally - I do not think that I will be able to help You as You are expecting to be helped/aid. I'm too down-to-earth (with the way I understand my Self). All I can offer are my question in attempt to understand your experiences in scants frames of my understanding. I only hope that my questions will (somehow) help You in answering your questions to your Self. In this process I am merely a tool of your efforts/work and I humbly accept it.
Best I have in me for You.
RE: Activation - YourOtherSelf - 07-03-2014
Quote:After thinking it through I have to write it was quite poor attempt. I'll refrain my self from similar actions in the future.
Don't refrain, your attempt actually hit right on the mark. I was thinking along the same line when everything was happening.
Even though I've experienced allot of darkness I've also experienced the polar opposite. I'm of the belief that getting to know this darkness in such an intimate manner is what allows me to express the polar opposite. These were my shadows after all and I made the decision to face them.
Quote: Aside from visions of purple light-shapes, You mentioned "talking with deceased"
I wanted to briefly speak more about the lights. They appear in my vision only (others don't see them when I attempt to bring them into focus) under my will/volition.
I'm hoping someone can assist me with any ideas what grade could "be" in relation to the energy centers spoken off by Ra
Something possibly related is all my life I've suffered from severe migraines. I've had them since I was 4 years old (i remember seeing these same lights then and considered them my "friends").
Lately my migraines have increased to everyday, normally upon waking.
"It" looks like a (small) swirling vortex of tiny purple pixels. Only once did they change into a "vision" of the eye of Ra/Horus.
Speaking with the "deceased" happened s few times with certain family members who have passed and possibly others none relation. They explained to me how things "work" where they are in very lucid dreams, and then connecting to events in "waking" life.
Sometimes they come "through" me. It's hard to explain. For instance once over the phone (when someone came through) the person on the other end of the phone heard the voice of an "old lady" even though it was me speaking. This is a boy of a long story so I'll skip over it got now.
Quote: My questions - how is your everyday life?
I imagine just the same as others. For instance today was spent outside cutting grass for a few neighbors sweating in the sunshine. It was a very grounding experience =)
Quote: What are You able to perceive and feel?
In general I feel a wide array of emotions. From feeling like I could vibrate right out of my body experiencing "love" for no certain reason.
I perceive/feel an intelligence that permeates EVERYTHING. I am in communion with this intelligence at times and it "communicates" back.
Quote:How do You understand your Self, other Selves and surrounding You, current reality?
This is a very complex question for me to ponder. I understand through observation.
During another "stage" of this whole experience I felt what I've read being referred to as complete ego death or collapse.
If I had heard of these concepts prior to my "transition' it would have made the process less "frightening". I was literally going in blind, and perhaps that's the way it had to be.
I no longer attempt to label "myself" this or that as I literally see/feel myself in everything. My identity has been "rebuilt" from the ground up. When the boundary between me and the outside world dropped, it took a long time to establish a comfort zone..
For instance once I cried for 15 minutes because I had hit a butterfly with my car. You could imagine what affect watching the nightly news would have without working out many distortions. I've always been a bit of a softy but for even me it was extreme empathy.
Quote: Are You able
to perceive simultaneously other realities
I don't see other realities in the all encompassing manner that I see this reality, but I do see/feel certain patterns or connections inherent in some other realms that appear to be connected or stemming from our "world".
Some of these appear as precognitive predictions of future events. Some of these also appear to be manifestaytions of my conscious will. These have "proved" to myself that consciousness operates in a non-local manner.
And I exercise caution when viewing other self's in such a manner that my projections may influence them.
Quote: I'm asking all above, because I would like to better understand You and your"condition" (pardon this not very fortunate term, although best I can use while being sure You will understand my query).
No worries friend! It would be impossible for me to misconstrue *condition* was a valid word choice as any other. =P
RE: Activation - YourOtherSelf - 07-04-2014
Oh no!
I lost a lengthy post to internet gremlins..
/namasadface
RE: Activation - YourOtherSelf - 07-04-2014
Quote: And finally - I do not think that I will be able to help You as You are expecting to be helped/aid. I'm too down-to-earth (with the way I understand my Self)
I hold no expectations. =P
I'd prefer to say I'm looking for "methods of expressing myself given the current limitations this medium provides".
