Biased view of STS...and INFINITY

[Monica]

How then could this be judged to be “bad” or “evil”? It cannot while holding the LOO and being free of all confusion.

Do you think that assessing something as being energetically STS or STO is the same as judging? Do you see any value in making any assessments, or do you see all assessments as judgment?

Do you think that anyone (who is incarnate in 3D) is truly free of all confusion?

Therefore, if someone thinks STS as an orientation in and of itself is bad/evil or has pre-determined associations and generalizations about that, then it is WITHIN THEM and being projected outward. More simply put: they are just confused.

Do you think this includes Ra?

Certainly there can be actions, behaviors, choices that would appear “evil/bad” that an entity on STS path can make, but it has to do with those specifics and the individual themselves, not the orientation or path itself. All of the same “evil/bad” behaviors or choices are just as possible with STO orientated entities.

Forgive me if I'm not fully understanding you...but can you please clarify? Are you saying that you disagree with Ra's assertion that we must choose a polarity while in 3D? Or is it just that you believe yourself to be above that? If the latter, do you disagree that choosing a polarity is necessary for 3D entities to be harvestable? Are you disagreeing with the very premise of the Law of One as explained by Ra/Q'uo? Or am I misunderstanding you here?

“Bad/Evil” appearances are related to dysfunctional thought forms, programming of lower natures, judgment and self importance/pride issues…NOT related to the entity itself! It’s like seeing the difference being a child’s “bad” behavior and seeing them as a “bad” child.

I agree with you here, for the most part, as regards most entities, who are of mixed polarity. I also agree that outward behavior is not always indicative of polarity, ie. one may appear loving on the surface but may have selfish motivations, or be seemingly evil on the surface but actually be very confused or even good-intentioned in terms of actual motivations. Both of these examples are indicators of mixed-polarity.

Are you saying that there is no true STO or STS polarity at all? That we are all basically the same, a mixture of various motivations and behaviors? Again, I ask if you are disagreeing with the very premise of 3D being The Choice.

In the one/highest reality there are no “bad guys”, there is no “evil entity”, there is only Creator expressing in individuated Co-creators. But, in confusion, forgetting and the illusion of separation, entities do perceive there to be bad guys and evil. They do this by utilizing a marvelous faculty called judgment. If you have judgment within, it’s going to color/filter what you perceive without. But, it’s not out there…it’s in you...it’s not ultimately real…it’s your perception in duality.

By saying it's not real, not out there but 'in you' isn't that also duality? To say something is 'not' such-and-such implies duality...isn't that a judgment in itself? Do you think that if something is in you it cannot also be 'out there?'

I submit that it is both. We are holographic and mirror to one another.

Again, please correct me if I'm misunderstanding you, but you seem to be implying that any sort of discerning of 'otherness' or rejecting of any qualities is not cool. Do you see any value in assessing qualities and choosing to not resonate with those particular qualities? For example, is Q'uo being 'judgmental' or 'confused' when they say "The STS path is a bloody path...We are not of those...We are of the radiant path" (paraphrased) ...? Is this confusion? Bias? Judgment?

This is exactly what is so darn wonderful and refreshing about the LOO material…it is what is so freeing! It provides a way to let loose enormous joy and love…to radiated it unrestricted…for there is no need to withhold it from “anyone” or anywhere. You are free to love all unconditionally because you no longer feel any need to withhold love from those who don’t “deserve” it…the “evil ones”. Beyond this even, there actually aren’t even “evil/bad/negative” acts or behaviors, it’s just that 3rd D people choose to perceive them as such. It’s all a function of level of awareness and vibratory frequency.

I'm in total agreement that radiating joy/love to everyone is the thing to do...Ra/Q'uo have frequently reiterated that.

However, the idea of withholding love from one who is perceived as 'evil' is contrary to the teachings of the Law of One...it is in the cases of STS 'greeting' that it is perhaps most important to respond in love...Are you saying that it is a mistake to recognize the motivation/polarity of another entity who is seeking to influence you in some way?

I wish to ask if you journey through the gateway though, and to what density/world/dimensions, as some (just a little) of what you write seems still in confusion.

Can you please define 'through the gateway' ...? Thanks!

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Greetings in Love and Light oh Radiant Monica. I felt your actual energy radiance as I read many of your posts. You simply glow my love

Thanks!

