Quote:well, this at least clarifies some of the terminology used for me. I was undecided as to whether the astral referred to inner planes 3d, or if it was a different density.
I think when the term 'astral' is used that it refers to the distorted 3rd density time/space of our sphere.
It may be possible to work up into 4th density time/space through the astral if one can disable the 'booby traps', but I've always seen it as the time/space analogue of the 3d octave.
Later in the session Hatonn says this.
Quote:the octave directly above you is the fourth and is called by the one whom you call Paul, the apostle, the spiritual kingdom