You're assisting me more than you think. Just simply discussing these events/concepts with another helps.
Quote: I think that if
I were to experienced all this, I would never "get back" to this reality again. I think I would simply go crazy/insane. Now I look at it (not being able to experience it) as form of "protection" of my Self. Quite fascinating point of view for me to be honest
I believe with a solid framework you would do just fine navigating your way back. You learn to keep one foot in and one foot out. =P
Valid insights about "protection"
Quote:For a long time I wanted to experience what You've described
Perhaps you will if that is your desire.
Quote: I've perceived it as some kind of fulfilment of "Self" and never reached further with my thoughts (as "what would be afterwards"). What You've shared showed me how in fact little thoughts I've putted to it and You've disillusioned me in this matter/issue.
Please do remember the brunt of these events happened for years ago and I'm thankful for having gone through them. Everyone has their own path and my self is fulfilled these days.
Quote:YourOtherSelf Wrote:
A few days later certain non metaphysical events led to me abandoning my job and I've
never spoken to (or contacted) any of them about the events of that day.
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Question to bolded part - why not? You didn't want to (as an active act of will)? Or it simply "happend" - as everyone goes his/her way without the "need" for contact?
Later that evening is when the electricity "thing" and "voices" happened.
I spent the following week in a mental health ward after being released (on my 30th birthday) I didn't go back to work and needed time to "heal". I'm embarrassed in some ways to confront them about everything.
Quote: .
You spoke ? Did You actually verbalized this sentence? If yes, what was the reactions of Others? Didi they knew what You were refering to? Did they understood what You were
talking about?
In my head and outwardly, I remember looking at "Chuck" and saying "what's going on? ".and nothing was returned but a teary eyed glance.
Quote:You wrote "we" - as all Beings in the room - You and your co-workers? How did You knew they've experienced it?
I actually meant to say *I* here not *we*. Freudian slip perhaps? If you reread with *I* instead it will make sense.
Quote:And finally - in short, without any private details - what did You exactly ment by "life review"
It wasn't like sitting and watching a movie. More of an instantaneous flooding of past experiences, good and bad.
Those you've loved. Those you thought you were loving but were in fact hurting or even holding them back.
Understanding even if you could go back in time and make different choices you wouldn't because every single event shaped you into who you've become
RE: Activation - Steppingfeet - 07-04-2014
Greetings YourOtherSelf,
Thanks for sharing aspects of the tumultuous journey that have lead to this juncture in your journey.
(06-30-2014, 09:25 PM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: I knew I wasn't crazy. Thankfully something seemed to be directing me to certain information. The library became a hangout for me, I stumbled into the work of Carl Jung. Then later researching the "eye" in my vision, I stumbled into the Ra material.
If I may ask, was it in the library that you stumbled on the Ra Material, or elsewhere?
Regarding your experience of "activation", I had an unusual experience twelve years ago. Memory is a bit fuzzy at this point but I recall waking in the early AM hours and feeling this... I don't know... clear, body-wide electrical energy permeating my experience. I could suddenly almost "see" the anatomy or physiology of my entire body, especially the skeletal structure, like I had x-ray vision, so to speak. I don't recall it lasting long, but it certainly stood out!
I've never understood precisely why it happened, but upon asking a very good channel about what happened, I received the reply:
"We are not usually of the disposition to speak to that which has not been spoken, yet, clearly in this instance we can suggest that this was an indicator, an initiatory experience that will find further repetition and permutation within the life pattern in the days to come."
In general, perhaps then one could speculate that your experience was, as you already suspect, an activation, a crossing of a boundary of threshold into a new stage of growth.
Love/Light, GLB
RE: Activation - BrownEye - 07-04-2014
(06-30-2014, 09:25 PM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: I'm also curious if anyone has any information about seeing purple patterns of light during their awakening.
I assume it is the brow chakra activation. I still deal with throat chakra activation which has me dealing with "blue" frequencies mostly visual, sometimes audio as a musical sound inside of the head.