I reply specifically to your responses only for a bit more “play”. Besides the different words used, I perceive no/little difference in what “we” both wrote / are saying. In short, yeppers! I agree with what you wrote completely - save the final part I interpret your responses as containing exactly the same awareness I was attempting to convey with my ‘words’. I totally accept that you may not see it that way. Perhaps others will get value from our exchange. I have intent only to clarify and ask a few “pardons”. I have no need for defense. Resistance is futile Nothing you respond to me with will ever alter my love for you.

OK.

How can there be “others” in “the highest reality” when “there is only One?”

In the very first session, Ra indicated that the Law of One is about the resolution of paradox.
The 'highest reality' by definition would be from the perspective of the One Infinite Creator.

Yes, that is precisely what I meant and intended to say by highest reality and the perspective from there. It was a rhetorical question, the answer being “There cannot.” and the intent of stating the obvious was for the readers of the thread’s mental bodies to “plug” back into this in order to overcome “confusion” when using the words “others” and “self”…if they so chose.
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Ra used the term 'other-self' to convey the concept of Oneness, and many of us use that term here, as a reminder to not see ourselves as separate from other-selves.

Monica, I would have to look “how far I’ve read…I think I’m in book III of IV or something. Most importantly, please pardon me: the first two sentences of mine were not meant to be connected. I “should” have begun a new paragraph between them. I was actually re-iterating what Law of One clearly states but in question form. My purpose was that I perceived many parts of confusion/discussion in the thread appeared to me to be based on losing sight of this intimate connection. I do not attribute the confusion to Law of One itself, but to the reader’s brain and corresponding thought forms.

The term 'service to others' does not imply serving others at the exclusion of serving self. Rather, it is a balance of both. Not a precise balance - there is some wiggle room there - but both are important.

I agree completely, this very point is made repeatedly in my post. The “term” does not imply it, but the reader’s mind may or may not. But, the term is an obvious distortion in English that is overcome with awareness of Oneness or addition of other words such as you did to clear it up. Confusion is the result of the lack of awareness in Oneness which would otherwise allow the mind to overcome the dualistic/separate nature of the word(s). Precisely why I suggested STA is more inclusive (imo) of what they mean when they say STO.

If you would extend/radiate unconditional love/light to others, would you not have to first extend it to yourself?

Why must it be first? If self = other self, then why would it matter which came first?

I will expand in reply not “for/to” you Monica, but perhaps for benefit of many potential readers. Re-read what I wrote precisely. It was a conditional statement containing “if”. Note I also qualified the frequency of love specifically as “unconditional”. Simply put: “If you would radiate to others, you necessarily must “have” something to radiate. You are absolutely correct that it does not matter which comes first. And also, I think we both agree it is more of a simultaneous and/or flowing both ways…balance. More “real 3rd D life” then: You can extend love to others. For many “people” they extend love only to “lovable” people based on certain criteria/judgments. “I love my husband vs. I hate my boss”. Or they love someone for a time until something happens and then they stop due to some perceived injustice or judgment about the “other”. IMO, their heart chakra is not yet fully cleared and activated. It’s a process. It’s growth towards unity. They also extend self love, sometimes they withhold love from themselves due to guilt, judgments, or in general due to their predicament of separateness within. “I love most of me…but not this part!”

But, people often progress/grow and as they remove restrictions/judgments on themselves two things happen. They “clean” and open their heart chakra more and begin to love themselves more. The second thing is now they are even more capable of extending love to others because they now won’t place those same restrictions/judgments on others. Do unto others sort of effect. Like if you can love yourself even with all your “stuff” and past, then why not be more accepting/loving of others? It happens as a natural consequence. Now it also happens in reverse: as you practice loving others with less judgment and restriction you begin to see that you can also lift the ones you’ve placed on yourself. “If I can extend more love to this guy, surely I can love me more!” Thus, as you open more fully/freely to love others, it naturally opens you up to more fully love yourself – and as you more fully/freely love yourself, it naturally opens you up to love others. It is a circle, spiral, or infinity sign. Love in motion. In practice it is simultaneous, multi-targeted and ebb/flow in a figure eight. All these words condensed then: One Loves One. How could it be otherwise? We just see it as self/others under the illusion of separation in 3rd D. I could have just as well said, “If we wish to radiate unconditional love/light to ourselves, must we not also radiate it to all ‘others’?” Let me just take back the word “first” and replace it with “also” and re-post both sentences

The point I was making in my sentence was that there are some incredible things that happen when the heart chakra is fully opened (when unconditional/unlimited love is reached/unrestricted). From there, then you have something so wonderful to radiate/extend or “serve” up to others…Unconditional love. This is an “order” I was implying, not an either/or as you suggested. Prior to that, you radiate only conditional love. (No judgment about it being “better” love, just a knowing of the general intent/purpose of STO entities) Necessarily then, it is limited and constricted in flow due to judgments held within/without. Also importantly, this unconditional love then opens the availability of the gateway to infinity and the miraculous experiences that follow which can incredibly empower a being to “serve” “others” in marvelous ways indeed!

