05-13-2014, 12:15 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-13-2014, 12:23 AM by Bring4th_Austin.)
(05-02-2014, 09:38 PM)Parsons Wrote:Quote:Q'uo:I find the concept of inhabiting an electrical vehicle rather than a chemical vehicle to be fascinating and would like to hear everyone's thoughts on the matter 3 years later. Specifically, I am trying to picture how a dual activated 3D/4D vehicle would work and if it would be considered hybrid chemical/electrical.
However, if you consider that in third density you still retain the energy body that will carry you into fourth density, and that has carried you through your incarnation, then you can go further with your intellectual considerations. So please imagine yourself in your indigo-ray body, moving into incarnation in third density, aligning with the physical vehicle and connecting to it by means of the silver cord, so called. Then imagine that same body, at the end of the physical incarnation, releasing its hold upon the physical body that is no longer viable and moving into the process of graduation, first in the indigo-ray body, then in the violet-ray body. And once the steps of light have been walked and you have graduated into fourth density, [imagine] moving back into the indigo-ray body and then into physical incarnation of the electric type rather than the chemical type.
In the interest of free flowing discussion, I will ask that discussion of the Q'uo channelings being 'Carla's subconscious bullshit' (or whatever you want to call it) be tabled or moved to another thread.
What's unfortunate about this Q'uote is that it doesn't speak about the actual physical transition process, which is one aspect I am really curious about (since, if it happens, it would be rather obvious to everyone that there was some sort of major change going on).
But there is something about this quote that inspires another idea for the difference between a "chemical body" and an "electrical body."
As we are now, we have an electrical body. Electricity is how our body works. Our will is communicated to the chemicals of our physical body through electrical charges spawned by our thoughts. In reality, we should probably be identifying right now, as we are, much more with our electrical body than with our physical body. Even material reductionist believe it is electricity moving through our brains which gives rise to consciousness. In this view, the physical chemicals of our body are just clothing for our electrical "self."
This is something I've had more personal experience with since this thread started 3 years ago. Through dedicated meditation, I have began to really feel the electricity in my body. I don't necessarily mean like feeling an electrical charge, or really "feel" in any way which I can describe in words. It's more like an awareness of what is there. I am aware of the electricity in my body, the way it activates my physical body to move and interact with the physical worlds, and also how the electrical component of my body corresponds to my actual state of mind and thought processes.
However, as far as current science understands, this electricity is generated by ingested chemicals. And according to Ra, in 4D we still eat foodstuffs - there has to be a reason for that, and there has to be some sort of chemical process breaking down the foodstuffs into energy and electricity. This is what our 3D bodies do right now.
So I would think that the "chemical distillery" doesn't just go away in 4D. anagogy's description makes sense to me:
(05-02-2014, 11:17 PM)anagogy Wrote: So the space/time manifestation begins to be equal parts energy and matter in fourth density. In 5th density, the space/time physical manifestations becomes almost all energy. By 6th density, the physical manifestation, or space/time incarnate body just appears as pure light, pure energy.
Instead of shedding the chemical body completely, what if it still existed to some extent, to solidify our presence in space/time as we refine our bodies more and more, like anagogy said?
But the experience would likely be markedly different, where instead of identifying with our chemical bodies as we do now, we identify with the electrical body. This electrical body has a sort of "supremacy" over the chemical body anyways, according to the Ra material, as this is how physical distortions manifest as illness in the body - distortion of the electromagnetic fields. Ra's idea of healing relies on the fact that healing distortions of the electromagnetic field will manifest in the physical body (potentially even appearing miraculous), while simply healing the body without healing the distortions will allow the distortions to manifest again.
So what if our consciousness evolves in a way where we have more awareness and control over these electrical fields that are as much of a body as the chemical complex. And the greater awareness of these fields allows for much less identification with the physical chemical body given the supremacy of the electrical fields. Our current cultural perception is lacking this understanding/awareness of the electrical fields and thus we have an over-identification with the physical body and under-identification with the electrical.
This also places the fundamental heart of this evolution on the mind rather than the body. We are evolving in general awareness, awareness of what our body is and how it relates to our "self," and ultimately a new level of awareness within the universe. In turn, our body itself evolves - to support this new awareness. Bodies compatible with 4D fields, but led there by minds seeking 4D awareness.
(05-02-2014, 11:17 PM)anagogy Wrote: I can tell you that if you were to physically see 4th density matter, whether it be during an STS abduction experience, contact with positive 4th density ET's, or perhaps some kind of ethereal materialization, that from your 3rd density physical point of view it would appear very "casper the ghost-ish" (for lack of better description). It would appear very translucent, sort of "plasma-eey-ish". Ra uses the word "ectoplasm" to describe the appearance of this body.
Ra used the term "ectoplasm" to describe the green-ray body, which I believe it would be improper to compare this to the 4th density body. Ra speaks of the different "ray bodies" as bodies available to us within this 3rd density incarnation, and of 3rd density entities exploring these bodies.
Where on the other hand, Ra rather specifically says that higher density bodies are not activated for a typical 3rd density experience. The closest we have are the dual-activated individuals, with 3rd and 4th activation. But to say that the ray bodies are the same as the bodies we inhabit in each density would mean that Ra discusses 3rd density entities activating their higher density bodies within this lifetime, which they explicitly says does not happen (and if it did, dual activated entities would not be rare or unique, or really worth mentioning).
Quote:And as Ra has told us, they have a much easier time remembering life before physical life. In general, they have a plethora of psychic experiences without any training or effort. They sense subtle energies easily.
I do remember Ra saying that dual activated individuals will have a thinner veil, but do they connect this to having an easier time remembering experience prior to this incarnation?
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