My experience involves reception of technical information, while yours may be more connected to "seeing" in multiple frequencies and dimensions.
Quote:Is there a "term" for when an entity allows a second entity to incarnate along with it?It is possible to be a subincarnate, and see your true form as an energetic overlay. Subincarnate concept can be imagined as your actual incarnation is another physical body temporarily in stasis. For some that means another body on a craft orbiting this planet. For me it means that I am awake in another frequency, and I am aware of this other "self", sometimes "seeing" through its eyes.
The static you hear makes me think you are not integrating properly, and might be able to find a good QHHT practitioner to aid with that.
Quote:I remember asking how "they" were communicating with me (I asked this inside my own head) immediately after asking this a conversation developed between co-workers about radio controlled cars. Specifically, how if we were to each purchase one, we would need to make sure that each of us got cars operating on different frequencies, or else all the cars would be inoperable.I get the idea that you are partially functioning as a monitoring device, and the issues with signal integration are causing the noise and static.
Quote:Something possibly related is all my life I've suffered from severe migraines. I've had them since I was 4 years old (i remember seeing these same lights then and considered them my "friends").Again, signal integration.
Lately my migraines have increased to everyday, normally upon waking.
"It" looks like a (small) swirling vortex of tiny purple pixels. Only once did they change into a "vision" of the eye of Ra/Horus.
RE: Activation - YourOtherSelf - 07-04-2014
Quote:Thanks for sharing aspects of the tumultuousjourney that have lead to this juncture in your
journey
Thank you for the opportunity to discuss it. I have two friends I have discussed almost all my experiences with. but they are more moving to another state now.
I've learned not all people are as accepting in general. In the beginning I wasn't as articulate in describing "things" and probably sounded a bit loony in my attempts.
Family members become concerned for my sanity and I understand it's only because they care about me. It just gets old always "hidding" things from them.
Quote: If I may ask, was it in the library that you stumbled on the Ra Material, or elsewhere?
I did not stumble into the Ra material at the library. At that point in time I was reading anything I could by Jung, and also anything I could find about aliens/ufo's.
The Ra material was introduced to me a bit later. I was "researching" the vision I had of the "eye" and came across information on the Illuminati and "the powers that be".
I can see now most of that was fear/control based. At some point in that process I came into contact with the Hidden Hand dialog, and they mentioned the Ra material in it. I've always been fascinated with the pyramids and Egyptian mythology in general.
Quote: I
could suddenly almost "see" the anatomy or physiology of my entire body, especially the skeletal structure, like I had x-ray vision, so to speak. I don't recall it lasting long, but it certainly stood out!
Exactly. It was like seeing through my skin. I could see the "blood" circulating through my body, and my skeletal structure took on a unique form. =P
I've been shocked before with electric appliances, chords, etc before, however, this electric shock/shocks seemed way more potent and encompassed all of my being.
Quote:I've never understood precisely why it happened, but upon asking a very good channel about what happened, I received the reply:
"We are not usually of the disposition to
speak to that which has not been spoken, yet, clearly in this instance we can suggest that this was an indicator, an initiatory experience that will find further repetition and permutation within the life pattern in the days
to come."
Interesting. I'm having trouble "digesting" the message fully, so I'll muse over this for awhile. Thank you for sharing your experience with me.
Namasalute!
RE: Activation - third-density-being - 07-04-2014
(07-04-2014, 08:44 AM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: Greetings YourOtherSelf,
Even though You've addressed your Words to YourOtherSelf, I would like to reply to Them.
(07-04-2014, 08:44 AM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: Regarding your experience of "activation", I had an unusual experience twelve years ago. Memory is a bit fuzzy at this point but I recall waking in the early AM hours and feeling this... I don't know... clear, body-wide electrical energy permeating my experience. I could suddenly almost "see" the anatomy or physiology of my entire body, especially the skeletal structure, like I had x-ray vision, so to speak. I don't recall it lasting long, but it certainly stood out!
I would like to ask You about your reactions/experiences as well as "state" of your awareness/consciousness, [I would be very grateful if native English Person/Being/Sub-Logoi would explain to me the differences between those two words/phrases. It's one of things with which I "struggle" for long time due to "lost in translation", inevitable effect.]