My intent in making the point was in short to say, “Service to Self initially (in terms of working within, chakras, and of course with others, but primarily focusing on YOUR personal/spiritual growth) leads to empowered Service to Others”. I did not mean to split hairs or raise confusion about STO not including STS in balance, but instead to point out why they are both required in STO orientation and for those who’d gotten a bit confused to perhaps see how it’s more really what I called STA or Service to One. Oh my goodness I call ‘uncle’ already. I do hope this typing is of some value to someone…for me, I’m just now getting value of laughter at folly and futility getting too detailed in mental construct and language…but it’s kinda fun I guess. Certainly it’s also an opportunity for distraction from service as well as potential service…I guess depending upon how, where, and with what intent it’s done and how it is received or used by the recipient.

Can you radiate that which you have not awakened/ignited? How can you unconditionally love yourself if you yet hold judgments? If you find yourself in a polarized 3rd D world, programmed with judgment (which always separates), wouldn’t you need first to transcend and transmute that before offering service?

Respectfully, you seem to be caught up in a duality, seeing service as an 'either/or' proposition. To the STO oriented entity, service to other-selves is serving the ALL, which includes the self. There needn't be any conflict. There needn't be any hierarchial order to service, as in 'first' or 'second' but all is done with the intention to serve the whole. STO-oriented service is simultaneous. The STO orientation is that which seeks to serve, with no such distinctions drawn. Distinctions between self and other-self would seem, imo, to be arising from the percentage of self that is STS. For none are 100% one polarity.

Even more respectfully: Nope. I’m not caught in anything of the sort. Perhaps you read into my words things that were not there, or maybe they were just poorly written Maybe my above explanation has already clarified all that, and how I see service/love in unity. I do not see service as either/or. I implied no conflict…I did imply order (only in 3rd D) in trying to make a specific point. More generally of course I agree to the simultaneousness. I did not imply “hierarchy”, only natural progression. My last sentence was very poorly written in not conveying my meaning: “wouldn’t you need first to transcend and transmute that before offering service?” Pardon me again, restated: “Wouldn’t you prefer to transcend judgments and gain unconditional love radiance prior to heavily focusing your time and energy on assisting and supporting “others” with personal growth?” The implication being that if you don’t, then simply be aware that your radiance of love is conditional/limited, and any “mental” teachings/services are confused. Your judgments and separation will be reflected from inside out to that “other” you so desire to “serve”…and yes, that’s still perfect service and I don’t judge it. I am also aware certain souls have a purpose and desire to go beyond that. What you radiate out will always be a reflection of what is within…”clean-up and exalt” what is within and you have a “cleaner” and higher vibratory radiation without. To whatever degree and timing you do this is absolutely perfect.

Thank you for the opportunity to respond Monica…and your gentle nature is a blessing to All…bless you and bless All - AwakenedOneness

Thank you for the clarification!

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When One accesses the gateway to infinity and goes to higher levels of awareness in the 6th D and 7th D there is no need or utility (or ability) to contain that awareness gain in the mental body or words…except as it may somehow be of help in serving/supporting others. I currently believe the translated descriptions and concepts of awareness are pure folly, and I can be of more service to others by giving tips, guidance, encouragement, faith, hope, trust, etc. Part of my divine mission and service is to help “more fully” awaken wanderers, help them prepare for the gateway by achieving the pre-requisite of Self Mastery, and support them in accessing the gateway if they haven’t…not tell them what it’s like on the other side. In short, you ain’t never gonna “figure it out” in your “brain”, you just gotta go there yourself and get it in awareness!

When you say you have accessed 6D and 7D, are you referring to the same definition of 'density' as described by Ra?

I ask this because I've seen others (usually channels) use similar terminology but in those cases they were actually describing something different.

Are you saying that it's an important function of Wanderers to 'awaken' and 'access the gateway?' (I won't ask what you mean by that, or maybe I already did ask it, sorry! But you just said you don't want to tell us what's on the other side, so I won't ask again.) What I'm asking here is, are you in disagreement with what the Law of One states, regarding the mission of Wanderers?

I hope you don't mind all the questions...just trying to understand your comments.