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    05-15-2014, 09:50 PM (This post was last modified: 05-15-2014, 09:56 PM by anagogy.)
    (05-13-2014, 12:15 AM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: Ra used the term "ectoplasm" to describe the green-ray body, which I believe it would be improper to compare this to the 4th density body. Ra speaks of the different "ray bodies" as bodies available to us within this 3rd density incarnation, and of 3rd density entities exploring these bodies.

    I have a different perspective on this (the bodies). It's important to make a distinction between a "subtle body" and a "physical body". When Ra discussed the bodies (47.8), it is my opinion they were discussing the physical manifestations of those rays.

    I arrive at that conclusion partly because the first three bodies described are obviously physical bodies, and Ra makes no mention of the rest being time/space or non physical bodies. However, in various random places, Ra has made it clear there are also time/space equivalents of the color ray bodies. Also, the "ectoplasm" manifestation is just how the matter would appear to a 3rd density being, in my opinion, not necessarily how it would look to a 4th density being. It would probably look quite solid to a fourth density being, being on that native vibrational spectrum.

    Also, Ra has stated the fourth density body is "a lighter body packed more densely with life". And that fourth density is "not of heavy chemical vehicles for body complex activities". And well, it just feels intuitively like a perfect fit for the "ectoplasm" manifestation. Also, I've read some interesting abduction accounts where that particular observation has been made many times. Also, i've researched many hypnotic regression transcripts that have also lent credence to this idea. Not necessarily saying I'm right, just offering some food for thought, and some bits and pieces of the process by which I arrived at these conclusions.

    (05-13-2014, 12:15 AM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: Where on the other hand, Ra rather specifically says that higher density bodies are not activated for a typical 3rd density experience. The closest we have are the dual-activated individuals, with 3rd and 4th activation. But to say that the ray bodies are the same as the bodies we inhabit in each density would mean that Ra discusses 3rd density entities activating their higher density bodies within this lifetime, which they explicitly says does not happen (and if it did, dual activated entities would not be rare or unique, or really worth mentioning).

    True, the higher density bodies are not *physically* activated for a 3rd density being. However, there are subtle versions of these bodies which are less than physical which are always activated. "Each of these bodies has an effect upon your mind/body/spirit complex in your life beingness. The interrelationships, as we have said, are many and complex."

    The physical, or gross material expression of each density is the red ray subdensity of any given ray. Any vibration beyond that is less than physical (or perhaps "more" than physical haha). For example, the orange ray subdensity of orange ray is lower astral material. It is "physical" sort of, but not physical as we know it. The orange ray body Ra described was the red ray subdensity of orange ray, which is genetic material, or material capable of physically expressing the consciousness of orange ray.

    The yellow ray subdensity of yellow ray is middle astral material. It is "physical" but less physical than lower astral material. I mean physical in the sense that is still has a degree of tangible form. The red ray subdensity of yellow ray is the physical body Ra described which is the physical body complex capable of supporting self aware consciousness in red ray physical.

    Basically, what I've learned is that we exist in all the densities all the time, but we only explore physical incarnations in the levels we are consciously trying to balance. Also, while we have higher density portions of ourselves, they are undeveloped and for the most part only unconsciously utilized. Every density is a combination of all the rays. The distinction is only in how they they manifest together.

    I completely understand if this doesn't necessarily jive with your personal view of how the bodies and/or subtle bodies work. I don't have a ton of evidence to back all this up besides my own intuitive "psensory" observations of these fields. But again, I just offer it as intellectual mind candy to consider whether you find value in it, or not.

    It's a subject which interests me greatly.

    (05-13-2014, 12:15 AM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: I do remember Ra saying that dual activated individuals will have a thinner veil, but do they connect this to having an easier time remembering experience prior to this incarnation?

    Here is one section where they discuss it, there are others:

    "65.19 Questioner: [chuckles] Thank you. The forgetting process was puzzling me because you said that the fourth-density activated people who were here who had been harvestable did not have the same forgetting problem. Could you tell me why the Wanderer loses his memory?

    Ra: I am Ra. The reason is twofold. First, the genetic properties of the connection between the mind/body/spirit complex and the cellular structure of the body is different for third density than for third/fourth density.

    Secondly, the free will of third-density entities needs be preserved. Thus Wanderers volunteer for third-density genetic or DNA connections to the mind/body/spirit complex. The forgetting process can be penetrated to the extent of the Wanderer remembering what it is and why it is upon the planetary sphere. However, it would be an infringement if Wanderers penetrated the forgetting so far as to activate the more dense bodies and thus be able to live, shall we say, in a god-like manner. This would not be proper for those who have chosen to serve.

    The new fourth-density entities which are becoming able to demonstrate various newer abilities are doing so as a result of the present experience, not as a result of memory. There are always a few exceptions, and we ask your forgiveness for constant barrages of over-generalization."
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