I'm asking about it, because if your experiences would be mine, I think I would lost my "local Self" in one-pointendess of searches of my true, not of this density, Self. At least I think at this time I would very likely do so.
(07-04-2014, 08:44 AM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: I've never understood precisely why it happened, but upon asking a very good channel about what happened, I received the reply:
"We are not usually of the disposition to speak to that which has not been spoken, yet, clearly in this instance we can suggest that this was an indicator, an initiatory experience that will find further repetition and permutation within the life pattern in the days to come."
I am wondering how did You get to trust this source/channel. How do You determine it was authentic?
This is one of greatest disadvantages of "mind path". I cannot accept any other channels. I've questioned Ra's Words for many years with my mind. So hard, so harshly, so cruel sometimes - I even ridicule myself The Law of One. But every time when emotions dropped or "blockages" of the mind (arguing to Self: "no, because no"'/"rejection a priori") fell, I was not able to undermine/discredit/impair Ra's teachings/learning. When being truly honest with Self, with "quality of the mind approach", You simply cannot dismiss/reject this Wisdom. This is of course only my opinion.
Edit: Any other channels (I've met) fall before my mind. That's my source of "unacceptability".
(07-04-2014, 11:51 AM)BrownEye Wrote: (...)
I assume it is the brow chakra activation. I still deal with throat chakra activation which has me dealing with "blue" frequencies mostly visual, sometimes audio as a musical sound inside of the head.
My experience involves reception of technical information, while yours may be more connected to "seeing" in multiple frequencies and dimensions.
(...)
I get the idea that you are partially functioning as a monitoring device, and the issues with signal integration are causing the noise and static.
(...)
Again, signal integration.
Hello BrownEye,
As I think your entire post will be of Aid to YourOtherSelf, for me it is very interesting to read/met Words/Being with such technical understanding/perceiving of this Wisdom. It's very close to me, even though I'm far from being able to experience something similar myself.
What really "opens mind" to all new level of thinking/understanding is that Ra gave me/us an access to Soul/Spirit/Non-material part of Self/Higher-Self/Creator with the Mind. The greatest obstacle/barrier to our True Self in this reality/density/realm of existence.
(07-04-2014, 01:48 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: I hold no expectations. =P
I'd prefer to say I'm looking for "methods of expressing myself given the current limitations this medium provides".
You're assisting me more than you think. Just simply discussing these events/concepts with another helps.
That is what I hoped will be of Aid to You.
It is same for me, for my understanding. Lately I had another "rejection attempt" but this time it was more inside me than on level of actual actions - I did not stopped reading The Law of One and trying to better understand it. This time "rejection" just slided on the surface of my Certainty. Deep inside my Self I Know.
I cannot explain it to anyone, I know no Words which would be able to express this certainty. I do not know how to share this with my Closest. I don't know how to explain. It just transcends words.
(07-04-2014, 01:48 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: Perhaps you will if that is your desire.
I do not think currently if it would be such a good idea. I think it's very likely that if I were to experience such profound perception, I would had my very, very long searched Mind certainty. Now I'm somewhat afraid that if that would happened, my Mind would simply "left" this reality/density. He would hold this experience/perception very dearly and it would do everything (literally - that means one-pointedness) do repeat this experience/perception. And if possible, to maintain it as long as possible. To "get there"" (this is an example of very simply, mind-based understanding/imagination).
(07-04-2014, 01:48 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: Please do remember the brunt of these events happened for years ago and I'm thankful for having gone through them. Everyone has their own path and my self is fulfilled these days.
I see that You reacted very differently from my most probable reaction.
Therefore I would like to as if You are a Spiritual Person/Being/Entity/sub-Logoi? I think that You were able to assimilate/accept this experience/perception on many more levels that mind offers.
When I asked You how your every day life looks like, I was asking in fact about your perception of everything/everyone in face of your experiences. Are Other'Selves the same as They were before your Activation? Or maybe your are perceiving Other Peoples very differently? I wonder what do You think of Them/How do You perceive Them when You are communicating/speaking with Them? Are You able to "receive" more that is said and shown with body/material vehicle language?
(07-04-2014, 01:48 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: I spent the following week in a mental health ward after being released (on my 30th birthday) I didn't go back to work and needed time to "heal". I'm embarrassed in some ways to confront them about everything.
I understand and can truly relate to that.
(07-04-2014, 01:48 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: It wasn't like sitting and watching a movie. More of an instantaneous flooding of past experiences, good and bad.
Those you've loved. Those you thought you were loving but were in fact hurting or even holding them back.
Understanding even if you could go back in time and make different choices you wouldn't because every single event shaped you into who you've become
I don't know how deep have You penetrated Ra's Teaching/Learning but for me, as I understand it, it is an example of experience of time/space.
It is one of the most astonishing concepts in The Law of One for me personally. Instead of quoting I prefer to express my own understanding of this concept.
We are all living/existing in the "illusion".
Pleas bear in minds that this is just a word Ra have to used to somehow "label" his understanding of our "conditions of existence/beingness". Word "illusion" is "for Us", for our level of understanding. This is what/how We are able to comprehend this concept. Please keep it in mind regarding EVERY word which starts to give You an understanding. Please try to see its conventionality
"Illusion" consists of space/time and time/space.
space/time is were our current consciousness/awareness resides. [I really would be very grateful for an explanation] This is part of the "Illusion" where we are experiencing our physical bodies/vehicles and where we consciously experiencing our Self and Other-Selves. Not to mention the Entire Creation - of course as far as we can with our five senses based strictly on this "Illusion". We are developing understanding of consciousness [Due to lack of precise understanding I'm not sure If I'm explaining this correctly] limited with physical vehicles. Also it is a Great Lesson/Catalyst to experience Other Consciousness in same limitations. This "limitations/physical vehicles" extremely deforming/distorting the "image" of Self to Other-Self. I think it is quite bizarre lesson of accepting consciousness in very obscure form, since our true nature is non-material.
time/space is where other half of Self resides. This is extremely important to understand in my opinion. That we have counscious access only to "half of Self". Of course this is not literally "half" as We cannot be divided like matter we are experiencing in this reality/density. Still what is available to Us is only incomplete aspect of Whole - almost like a Self-Puzzle. We have only one piece of puzzle we have never seen. We have to find and recognize Part of Self that is missing to our current perception. But before We will have any chances to do that, first we have to see clearly Part of Self that is consciously available to Us (space/time part of Self).
Returning to time/space itself. Like in space/time we all share same time and what differs for all of Us is space, in time/space it is space we all share, wile each of Us have/experiencing unique time. Ra Teaches/Learns that [Please bear in minds that those are only labels for necessity of our comprehension ability] this part of "Illusion" resides in velocity/vibration higher than speed of light (that is a barrier of "time" [which is part of this "Illusion"] as I understand it).
All "magical work" or simply "magic" is done in time/space. RA said that fifth density Entity/Being which is of Serve to Self polarization has great opportunity of gaining Wisdom/Understanding of this part of "Illusion", as he has counscious access to it. I think it may be compared to our access to matter, but I'm not sure of it.
In time/space all influences/interactions of Spirit/Non-Material part of Self takes place. Our current access to this part of "Illusion" is called by Us a subconscious (label reflecting level of understanding of this part of "Illusion" on our Planet).
I believe that all "positive thinking" and all "passionate prayers" are - when cumulated - executed/acted upon in time/space.
I hope that words/labels I used to express my understanding will not diminish this Wisdom/Understanding to anyone. This is so important to me, because understanding it will greatly help/aid Us in understanding Self.
In fourth book Ra explained that this division is caused due to the veil experiment executed by "latter" sub-Logoi. In this labeling/division we are sub-sub Logoi - Logoi creates galaxy and Stars - sub-Logoi. Sub-Logoi (Stars) creates planetary/spheres systems with sub-sub-Logoi - Beings/Entities like Us. In this point of view Ra is also sub-sub-Logoi, as we still will be in sixth density. I think that after seventh density, when we will leave this octave (maybe) We become sub-Logoi.
Please note that I’ve used word/label “octave”. Yet, I cannot describe what it is. All I can say is that its portion of Creation which consists of seven densities. I do not understand what is exactly labeled/named by those words, but as far as I can, I was able to get general/out-of-third-density picture of it.
Veil is in my understanding basic/fundamental/main/master reason for third density being "density of Sorrow".
(07-04-2014, 01:48 AM)YourOtherSelf Wrote: And I exercise caution when viewing other self's in such a manner that my projections may influence them.
Please do not underestimate Other-Selves. You will not hurt Them with your activation/growth/evolution of Self. I think it is more likely that You will wake up many Beings/Entities/sub-sub-Logoi form Their “third-density dream”.
All I have best in me for all of You my Dear Other-Selves
RE: Activation - YourOtherSelf - 07-04-2014
Quote:It is possible to be a subincarnate, and see your true form as an energetic overlay. Subincarnate concept can be imagined as your actual incarnation is another physical body temporarily in stasis. For some that means another body on a craft orbiting this planet.
For me it means that I am awake in another frequency, and I am aware of this other "self", sometimes "seeing" through its eyes.
This resonates with me in a couple ways. I often take for granted that others experience consciousness in the same way as myself.
Now a days I'm leaning towards some people are in actuality "operating" more like an NPC does (generally) in video games.
I'm curious how you experience time these days.
I'll be the "O" in this example below
It used to feel like
0------------------------>
Starting in the begining and progressing forwards in linear fashion.
But now
<------------------0------------------->
Makes more sense and feels more natural. Does that make any sense in relation to the text quoted?
RE: Activation - YourOtherSelf - 07-05-2014
Quote:Any way You are able to describe
"communication" You are refering to will be of aid for my understanding.
I'll give a hypothetical example of the mechanics behind the "how".
I'm sitting in traffic, listening to my favorite radio station while on my way home from work. I can't seem to decide if I should cook dinner at home or go out and eat.
I'll liken my choice unto two diverging paths, one going left, the other right. As I'm pondering over my future path choice, the traffic light ahead of me turns red.
My car radio shuts off out of the blue. I begin to feel very *frustrated*. As I reach to turn the radio back on I hear some one yell "Hey! Pay attention!" It catches my attention and look over.
A van (with a logo reading indigo birthright Inc. on the side) is almost hit by a car attempting to back out of a space.
As I'm watching the driver throw his arms up in *frustration*, a motor cycle pulls up with two occupants and block my view of the van. I can feel the light turning green ahead of me.
Just as I'm about look away my awareness focuses in on the space between the people on the bike. The words "go right" can be seen on logo now as the "indi" and the "birth" are covered up from my perspective between the two on the bike.
Does that provide a better understanding as to how communications happen?
Often times the message is layered in symbolic content and the polar opposite "answer" will express itself (not so much anymore) in some manner.
Quote:I would like to add that feeling of being "scary" is not what (as I understand it) positive contacts should looks like.
If I had some form of understanding prior to these events things wouldn't have been as scary. If this happened AFTER reading the Ra material, the work of Carl Jung, Alan Watts, etc it wouldn't have been as "scary" because I would have a reference point for understanding.
My wish is that somehow others who may go through similar events one day will be drawn towards my "words" prior to certain events and will be aided.
Initially it was a very positive experience.. but I seemed to attract the exact opposite somewhat simultaneously.
Prior to this I had read lots of religious/spiritual texts, but never called myself religious. I didn't go to church, was never baptized or anything.
I do remember being in 5th grade and thinking parts of the Bible sounded more like a more advanced species being mistaken as Gods and this was before the internet and History channels crazy haired alien guy. =P
Quote:The static you hear makes me think you are not integrating properly, and might be able to find a good QHHT practitioner to aid with that.
Let me rephrase or make something (I may not have made clear) clear. (^_-)
The static sounds and electric shock only happened the one time after events mentioned above. Almost like a download/upload of something?
Could you make the point you were trying to make again with perhaps that added information?
Quote:I get the idea that you are partially functioning as a monitoring device, and the issues with signal integration are causing the noise and static.
This resonates very heavy expect the bolded part feels distorted but not fully, still being relevant.